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Yeah, the Brady Guide has a lot of juicy stuff, but unfortunately they were not prepared in time. They will be relegated to Part 2 of the CRT.
You can't LOL, the meta is dead. BURY IT.
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God of War General CRT
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DM ME THE DETAILS OF PART 2, I CAN'T LET WALL LEVEL KRATOS DIE
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WALL LEVEL KRATOS IS DEAD. BURY IT.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Just saw this reply; yeah they'd be comparable enough. They fight similar monsters (like the Cyclopes which are consistently a threat to Kratos), have magic that explicitly makes them "demigods" in might and they use weapons of great power, such as the one stated to rival the Blades of Chaos. They're weaker but not to an insane degree and I can imagine them getting Kratos' Rating with a "Varies, up to 2-C with Weapons"
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Cyclops be mad powerful
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@KLOL506 Yeah, which the novels back it up by all the times the furies freak out over Kratos.
How exactly does the place collapsing in anyway prove the fates resistance gets butchered? You don’t really elaborate here.
Yeah you know what else is absent in the game? Literally all the chapters where we see the gods and the sisters talk to themselves. By that logic we shouldn’t use those scenes cause it’s a massive contradiction to the game.
As for the whole Demigod Kratos tier, I don’t mind him being solid 4-B while the redeemed warrior would be tier 7 to maybe tier 4, but I won’t lose sleep if they both share the same tier.
How exactly does the place collapsing in anyway prove the fates resistance gets butchered? You don’t really elaborate here.
Yeah you know what else is absent in the game? Literally all the chapters where we see the gods and the sisters talk to themselves. By that logic we shouldn’t use those scenes cause it’s a massive contradiction to the game.
As for the whole Demigod Kratos tier, I don’t mind him being solid 4-B while the redeemed warrior would be tier 7 to maybe tier 4, but I won’t lose sleep if they both share the same tier.
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The concept of Fate itself ceases to exist.
How exactly? They're bonus parts that don't go against the plot but rather add on extras to clarify any plot holes. The contradictions I am referring to are the ones that blatantly go against the order or events in the game itself, like The Desert of Lost Souls being a separate dimension and requiring a portal to enter versus it being accessible via a normal doorway in the game and being within the Mortal World itself, or Kratos and Jason actually walking out for a while whereas in the game Jason is already dead at the hands of the Cerberus, or Kratos using Ares' own blade to kill him instead of using the Blade of the Gods (Which was restored in GOW2 and its novel). We discussed this already in the server.
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Ok? And severing the threads means the concept of fate doesn’t ceases to exist for those people how?
You’ve literally kept saying it goes against what happened with Kratos breaking fate when it literally does not the entire discussion. He’s actively breaking fate for others when they literally cannot do it on their own, and he’s still using those threads to time travel like he did in the game so it’s not a complete contradiction to the games.
You’ve literally kept saying it goes against what happened with Kratos breaking fate when it literally does not the entire discussion. He’s actively breaking fate for others when they literally cannot do it on their own, and he’s still using those threads to time travel like he did in the game so it’s not a complete contradiction to the games.
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Kratos is still actively the master of the Threads at this moment until he bails out his Titan predecessors, by which point the Loom Chamber has already started to collapse.
In the game, he only uses his thread to travel back in time, and he never uses the Spear on any of the millions of threads in the background.
He is being the destroyer of his own Fate only, not anyone else's Fate.
And even if we did truly consider adding this to him, it would ultimately be rendered completely moot, as the collapse of the chamber itself would effectively be Kratos destroying the concept of Fate as a whole, it doesn't exist anymore. Can't resist something that doesn't exist.
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About time this CRT got made (And it also reminds me I gotta get back to work on my Odin sandbox, kinda forgot about due to focusing on Zelda and Kid Icarus stuff).
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My only GoW knowledge is in the Norse era, and even that is limited, so I’m just gonna
Jormungandr, Garmr and Nidhogg are missing references for most, if not all of the scans in their sandboxes.
If you’re gonna separate Kratos’ keys into tabbers, please do it for all of his stats, not just his attack potency.
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All of it is from the game (Concept Manip is from a boat story) so wouldn't the refs just be GoW: Ragnarok over and over?
Yeah, we were actually still going over that. The tabbered AP was just a demonstration that we didn't decide on yet. We'll get it sorted out soon.
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Personally, I'm all for tabbers on the sections. What about you guys?
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Yeah, but it should still be listed. You could probably just put this in the references section:
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Not quite. I can look for the story-based mission stuff.
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@KLOL506 That doesn't really mean the concept of fate itself ceases to exist, you'd need to have extraordinary evidence for that.
That's also what he did, he used his own thread to go back in time, the spear of destiny just adds more to his status of destroying fate.
Literally when was it only said he was capable of destroying his own fate? Cause last time I checked that wasn't a specific thing for his own fate, just that he can overcome fate itself.
That again needs massive amount of evidence that the concept of fate itself literally ceased to exist with the loom chamber collapsing. He rendered the sisters of fate null with his stunts, he didn't literally erase the concept of fate itself, that needs massive evidence for.
@Planck69 I don't like the tabber look personally, especially on mobile because of how fragmented it looks, I prefer just merging all the tabbers into one for the stats.
That's also what he did, he used his own thread to go back in time, the spear of destiny just adds more to his status of destroying fate.
Literally when was it only said he was capable of destroying his own fate? Cause last time I checked that wasn't a specific thing for his own fate, just that he can overcome fate itself.
That again needs massive amount of evidence that the concept of fate itself literally ceased to exist with the loom chamber collapsing. He rendered the sisters of fate null with his stunts, he didn't literally erase the concept of fate itself, that needs massive evidence for.
@Planck69 I don't like the tabber look personally, especially on mobile because of how fragmented it looks, I prefer just merging all the tabbers into one for the stats.
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I've referenced them.
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Myth to Legend interview. Game itself.
I mean, isn't that the normal order of events that goes on within the game? Also, how are you going to explain the Thread Snapping not happening ever in the game itself?
At this point neither of us will concede, so we'll let the people decide.
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I agree now onto 2-C Ascension Kratos.
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Ah yes, finally. A Coup d'état.
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Anyway, let's not derail. It seems Elizhaa and DemonGodMitchAubin have yet to respond.
@Elizhaa @DemonGodMitchAubin Pretty please?
@Elizhaa @DemonGodMitchAubin Pretty please?
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BTW @Theglassman12 @Planck69, you forgot to add the other scan about magic equating to strength.
"Some more evidence for Magic tying to one’s strength (GOW2 Novel Chapter 35)"
"Some more evidence for Magic tying to one’s strength (GOW2 Novel Chapter 35)"
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One minor recommendation, The major Olympians all need bold applied to the abilities on the links on their profiles just so they'll be a little easier to follow.
The multiplayer links can them a little tricky to read
The multiplayer links can them a little tricky to read
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I plan to bold the abilities on all the profiles soon, I was about to do the Redeemed Warrior myself but then the CRT popped up.
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After that very long read, I agree with everything in the OP
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Pankration is pretty much the Ancestor of modern MMA. Should probably go to Deimos too.
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Things have happened in the last couple hours since the posting of this CRT.
I have had a conversation with @GilverTheProtoAngelo and as such I am willing to retract my statements on my rejection on the Spear of Destiny and Gaia getting Fate-related stuff, and I might possibly lean on accepting it after all. However, I will wait to see what Gilver has to bring to the table about his new foundings.
I have had a conversation with @GilverTheProtoAngelo and as such I am willing to retract my statements on my rejection on the Spear of Destiny and Gaia getting Fate-related stuff, and I might possibly lean on accepting it after all. However, I will wait to see what Gilver has to bring to the table about his new foundings.
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Alright, nice. Then my only remaining qualm is the formatting of Kratos’ keys.
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Oh? You mean the number of games in the brackets? Or the tabbers?
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Btw for clarifications, the conceptual manipulation for soul haxing would be type 3 since it’s based on the individual, not something that governs reality, let alone is independent of reality.
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Gud, now add it to the CRT alongside the Fear Zeus stuff like I've told you to from the very beginning my padawan
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As for what other upgrades Fear Zeus would get:
- Conceptual Mind Manipulation because he literally invaded Fear in a brute-forced manner into Kratos’s mind to completely destroy any remnants of whatever consciousness lingered within him.
- His soul and mind resistance gets buffed even further because they are enforced by Fear (This is for base Zeus)
- As Per WoG, Kratos had his soul completely destroyed by Fear Zeus, but later PoH Kratos shrugs him off. So Fear Zeus gets soul destruction of enhanced nature if not conceptual because of how it was done. And PoH gets resistance to it.
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