Goku (GT) vs Gogeta

[HST_Master]

BoGT Super Saiyan Goku vs Super Saiyan Gogeta

Speed Unequal

Who Wins?

 

[Falcon_Brotherhood]

Er Goku has a tier advangta doesn't he

 

[HST_Master]

BoGT Goku and Gogeta are both 4-A

 

[HST_Master]

bump

 

[SunDaGamer]

I'm going with GT Kid Goku because of Gogeta's time limit and we haven't seen what the SSJ Gogeta in Fusion Reborn can do other than that soul punisher attack

 

[AKM sama]

While base Goku in GT is stronger than Buu, base Gogeta was also stronger than Buu by a lot. I think Gogeta would have the AP advantage.

 

[HST_Master]

bump

 

[HST_Master]

bump

 

[Steve_Rogers1]

GT Goku absolutely smashes Gogeta. Super Saiyan Gogeta is a few times stronger Super Saiyan 3 Goku. GT Goku is on par with his Z SSJ3 in base. Multiply that by the official multiplier of 400, and you get a Goku that is stronger, faster, and more durable than the prior fusion. My vote goes to Goku.

 

[AKM sama]

"Super Saiyan Gogeta is a few times stronger Super Saiyan 3 Goku."

How's that?

 

[Steve_Rogers1]

The GT Perfect files state Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta to be dozens of times stronger than a regular Super Saiyan 4. The same logic would be Fusion Reborn Gogeta is over 24x stronger than Super Saiyan Goku whereas Super Saiyan 3 is only 8x stronger

 

[AKM sama]

Non canon multipliers

 

[Steve_Rogers1]

Two questions? 1) Where do you get that they are non canon? 2) Does it even matter in a fight with two non canon characters?

 

[Inertio]

If we were to go by the GT perfect files' multipliers, Gogeta would be between 24x ~ 96x base Goku because "dozens" could range this far. I'm going to use the average of the lower and upper limits of the word "dozens" to get 60x base Goku.


SSJ Gogeta >> SSJ3 Goku > Gogeta >= SSJ Goku >> Goku

SSJ Gogeta is 3000x base Goku

SSJ3 Goku is 400x base Goku

making SSJ Gogeta >= 7.5x SSJ3 Goku


GT Goku = SSJ3 Goku

SSJ GT Goku >> SSJ3 Goku

SSJ GT Goku would be 20,000x Base Goku

Conclusion

SSJ GT Goku > SSJ Gogeta >> GT Goku = SSJ3 Goku > Gogeta >= SSJ Goku

SSJ GT Goku is 6.7x SSJ Gogeta

and thus would win.

LETS PUSH THIS TO THE LIMIT FOR GOGETA THOUGH!


Gogeta = 100x base Goku

SSJ Gogeta = 5000x base Goku

that would still make him 4x weaker than SSJ GT Goku who is 20,000x base Goku.

let us not forget the fusion time limit as well...


REMEMBER EVERYONE! THIS IS NOT SOLID FACT! I KNOW MULTIPLIERS ARE FROWNED UPON AND MAYBE THE ACTUAL MULTIPLIERS FOR FUSION IS WILDLY DIFFERENT FROM THE GT PERFECT FILES!

 

[AKM sama]

Two questions? 1) Where do you get that they are non canon? 2) Does it even matter in a fight with two non canon characters?

Yes, it hasn't been stated in the show. So it's non canon.

And it matters because iirc GT perfect files were not made by Toei, who made GT.

 

[Son_Gandhi]

Gogeta may have ap advantage but honestly it is tough to say for sure either way, I'll say inconclusive because even though I believe gogeta is more likely to have ap advantage it is not solid enough for me to vote gogeta, so inconclusive.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I mean. This Goku could one-shot with Dragon Fist. It's a matter of when and if.

 

[HST_Master]

I mean. This Goku could one-shot with Dragon Fist. It's a matter of when and if.

Gogeta has Dragon Fist as well btw

 

[Inertio]

How would Gogeta have the AP advantage?