Goku vs Princess (Adversary) (0-1-0)

[Adem_Warlock69]

"No, Goku! But she's very dangerous. Whatever you do, you can't doubt yourself."

The Adversary (Fierce Vessel) is used
Saiyan Saga Goku is used
Speed is equal
Battle takes in the Construct
(Goku on a path in the woods and the Princess in the cabin)
Goku is given surface knowledge on the Princess

Princess Princess: 1 (Qawsedf234)

Son Goku: 0

Incon: 0​

 

[koopa3144]

So, does Goku have knowledge of the Princesses Subjective Reality? Cause if not He can sense her Ki and tell she's massively weaker than him which will weaken her a lot.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

So, does Goku have knowledge of the Princesses Subjective Reality? Cause if not He can sense her Ki and tell she's massively weaker than him which will weaken her a lot.

Pretty sure Goku sensing the Princess would count as him perceiving her in someway, so it'd also be based on what he'd expect to sense from the Adversary, who from his knowledge, is a threat to the world and will end it if she escapes, and like, supressing and lowering your ki is something Goku knows is possible.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

peak

 

[Ednaxel2]

He might be Gokuversal, but is he Princessversal?

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

"Hey Princess! I heard you were pretty strong!"

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I went to look at the princess's profile and it's a very large profile, if i played for about 30 minutes of reading, i jumped straight to the main tier and hax

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

I went to look at the princess's profile and it's a very large profile, if i played for about 30 minutes of reading, i jumped straight to the main tier and hax

Yeah, she's like 13 characters in one profile lol. Her base form and the Adversary key are the only ones that are important here tho

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Yeah, she's like 13 characters in one profile lol. Her base form and the Adversary key are the only ones that are important here tho

I understand

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

I guess this match is gonna test the waters to see how viable the princesses are to argue against stronger opponents via their SR since it's technically up to low 1-C smurf hax but it all depends on opponents perception.

 

[koopa3144]

Goku is probably gonna see The Adversary as stronger than his base due to being given knowledge of Princesses being a threat to the world. This likely comes down to whether Goku would think Kaio-ken x4 would be enough to take out the The Adversary or not.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

For the record, this version of the Princess shares a similar passion for combat as Goku, viewing it as a means to surpass her limits and craving it above all else.
The first thing she'd say upon hearing Goku would be "Is that another challenger? Finally. It's been ages since I've had a good fight."
Additionally, she'd only start the fight once Goku is ready, and even if he’s downed, she’ll patiently wait for him to get back up and attack her before continuing the fight.
So, I could see Goku focusing more on enjoying the fight rather than actually trying to kill the Princess outright.

 

[koopa3144]

For the record, this version of the Princess shares a similar passion for combat as Goku, viewing it as a means to surpass her limits and craving it above all else.
The first thing she'd say upon hearing Goku would be "Is that another challenger? Finally. It's been ages since I've had a good fight."
Additionally, she'd only start the fight once Goku is ready, and even if he’s downed, she’ll patiently wait for him to get back up and attack her before continuing the fight.
So, I could see Goku focusing more on enjoying the fight rather than actually trying to kill the Princess outright.

Even if Goku enjoys fighting her, Goku still knows the Princess is a threat to the world. He'll probably K.O her instead of outright killing her in hopes they could fight again..

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Anyway, since this is her Fierce Vessel version, the Adversary would also start with a somewhat fast-acting Regeneration (Low-Mid) and Infinite stamina,
I can put her in her normal Adversary form if those two put the fight too much in her favor, where she'd have to make Goku think she can't die for her to attain them

 

[Qawsedf234]

If we're going by the OP the fight is already over

Her nature is to become what others perceive her to be. If you actually knew what she was, if you knew her capabilities, a single intrusive thought could have instantly ended the entire world.

What do you mean a single intrusive thought could have instantly ended the world?

It's simple, really: 'She can become whatever people perceive her to be? That's easy! I'll just will her into something really small! But wait, what if I accidentally will her into something that ends the world. Oh no, what if just thinking that—

But you wouldn't have finished your hypothetical thought, because she would have already destroyed the world.

Luckily for you, as you are now, you won't be able to will her into anything. You don't work the way a living being does. Not anymore.

King Kai saying that she can destroy the universe would likely put Goku on a downward spiral of stealth amping the Princess with move sets and abilities that he wouldn't be able to deal with. Like how the LQ accidently gave her immortality by just thinking she can't die once.

? Cause if not He can sense her Ki and tell she's massively weaker than him which will weaken her a lot.

I don't really agree, when Goku couldn't sense the Androids he was shocked but didn't think they weren't a threat because he was warned by Trunks. Combined with like, the SBA on their mind sets

Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences. The characters will assume their opponents have not been forced into battle. They are assumed to have decided from free will to fight and are not excused by a just cause, difficult times or otherwise exonerating circumstances. Furthermore, the situation is assumed one where the opponents are not protected by social norms or consequences, such as being a civilian protected by law.

I don't think Goku would in-character underestimate her like that.

Like even thinking "Can she fly as well?" would give her the ability to fly, since its a single thought. He would have to consistently view her as only weak and beneath him with no contradicting ideas against it, or kill her fast enough that those thoughts wouldn't happen. Personally speaking while that can happen, especially with a blitz or something like that, I think Goku has more going against him than for him. Since viewing her as a dangerous enemy will only make raise her strength and at a certain point the fight becomes unwinnable to Goku.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

I don't think Goku is really the type of person to let paranoia cloud his judgment tho