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Gilgamesh vs. Terrarian
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Not really commenting on the match result and who will win. But if its about the arsenal of both dudes here, i'd say that Gil is slightly superior since what he store in his vault is basically human's ingenuity/achievements.
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What does Ea even do other than ignore durability?
If it is only a one shot, I'd give it to the Terrarian both rounds, as he has more numerous and reliable way to one shot Gilg than the opposite.
If it is only a one shot, I'd give it to the Terrarian both rounds, as he has more numerous and reliable way to one shot Gilg than the opposite.
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I think its kinda like a "hot knife through butter" situation.
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Well, the same would happen with the Terrarian, due to a lot of their weapons having selective intangibility. Most of their attacks would completely pierce Gilgamesh's armor to destroy his vitals.
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I think that Rad was explaining Gilga's hax, not voting.
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Im waiting to hear some more arguments before voting.
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Ea/Enuma Erishu busts concepts or something. If I'm remembering correctly, Ea is the stuff that created everything on Earth and stabilized it into a concept. It's a conceptual attack that tears through space and time and shows the 'truth', returning things to their origin, and was capable of killing someone who's acausal and omnipresent throughout space and time and wasn't able to be killed by the deities who created the concepts of civilization and also reduces the concepts of civilization and life to nothingness. It's also said to have similar properties to Slash Emperor which is capable of killing beings who lack the concept of death and embody the planet they come from.
Yeah, that's all I remember from Reppuzan. Also, he can see all possible outcomes/futures with Sha Nagba Imuru and make the correct and most optimal move, regardless of the complexity of his opponent. Even if complex and complicated actions and predictions are made, it enables Gilgamesh to always be one step ahead of his opponent.
Yeah, that's all I remember from Reppuzan. Also, he can see all possible outcomes/futures with Sha Nagba Imuru and make the correct and most optimal move, regardless of the complexity of his opponent. Even if complex and complicated actions and predictions are made, it enables Gilgamesh to always be one step ahead of his opponent.
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Terrariab for reasons above
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To be fair it's not like he would be able to do much against a barrage of piercing bullets. Dodging those would be hard and blocking won't do anything.
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Um, what do you mean? SNI wouldn't help much? Didn't you see how I described it? It always shows Gilgamesh the most optimal thing to do, regardless of what his opponent does. It's how he knew to cover his head with his hands when Assassin used Tsubame Gaeshi. It's not like normal precognition. It allows him to see all possible outcomes/futures even from parallel worlds.
When facing him in a game like chess, he claims that even someone making advanced predictions and reading the flow of the game will have already lost at that moment. He does not read the future of the chess board, but instead gazes down upon it and oversees, allowing the correct move to always be visible to him.
It allows him to always remain one step ahead of his opponent. If his opponent makes a move, he can see the weaknesses and ways to counter it. Even if Gilgamesh is surrounded by a host of weapons and anyone connecting with him will instantly kill him, Sha Nagba Imuru will show him the exact way and manner, what position he should be in to enable him not to be affected. At least that's what I've been told. It allows him to see things he knows nothing about like the truth of the downfall of humans or something. Just look at his page. So, no, I don't see how Sha Nagba Imuru wouldn't help much.
He would know exactly what Terrarian is going to do and do something like bring out Vimana and fly into outer space out of Terrarian's range and unleash weapons, some of which cleave through space, burn away anything it touches and fire lasers thereby ignoring durability and leave wounds that cannot be healed. Also, not sure what teleportation would do. Gilgamesh has a nigh infinite treasury and can open portals around his opponents, hide them, fire omni directional weapons and drop the magical equivalent of nuclear bombs. Teleportation just won't cut it forever. Additionally, Enuma Elish was capable of completely annihilating Kiara who grew large enough to stuff Earth into her err, private regions and this version of Gilgamesh is apparently willing to use it as a casual attack.
Erm, wait. Why was Ea restricted? Isn't that Gilgamesh's Noble Phantasm?
When facing him in a game like chess, he claims that even someone making advanced predictions and reading the flow of the game will have already lost at that moment. He does not read the future of the chess board, but instead gazes down upon it and oversees, allowing the correct move to always be visible to him.
It allows him to always remain one step ahead of his opponent. If his opponent makes a move, he can see the weaknesses and ways to counter it. Even if Gilgamesh is surrounded by a host of weapons and anyone connecting with him will instantly kill him, Sha Nagba Imuru will show him the exact way and manner, what position he should be in to enable him not to be affected. At least that's what I've been told. It allows him to see things he knows nothing about like the truth of the downfall of humans or something. Just look at his page. So, no, I don't see how Sha Nagba Imuru wouldn't help much.
He would know exactly what Terrarian is going to do and do something like bring out Vimana and fly into outer space out of Terrarian's range and unleash weapons, some of which cleave through space, burn away anything it touches and fire lasers thereby ignoring durability and leave wounds that cannot be healed. Also, not sure what teleportation would do. Gilgamesh has a nigh infinite treasury and can open portals around his opponents, hide them, fire omni directional weapons and drop the magical equivalent of nuclear bombs. Teleportation just won't cut it forever. Additionally, Enuma Elish was capable of completely annihilating Kiara who grew large enough to stuff Earth into her err, private regions and this version of Gilgamesh is apparently willing to use it as a casual attack.
Erm, wait. Why was Ea restricted? Isn't that Gilgamesh's Noble Phantasm?
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I think he is trying to say that nothing in Gilgamesh's arsenal can stop the Terrarian's projectiles and danmaku from ripping him to shreds as soon as the match starts. Even if he pulls out his FTL ship, he can't enter it fast enough, and even if he did, Terrarian is large planet level anyways. Last prism would probably work.
I felt like it would take far too many assumptions to use Ea as evidence in this battle. There are arguments on both sides; some can claim that he could one-shot the Terrarian with it. However, others will counter that the Terrarian's shoot first mentality stops him from charging it. After all, the Terrarian's fastest melee weapons are far too fast for Gilgamesh. For example, the Fetid Baghnakhs swings 600 times per second. Gilgamesh cannot stop that up close. If you want a weapon from his profile, his best bow, phantasm (ironic) shoots 10 arrows per second with laser afterimages that home in.Burning Full Fingers said:
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Speed is equalised thoughFDrybob said:
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What Monarch said. And Enuma Elish's charge time is slightly slower than Excalibur's which can be used in a fraction of a second. There's actually no need to restrict Ea.
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Gil can and probably would just planet bust. And I don't believe the Terrarian can survive in outerspace
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What makes the Terrarian's danmaku impossible to intercept again? Gil has tons of shields in his treasury, including those with conceptual level defenses. In addition, nearly every hero's Noble Phantasm (or their even more powerful ancient equivalent) is stored within Gil's treasury, which should include things like Achilles' Akhilleus Cosmos, which phases everything inside into a miniature world. Given the the power of Noble Phantasm are usually proportional to their owners, it only makes sense that Gil's NP's would scale up to match his 5-A Form's power.
In addition, I feel that the Terrarian is the one outhaxed here. Inside his treasury are countless treasures and weapons, including conceptual weapons that can kill the likes of Arcueid Brunestud. There are also weapons like Gáe Bolg and Gáe Buidhe, both of which nullify Regenerationn and healing, as well as weapons like Gram, Enkidu, and of course, Ea.
Some other useful equipment is Hades' Cap of Invisibility, which completely masks Gil and his magical signature from sight and perception, the Shield of the Gods that took a traced Broken Phantasm Excalibur with ease, and axes that tear apart space.
Then there's the fact that Gil's weapons can be homing too if he so desires.
In addition, I feel that the Terrarian is the one outhaxed here. Inside his treasury are countless treasures and weapons, including conceptual weapons that can kill the likes of Arcueid Brunestud. There are also weapons like Gáe Bolg and Gáe Buidhe, both of which nullify Regenerationn and healing, as well as weapons like Gram, Enkidu, and of course, Ea.
Some other useful equipment is Hades' Cap of Invisibility, which completely masks Gil and his magical signature from sight and perception, the Shield of the Gods that took a traced Broken Phantasm Excalibur with ease, and axes that tear apart space.
Then there's the fact that Gil's weapons can be homing too if he so desires.
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Mostly because the Terrarian's weapons are generally intangible, completely ignoring shields and armors.
Invisibility would be countered by the Hunter Potion most likely.
Can Gilgamesh really Planet bust? It seems like 5-A comes from scaling to someone, not via busting the planet. Either way, the Terrarian can breath in space no problem, and has access to personal spaceships anyway.
Invisibility would be countered by the Hunter Potion most likely.
Can Gilgamesh really Planet bust? It seems like 5-A comes from scaling to someone, not via busting the planet. Either way, the Terrarian can breath in space no problem, and has access to personal spaceships anyway.
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Isn't Akhilleus Kosmos a divine construct, so he wouldn't have that? He still has plenty of other magical and physical defenses though
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@Saikou
I highly doubt that Gil would be unable to do so, since he grievously wounded someone as large as a planet.
Have they passed through magical and conceptual barriers or clashed against other conceptual weapons?
As stated before, there's also nothing stopping Gil from simply shattering reality around him and letting the Terrarian suffocate in space.
I highly doubt that Gil would be unable to do so, since he grievously wounded someone as large as a planet.
Have they passed through magical and conceptual barriers or clashed against other conceptual weapons?
As stated before, there's also nothing stopping Gil from simply shattering reality around him and letting the Terrarian suffocate in space.
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the terrarian doesn't suffocate in spaceReppuzan said:
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I still don't know why Ea is restricted.
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@Reppuzan
there's literally a space biome, with reduced gravity and black background with visible stars
there's literally a space biome, with reduced gravity and black background with visible stars
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Ill update his profile with the items later.
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the terrarian wins via highter AP and durability, he is able to easilly kill beings that can do large planetary level feats with a small portion of their power ( also the rusult of the calculation was around 4-C, idk why it was decided to put him as 5-A), meanwhile gilgamesh has a low-mid 5-A feat
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@Overlord
We go by the ratings on their profiles. Not to mention the fact that this match is skewed in the Terrarian's favor by denying Gilgamesh's access to Ea.
That said, the Terrarian has no way to counter various weapons in the Gate of Babylon, such as Gilgamesh's space-shattering axe and the various conceptual weapons and defenses within.
We go by the ratings on their profiles. Not to mention the fact that this match is skewed in the Terrarian's favor by denying Gilgamesh's access to Ea.
That said, the Terrarian has no way to counter various weapons in the Gate of Babylon, such as Gilgamesh's space-shattering axe and the various conceptual weapons and defenses within.
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Gil doesn't even need Ea here lol. While Gilgamesh doesn't have divine constructs like Akhilleus Kosmos he still has enough conceptual defences to block Terrarians attacks, couple that with Gilgamesh's conceptual and space-shattering weapons means that Gil will overwhelm and kill Terrarian.
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what is the strongest attack that Gil's conceptual defences have blocked ?
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Voting for Gilgamesh with medium difficulties, for reasons already stated.
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That isn't a space biome btw. Just way up in the atmosphere. We know the Terrarian needs oxygen to breathe seeing as he drowns if he stays under water for too long, but the oxygen bar never comes up even at the highest altitude, so it can't be outerspace.
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Terrarian: 3
Gilgamesh: 5
Also, a lot of the Terrarian's weapons can completely pass through walls, hurt intangible beings, and ignore all armor. Plus, his potions give him a lot of advantages, particularly in healing. Are you sure that Gilgamesh would bust out the big guns immediately? He is pretty arrogant. Plus, with the Terrarian's immunity to knockback and high resistance to damage, he could just run up to Gilgamesh.
Gilgamesh: 5
Either way, the Terrarian has a UFO.Monarch Laciel said:
Also, a lot of the Terrarian's weapons can completely pass through walls, hurt intangible beings, and ignore all armor. Plus, his potions give him a lot of advantages, particularly in healing. Are you sure that Gilgamesh would bust out the big guns immediately? He is pretty arrogant. Plus, with the Terrarian's immunity to knockback and high resistance to damage, he could just run up to Gilgamesh.
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That resistance to damage is what makes him 5-A. Without it, he gets oneshot.
Quite literally everything the Terrarian has, Gil also has. That's how GoB works. It isn't just an armoury of weapons or a treasury of things he's collected. Its the receptacle of all of mankind's inventions, magical or non-magical. It has things that is shouldn't be possible to have like modern weaponry, because whatever mankind creates, GoB retroactively gains. Including healing potions and armours that make him nigh-immune to magic.
This Gil is incredibly less arrogant than his F/SN version, and is willing to use everything he has from the start, including SNI (which tells him exactly what to do to win, including precisely what abilities to use, where to aim his attacks, where to move and position his body so the Terrarian's attacks can't hit him), Vimana to just nuke everything, omnidirectional blade spam of his strongest weapons, which can cut through space to go through walls just as the terrarian's do, destroy magic on contact, nullify Regenerationn (rendering healing potions and abilities useless) and immortality, Enkidu to nullify the Terrarian's magic and teleportation, etc.
Quite literally everything the Terrarian has, Gil also has. That's how GoB works. It isn't just an armoury of weapons or a treasury of things he's collected. Its the receptacle of all of mankind's inventions, magical or non-magical. It has things that is shouldn't be possible to have like modern weaponry, because whatever mankind creates, GoB retroactively gains. Including healing potions and armours that make him nigh-immune to magic.
This Gil is incredibly less arrogant than his F/SN version, and is willing to use everything he has from the start, including SNI (which tells him exactly what to do to win, including precisely what abilities to use, where to aim his attacks, where to move and position his body so the Terrarian's attacks can't hit him), Vimana to just nuke everything, omnidirectional blade spam of his strongest weapons, which can cut through space to go through walls just as the terrarian's do, destroy magic on contact, nullify Regenerationn (rendering healing potions and abilities useless) and immortality, Enkidu to nullify the Terrarian's magic and teleportation, etc.
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@Rappunzan the terrarian can hit harder
@Monarch Laciel considering that the terrarian has an AP advantage, couldn't he just break Gil's weapons ? ans does gil have a spetral intangible dragon, or a machine gun with homing bullets ? also the terrarian has multiple ways to damage gil other than with magic,
@Monarch Laciel considering that the terrarian has an AP advantage, couldn't he just break Gil's weapons ? ans does gil have a spetral intangible dragon, or a machine gun with homing bullets ? also the terrarian has multiple ways to damage gil other than with magic,
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@Overlord, your questions in order: Hitting a Noble Phantasm that you know nothing about is, in Nasuverse's own words, tadamount to suicide because it could do anything from blowing up in your face to killing you on contact to sucking you into a parallel world of fire and death, Spectral dragon no (but has weapons that can destroy intangible and spiritual beings), machine gun with homing bullets yes due to the whole "receptacle of all mankind's inventiosn" thing (not that he needs it seeing as GoB can function exactly the same just with super haxed weapons as bullets), and that's good, seeing as Gil's armour no-sells all the Terrarian's magical abilities with ease but Gil also has multiple ways to damage the Terrarian
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@Overlord
Once again, we go by what's on their profiles. If you don't like it, make a content revision thread.
@Overlord
Except for the dragon, yes to the things in his vault. His Gate of Babylon can home in on targets if he wishes them to (as he did in his dogfight with Lancelot).
As for the Terrarian's Danmaku, Gil shoots them all down with the Gate or with his Auto-Defensor, which automatically vaporizes any projectile that approaches Gil with magical lightning unless they exceed Gil's speed. Since speed is equalized, not happening.
Once again, we go by what's on their profiles. If you don't like it, make a content revision thread.
@Overlord
Except for the dragon, yes to the things in his vault. His Gate of Babylon can home in on targets if he wishes them to (as he did in his dogfight with Lancelot).
As for the Terrarian's Danmaku, Gil shoots them all down with the Gate or with his Auto-Defensor, which automatically vaporizes any projectile that approaches Gil with magical lightning unless they exceed Gil's speed. Since speed is equalized, not happening.
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