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Goetia vs Demigra
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This will become a shitstorm, following.
Oliver_de_jesus
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Fate vs DBH, This won't end well.
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Rikimarox2
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Well, idk shit about goetia, or fate in general. But, does he have any passive shit?
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no but they have eye sight mind ,soul hax and cursing
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How far is Goetia into 2-A? Base Demigra is the baseline for DBH but he should still scale above his Xenoverse self.
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Servant Physiology gives him resistance to mind hax but i don't know to what extent. Idk anything about Fate. It probably is.
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there mind hax resistances was based mindhax to a cellar level so 4d mind should be better
Rikimarox2
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Well, now it depends on if Goetia has something to one shot Demigra or not, otherwise Demigra mind rapes.
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I thought their resistance were 4D. Hmmmmm...
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goetia still could use plot hax
Rikimarox2
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I mean, if their resistance is 4-D, then idk how Demigra could win this.
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That's why i asked how far is Goetia into 2-A
Oliver_de_jesus
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hear they are the baseline with a small scale chain, although I don't know the details after all I don't care about nasuverse
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Oh. Ok.
Doesn't kinda help since DBH demigra scales above Xenoverse 1 characters so he has a scaling like:
Transcended Demon God Demigra > Demon God Demigra > Base Demigra (DBH) > FW1 + SSJ3 Post BoG Goku > Giant Demon God Demigra (XV1) >= SSJ3 Post BoG Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Base Post BoG Goku = Demigra (TokiToki Absorbed) = Baseline 2-A
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He also has an AP advantage, probably. Voting for Demigra for now
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But Goetia isn't a servant though
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Why does he have Servant Physiology? Also his profile implies that he's a servant from what i can read. Maybe i'm just misreading
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No you read it right but idk why he has servant physiology.
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The whole evidence for Goetia having plot haxs seems kinda weak tbh. It's literally just a statement from Robin.
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Regardless, My vote still goes to Demigra.
Oliver_de_jesus
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Cool time mage Demon God Take my vote
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demigra mind hax or seals
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Does Goetia have anything more than just plot hax?If not I will go for Demigra cus he has more hax and higher AP
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I'm pretty sure OP can't vote.
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goetia has more things so much that demi can not kill goetia but his hax either gets Resisted by demi or only works on humans but there is matter manip
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dont know about that i'm new here
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Don't worry. I've also done such mistakes when i joined the wiki.
Anyways, 0-3 for Demigra for now, i think.
Rikimarox2
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For now, I'll vote Demigra FRA as well.
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I found this for Goetia:
Baseline 2-A = Kama < Kiara (Pre-Strengthen) << Tiamat < Weakened Sefar < Vasavi Shakti <<< Hindu Gods << Super Karna =< Arjuna Alter <<< Mooncell = Pre-Mooncell BB < Lv.999 Meltryllis <<< Goetia
So
Transcended Demon God Demigra > Demon God Demigra > Base Demigra (DBH) > FW1 + SSJ3 Post BoG Goku > Giant Demon God Demigra (XV1) >= SSJ3 Post BoG Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Base Post BoG Goku = Demigra (TokiToki Absorbed) = Baseline 2-A
Don't know if that scaling for Goetia is true tho, but i would assume so.
Baseline 2-A = Kama < Kiara (Pre-Strengthen) << Tiamat < Weakened Sefar < Vasavi Shakti <<< Hindu Gods << Super Karna =< Arjuna Alter <<< Mooncell = Pre-Mooncell BB < Lv.999 Meltryllis <<< Goetia
So
Transcended Demon God Demigra > Demon God Demigra > Base Demigra (DBH) > FW1 + SSJ3 Post BoG Goku > Giant Demon God Demigra (XV1) >= SSJ3 Post BoG Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Base Post BoG Goku = Demigra (TokiToki Absorbed) = Baseline 2-A
Don't know if that scaling for Goetia is true tho, but i would assume so.
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goetia is invulnerable so only hax would matter
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Ok.
Wait can Goetia get past Demigra's Type 4 immortality? Does he have some hax that doesn't require him to kill Demigra?
Wait can Goetia get past Demigra's Type 4 immortality? Does he have some hax that doesn't require him to kill Demigra?
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sealing could work or asorb him before he comes back
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With keysword Demigra can resist sealing
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Ok.
So Goetia has type 8 and 9 immortality but Demigra can still incap with BFR and Sealing (he has its own sealing) and EE (unless Goetia has feats of returning without his soul and even then Demigra's EE is beyond that).
Edit: BFR is resisted but Demigra's is temporal and has more range so it should still work.
My vote is still for Demigra.
@Delta333 He doesn't have the Keysword here.
So Goetia has type 8 and 9 immortality but Demigra can still incap with BFR and Sealing (he has its own sealing) and EE (unless Goetia has feats of returning without his soul and even then Demigra's EE is beyond that).
Edit: BFR is resisted but Demigra's is temporal and has more range so it should still work.
My vote is still for Demigra.
@Delta333 He doesn't have the Keysword here.
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you did not say you where using keysword
