Goetia vs Demigra

[Delta333]

Demigra has keysword in his profile(correct me if im wrong)

 

[Joseph69420xxx]

Ok.

So Goetia has type 8 and 9 immortality but Demigra can still incap with BFR and Sealing (he has its own sealing) and EE (unless Goetia has feats of returning without his soul and even then Demigra's EE is beyond that).

Edit: BFR is resisted but Demigra's is temporal and has more range so it should still work.

My vote is still for Demigra.

@Delta333 He doesn't have the Keysword here.

goetia immortality is concept based so EE will not work demi still wins though

 

[Everything12]

Keysword is optional equipment for everyone who has it, so it's not involved in Versus automatically and needs to be said by the OP that it's being used.

BFR won't work because Independent Manifestation resist both Spatial AND Temporal BFR, so no Demigra's won't work. EE won't do anything because of Type 8 and 9 that work on a level far beyond Soul destruction.

 

[Overlord775]

Edit: BFR is resisted but Demigra's is temporal and has more range so it should still work.

goetia's Ars Paulina exists outside of time, so temporal BFR is useless

 

[Overlord775]

thanks to the Ten Rings goetia makes Demigra's dark magic useless and can copy it, so can the latter survive getting his own magic being used against him ?

 

[Joseph69420xxx]

thanks to the Ten Rings goetia can make Demigra's dark magic useless and can copy it, so can the latter survive getting his own magic being yeeted back at him ?

demigra aint a human

 

[Overlord775]

oh right

uhm, either way, goetia can easilly win thanks to the Consuming Eyes' instant kill effect or via just waiting in Ars Paulina untill he has enough energy to concept rewrite Demigra away

 

[Joseph69420xxx]

oh right

uhm, either way, goetia can easilly win thanks to the Consuming Eyes' instant kill effect or via just waiting in Ars Paulina untill he has enough energy to concept rewrite Demigra away

demigra comes back via immortalty type 4 and do you mean that acausality type 3 because demigra has the range to affect that

 

[Rikimarox2]

BTW, is goetias mind resistance 4D?

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Demigra can affect at least 2 2-A sets now so Acausality type 3 is useless here.

Can Demigra EE affect Goetia somehow?

 

[Joseph69420xxx]

Demigra can affect at least 2 2-A sets now so Acausality type 3 is useless here.

Can Demigra EE affect Goetia somehow?

no if the concept of solomon or the temple of time is there he comes back

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

no if the concept of solomon or the temple of time is there he comes back

If Demigra can't affect Goetia but the latter can affect the former then it's a stomp for Goetia.

@Delta333 Should change character since Demi gets stomped

 

[Overlord775]

@Joseph69420xxx

Demigra's type 4 immortality isn't really combact appliable, also it very much can't make him come back from conceptual overwrite

also wrong thing, Ars Paulina is an area that exists in Immaginary Number Space and which goetia has type 8 immortality to

@Rikimarox2

Conceptual 4-D to be precise, scaling [as he's tecnically a Beast-Class Servant] to servants being able to resist Tiamat's authority mud, with Authorities working on that level

 

[Delta333]

If Demigra can't affect Goetia but the latter can affect the former then it's a stomp for Goetia.

@Delta333 Should change character since Demi gets stomped

who can fight on par with Goetia in DB?

 

[Overlord775]

*Type 8 immortality

also Demigra's EE doesn't qualify as the kind that needs high-godly to come back from

 

[Rikimarox2]

Well, if Demigra can't take down Goetia, then it's a stomp.

 

[Everything12]

Theirs different types of Existence Erasure; Physical Erasure, Spiritual Erasure, and Conceptual Erasure. Demigra's is only Spiritual, which Goetia's Immortality can easily deal with.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

who can fight on par with Goetia in DB?

Well, as far as i know you need to basically bust the multiverse to beat Goetia due to type 8/9. or find someone that can incap him. Lemme see DB 2-As.

Mechikabura is a good example, i think.

 

[Delta333]

I want a fair match for 2As Nasu and DB cus others 2A are too strong for them but it's quite hard tbh

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

I want a fair match for 2As Nasu and DB cus others 2A are too strong for them but it's quite hard tbh

Problem is that DBH verse will go throught a lot of CRTs in this period so it's better to wait. The best person to use in DB is Mechikabura (His strongest key).

 

[Arthex]

Theirs different types of Existence Erasure; Physical Erasure, Spiritual Erasure, and Conceptual Erasure. Demigra's is only Spiritual, which Goetia's Immortality can easily deal with.

I thought it was history based-

 

[Overlord775]

don't necro threads