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Goku vs Adam (Grace)

Yomi_Schwarz said:
Hmm Goku does have the options to end this fight early. This really all boils down to mindset.

At that point idk if this Goku would be the type to capitalize on his AP advantage or not since I vaguely remember Z.
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He wouldn't immediately kick adams ass but he'd go in trying to defeat him even though he's much stronger. Although if adam starts copying his techniques he'll realize he's dangerous and probably try to off him quickly and he'd also refrain from using powerful techniques as well.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
Um, Goku has a huge AP advantage and can easily win but adam can copy all his techniques and can dodge stuff and has high durability, argument for goku is that goku doesn't need to use any techniques to beat adam while adam needs goku's techniques to win.
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Adam doesn't have the dura advantage but everything else that you said is right
 
Yomi_Schwarz said:
Hmm Goku does have the options to end this fight early. This really all boils down to mindset.

At that point idk if this Goku would be the type to capitalize on his AP advantage or not since I vaguely remember Z.
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In frieza saga Goku did ended fights relatively quickly especially the one's against ginyu force
 
Also I'm pretty sure Adam's limit is copying martial arts moves (with the same power).

Anything Ki based is off the table as far as I can remember.
 
I dont know why people.keep mentioning the eyes, when speed is equalized and goku has the AP advantage without kaoiken.
So yes I vote goku
 
People Voting Adam I dont think stands are clear at all Goku is just far stronger even without kaio ken he doesnt even need to use techniques to beat Adam
 
I don't think you guys understand lmao. Adamas Zeus HAD THE AP AND DURA ADVANTAGE ON ADAM . But nonetheless, the only reason he won was because blood landed on Adam's eye. How does Goku get around the eyes that let Adam dodge and counter attacks that are faster than him? He countered an, though debatable, infinite speed punch despite being hit by 2 non-infinite speed punches.
 
Axxtentacle said:
I don't think you guys understand lmao. Adamas Zeus HAD THE AP AND DURA ADVANTAGE ON ADAM . But nonetheless, the only reason he won was because blood landed on Adam's eye. How does Goku get around the eyes that let Adam dodge and counter attacks that are faster than him? He countered an, though debatable, infinite speed punch despite being hit by 2 non-infinite speed punches.
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Goku's AP advantage is huge, easily enough to one shot without kaioken. You yourself said that adam was hit by 2 non infinite speed punches. So either he gets hit and gg or he keeps using his eyes to copy and dodge which is his win condition but his weakness is overusing his eyes so if goku refrains from using techniques after observing adams ability then adam has no chance of winning.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
Goku's AP advantage is huge, easily enough to one shot without kaioken. You yourself said that adam was hit by 2 non infinite speed punches. So either he gets hit and gg or he keeps using his eyes to copy and dodge which is his win condition but his weakness is overusing his eyes so if goku refrains from using techniques after observing adams ability then adam has no chance of winning.
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Yeah, but said overuse requires constant strain from something he shouldn't be able to dodge. If Goku can't actually get close to killing him like that and then constantly pressure him making him use it nonstop then it won't strain him out.

Also, he can just copy basic punches too... lmao
 
Axxtentacle said:
Yeah, but said overuse requires constant strain from something he shouldn't be able to dodge. If Goku can't actually get close to killing him like that and then constantly pressure him making him use it nonstop then it won't strain him out.

Also, he can just copy basic punches too... lmao
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Then the fight will basically be, if goku can hit adam before adam can beat him with the copy ability. I think goku can because of his insane skill since in that one fight adam was in he got hit twice and goku can also use area of effect nukes I don't think adam has an answer to that.
 
PowerToScale said:
Adam is able to copy any abilities he is able to see. On top of that, the abilities he copies are superior to the original, so if Goku does a kamehameha, Adam would copy it and it would be stronger than Goku's. He able to copy abilities like time manipulation and his body reshapes itself to fit the technique (as seen when his hands altered shape and size to perform the snakes god attack). Adam also can copy multiple techniques as he copied all of Zeus's moves and then used them, so its not a "one at a time copy" copy ability.

The only time Adam had trouble was after copying Zeus ultimate straight punch because it was putting massive strain on his nervous system (Ears, eyes etc..). And that was only after performing it a many times over and Zeus wasn't giving Adam time to rest with a constant barrage of attacks. So unless he is having Kiaoken (assuming it also does damage to the nervous system) on for a extremely long time or Goku forcing him to stay in it for a long period of time, then Adam would be fine.

Even if Goku manages to kill Adam with one of his attacks, Adam would still fight because of his willpower, as he died sometime in the exchange of blows with Zeus but didn't stop fighting until Zeus was defeated.

Adam also has extremely good dodging skills, he was only hit after his eyes gave out. So it's likely Goku has a slim change of hitting him too.
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Unless he used kaioken to push his body beyond the limit which would be adams breaking point attempting to copy the technique basically killing him.
 
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