Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[MSahla]

Starting to rework the entire Elemental Energy page on my own, might take 2 weeks at least,

Nah, probably next week is done.

 

[MSahla]

 

[Puppet43]

Death Battle Predictions: Aang VS Traveler

“To extend yourself in kindness to anybody is an extension in kindness to the world.”-Oprah Winfrey Aang, the Avatar and Unifier of the World. Aether, the Traveler and Fourth Descender …

g1-team.com

WE HAVE G1 ON OUR SIDE

 

[Puppet43]

At least my version is better looking than yours, that's for sure.

Burden of proof

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Death Battle Predictions: Aang VS Traveler

“To extend yourself in kindness to anybody is an extension in kindness to the world.”-Oprah Winfrey Aang, the Avatar and Unifier of the World. Aether, the Traveler and Fourth Descender …

g1-team.com

WE HAVE G1 ON OUR SIDE

Son the fricking mentioned Bongohead and even factored him into the verdict. I did not expect this level of research

 

[AsterReal]

Burden of proof

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MSahla/Elemental_Energy_Page

I think your page is better organized than Sahl's version.

 

[MSahla]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MSahla/Elemental_Energy_Page

I think your page is better organized than Sahl's version

It ain't even finished yet.

 

[AsterReal]

Archaeolune Energy is an power found on the Frost Moon. It is described as an ancient power deeply connected to Kuuvahki, and it is in fact, the original and primordial form of Kuuvahki.

It possess not only all the functions and properties of Kuuvahki, but also possess the functions and properties of Phlogiston, working and being used as a programmable matter, as energy and even to store and record informations, it also possesss the functions and properties of the Primordial Sea, possessing the power of creation and even the creation of life. It is referred by Columbina simply as Blue Kuuvahki.

And yet there are those who say that the Moon Goddesses had no authority over life.

 

[Puppet43]

Son the fricking mentioned Bongohead and even factored him into the verdict. I did not expect this level of research

Nah they were larping on some occasions

• Frost moon feat being lower
• Saying Traveler geo scaled to Andrius full power
• saying Skirk quest happend in fontaine Arc
• Saying Arle = Traveler in Nod Krai (No marrow)

It ain't even finished yet.

Not to hate you, but you litterally made the only error that i was talking when referring to Garrixian's page
U can't differently check to Geo Abilities, u have to lock up in the section of 7 elements and then scroll down

 

[MSahla]

Not to hate you, but you litterally made the only error that i was talking when referring to Garrixian's page
U can't differently check to Geo Abilities, u have to lock up in the section of 7 elements and then scroll down

Click this shit.
You think I don't know how this works?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MSahla/Elemental_Energy_Page#Geo

 

[MSahla]

All you need to do is just to put hastag at the end and put a specifict section you wanna go to, and that's it. That's such a non-issue, lmao.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Nah they were larping on some occasions

• Frost moon feat being lower
• Saying Traveler geo scaled to Andrius full power
• saying Skirk quest happend in fontaine Arc
• Saying Arle = Traveler in Nod Krai (No marrow)

I just took most of that as liberal upscaling. They even discussed blackhole scaling. Although speaking of calcs I was expecting to see more of your stuff. Your Ochkan calc has been mentioned a lot through out this waiting period

 

[AsterReal]

 

[CaporalTheBig]

Nah they were larping on some occasions

• Frost moon feat being lower
• Saying Traveler geo scaled to Andrius full power
• saying Skirk quest happend in fontaine Arc
• Saying Arle = Traveler in Nod Krai (No marrow)

Saying that Traveler only LIKELY DOWNSCALED Skirk by SOME DEGREE by the end of NOD-KRAI like they didn't have showcase of relativity 300 Tartaglizillion times in her SQ

 

[Puppet43]

I was expecting to see more of your stuff.

Bassicly this

 

[Puppet43]

Click this shit.
You think I don't know how this works?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MSahla/Elemental_Energy_Page#Geo

Ok, then i would have only issues rn with u using characters only abilities in some occasions

• Hydro shield
• Kazuha amp stats

This 2 because are not universal between all character, just outliers of how some characters use Hydro manip/Electro (do i think the amp comes from having 2 visions, not electro itslef)
and Status Effect because it requieres a non neutral battlefield to work, therefore would be kinda meh

 

[MSahla]

Ok, then i would have only issues rn with u using characters only abilities in some occasions

• Hydro shield
• Kazuha amp stats

This 2 because are not universal between all character, just outliers of how some characters use Hydro manip/Electro (do i think the amp comes from having 2 visions, not electro itslef)
and Status Effect because it requieres a non neutral battlefield to work, therefore would be kinda meh

First, the page is about what Elemental Energy is capable of, not what every individual user automatically possesses. Different characters have different applications of the same element. We don't reject Pyrokinesis because only some Pyro users can create explosions, nor do we reject Cryokinesis because only some Cryo users can create constructs. The page lists the demonstrated capabilities of elemental energy, while individual profiles only receive the abilities they have actually shown.

About Hydro shields, Hydro users have canonically demonstrated the ability to create barriers and shields. Candace, Sigewinne, Hydro Traveler, and several Hydro enemies all produce Hydro-based defensive barriers. The fact that not every Hydro user has a shield is irrelevant; it simply means barrier creation is one application of Hydro manipulation, not a universal technique. The same applies to Geo users, not every user performs Geo shields on them, yet they are still valid applications of their respective elements.

Kazuha's case, I might just change it to specifict Speed Amplification, as it makes him more faster than before, strength-wise probably the combination of 2 Visions, but the Electro Vision surely is the one that responsible for his speed enhancement.

Status Effects.
Requiring conditions does not invalidate an ability. VSBW routinely lists conditional abilities. Wet requires Hydro application, Frozen requires Hydro + Cryo, Quicken requires Dendro + Electro, etc. Those are still legitimate status effects because they are reproducible effects caused by elemental energy.

 

[Puppet43]

We don't reject Pyrokinesis because only some Pyro users can create explosions, nor do we reject Cryokinesis because only some Cryo users can create constructs.

We do
Are u gonna list all of Apep's feat via dendro because since its energy every dendro user should be able to replicate such feats?
Ofc no, each character has their own method of using their energy, their combat style and philosophies, Traveler for example throws everything in his pocket at every one, meanwhile someone like Dottore prefferead to stand still and wait for their attacks to come to him

Candace, Sigewinne, Hydro Traveler,

Isnt candance a parry and Sigewinne a bubble?

and several Hydro enemies all produce Hydro-based defensive barriers.

Wanna know something that more enemies do than defense? Healing

Kazuha's case, I might just change it to specifict Speed Amplification, as it makes him more faster than before, strength-wise probably the combination of 2 Visions, but the Electro Vision surely is the one that responsible for his speed enhancement.

That actually makes more sense

 

[Puppet43]

• Snezhnaya
• First world quest boss
• Dragon Sovereign

TRAVELER UPSCALE

 

[Puppet43]

Got an accepted calc for Archon tiers (Massively Hypersonic) Wanderer blocking a lightning beam that was gonna intercept Traveler