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Lets all forget that they can block, deflect, withstand energy blast capable of destroying celestial bodies. Let's all forget that the solar kamehameha has FORCE enoght to blow away the whole solar system and that attack would barely work on sjj3. Let's forget that goku almost destroyed the universe with the shockwaves of his punches, let's all forget goes beerus found that nullifying gokus attack is harder than nullifying a universe destroying ball. Let's all forget goku destroying a ball that was going to destroy the universe with just one punch.
With that logic, saint seiya is only rock level, naruto is only spoon level, and omni man is only fork level
 
Plus characters like Nappa were only slightly hurt by energy blasts from people like Piccolo, who could destroy the moon with ease, whereas Goku could easily hurt Nappa with punches and kicks.

Meanwhile in the Namek saga, Vegeta's blasts did nothing to Recoome, whilst Goku's fist did.
 
debatable, he was almost into an energy attack

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The breaking of the pod, not the breaking of Raditz.
 
Regardless this debate over Dragonball's physicals is off topic. That needs to be discussed (with little chance of success) in a revision thread.
 
Also reminder that this is a INDEX wiki, not a debate wiki, debating is just a fun game conpared to the true purpose, which is building the profile of characters.

So no, you want to use evidence, change what is indexed.
 
Isn't Goku just >>>> Baseline 5-B? We don't know an exact number, right?

Because if that's the case, then even with Kaioken, shouldn't Omni-man be able to still have AP advantage? I feel like I'm missing something here, are we supposed to divide Omni-man's feat by 1/3 due to it taking 3 guys to do it?

Regardless, if Omni-Man is >600zt, then Goku with kaioken would be able to hold himself, and eventually beat him via speed and skill difference.

Voting Goku if not a stomp.
 
With energy attacks, not punches
Cell's Solar Kamehameha is backed up so many times to destroy the solar system, First Form Frieza is the reason why Planet Vegeta got destroyed. Saiyan Saga Vegeta was capable of reducing the planet to ashes
 
Isn't Goku just >>>> Baseline 5-B? We don't know an exact number, right?

Because if that's the case, then even with Kaioken, shouldn't Omni-man be able to still have AP advantage? I feel like I'm missing something here, are we supposed to divide Omni-man's feat by 1/3 due to it taking 3 guys to do it?

Regardless, if Omni-Man is >600zt, then Goku with kaioken would be able to hold himself, and eventually beat him via speed and skill difference.

Voting Goku if not a stomp.
Goku is baseline in kaioken x3.
He gets a 4x boost between his kaiokenx4 self and his base self in Ginyu.
He can go kaioken x10 against Ginyu.
Ultimately ends up around 3 yottatons based on the accepted multipliers being used for speed at the moment.
 
Wouldn't 3 YT makes him Large planet level or smth? It doesn't seem to be on the profile.

Regardless, if thats the case, if he goes kaioken 10x, he should be able to fodderize.

This seems to be a stomp. We should probably restrict Kaioken.
 
Wouldn't 3 YT makes him Large planet level or smth? It doesn't seem to be on the profile.

Regardless, if thats the case, if he goes kaioken 10x, he should be able to fodderize.

This seems to be a stomp. We should probably restrict Kaioken.
Probably large planet in kx10. Maybe nobody's brought it up yet, because those speed multipliers apply to strength, given there all derived from kaioken scaling.
 
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