Goku vs Princess (Adversary)

[Eden_Warlock99]

I think I'll make it ToP Goku, so that he doesn't start in UI but can go into it if he's pushed to his limits.

 

[Apeironaxim]

I imagine that imagining her dead is slightly easier for Goku, since a lot of the time villains got finished off by ki blasts, which vaporize them, rather than just the knife the Hero had

 

[Qawsedf234]

this depends on how you wanna argue it, since Goku is technically fighting the Adversary. So if a true self yoinks away an avatar, and that avatar is the explicit target of the match, and it never returns, does that count as BFR of the opponent?

Afaik with other avatars, the master wouldn't directly interact with them unless something is triggered. Its "X vs Y" and not "X vs Y and Y's boss".

 

[Jaften]

I imagine that imagining her dead is slightly easier for Goku, since a lot of the time villains got finished off by ki blasts, which vaporize them, rather than just the knife the Hero had

Unlikely to ever be a oneshot in character. He isn't an assassin and he's going in expecting a serious fight because he's been told:

You're here to slay her. If you don't, it will be the end of the world.

And why would he be there to slay her if she wasn't strong enough to warrant his power? Whether or not he can sense the Princess's energy, she oozes confidence and strength in Adversary form, so he's gonna assume she's hiding her real power level and that she's strong enough to combat against him (which will become true). And even if he vaporizes her with one shot, he's gonna be confused and doubt whether she's actually dead ("it can't have been that easy, right?") or if she's playing some kind of trick to catch him off guard (which will become the case). So this fight is gonna escalate.

 

[Livinmeme]

I don't think Goku is really the type of person to let paranoia cloud his judgment tho

That was different. Goku saw his best friend killed by frieza, and he thought that Krillin was dead for good (because no more dragon balls)

 

[Jaften]

So the way I see this going is Goku being told he needs to kill this princess person because she'll destroy the world, and thinking "huh, she must be pretty strong then" and getting kinda excited about it.

Or, Goku asks the Narrator "is she strong?" And the Narrator tells him "no she's just an ordinary princess" and he's confused as to why she's a threat and disappointed that he's not gonna get a good fight, and assumes that "there must be something more about her that the Narrator isn't aware of." And when he sees the Princess in Adversary form, he'll assume she's hidden her strength from even the seemingly well-informed Narrator or she has some kind of dangerous trick up her sleeves he needs to be cautious of.

Either one opens the way for the Adversary to get much more dangerous very quickly. This starts a chain reaction that gradually escalates the power level of the confrontation until Goku is forced to rely on Ultra Instinct [Omen], where he actually starts to have a chance of pulling out a victory.

 

[Livinmeme]

Unironically Yamcha might have a better chance than Goku

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

So the way I see this going is Goku being told he needs to kill this princess person because she'll destroy the world, and thinking "huh, she must be pretty strong then" and getting kinda excited about it.

Or, Goku asks the Narrator "is she strong?" And the Narrator tells him "no she's just an ordinary princess" and he's confused as to why she's a threat and disappointed that he's not gonna get a good fight, and assumes that "there must be something more about her that the Narrator isn't aware of." And when he sees the Princess in Adversary form, he'll assume she's hidden her strength from even the seemingly well-informed Narrator or she has some kind of dangerous trick up her sleeves he needs to be cautious of.

Either one opens the way for the Adversary to get much more dangerous very quickly.

Dunno if Narrator can help at all anyways since he's well aware only the TLQ can truly defeat the Princess (shifting mound).

 

[Jaften]

I never said the Narrator would help, just that he's actually more a part of the Construct than tied to LQ, so it makes sense if he's present (at least enough to give Goku the info he needs at the beginning)

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

bump

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

bump

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Bump

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Bump

 

[Jaften]

I think you might need to make some changes to the prompt to get the ball rolling again, because right now the best we seem to have is "UI Goku has a chance of winning maybe"

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

I think you might need to make some changes to the prompt to get the ball rolling again, because right now the best we seem to have is "UI Goku has a chance of winning maybe"

You got an idea? Removing UI sorta makes it a stomp for the Princess, wouldn't it?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Adding Vegeta maybe?

 

[Jaften]

Adding Vegeta maybe?

No that probably makes it worse because now the Princess is building off of TWO people's perceptions.