Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[MSahla]

Feats of him beating a 100% Angel + This ain't about statments, ITS ABOUT FEATS
VENTI HAS THE FEATS TO BACK UP MY CLAIMS

Unfortunately, this case is statements > feats.
For example:

• Prime Venti defeating Ursa shows he was at least as strong as Ursa.
• It doesn't establish he was stronger than every other Prime Archon.
• To claim that, you'd need evidence comparing Venti directly to Raiden, Zhongli, Mavuika, etc.

So, you're just confusing "Venti has good feats" with "Venti is canonically above every other Prime Archon"

scaling to a Dvalin which can clash against an AU Dvalin capable of no selling Current Traveler attacks, Current Traveler scales much higher than Archons, with some argument u can even downscale him to 50% Nicole

You just think every Traveler's attack is as equal as the others. I already told you that Dvalin wasn't about to attack him specifically because he was dive in from high and his huge body bout to hit the Traveler.

 

[MSahla]

The fact that the 3D model is very close to 2D is insane. It's better even with those hair details.

 

[MSahla]

Diluc could never.

 

[Natsuki012]

Diluc could never.

albedo could never

 

[Natsuki012]

 

[MSahla]

Justice to Albedo man.

 

[MSahla]

How to play Genshin Impact properly

 

[MSahla]

I've tried this and it was cool

 

[MSahla]

Real

 

[SomeJJJJ]

Genshin why the **** Amber and Barbara's model looked so good back then

(If this is what they mean with enhancing models in 7.0 i'm losing my mind)

 

[Puppet43]

So, you're just confusing "Venti has good feats" with "Venti is canonically above every other Prime Archon"

Nope,both things can be true at same time

Unfortunately, this case is statements > feats.
For example:

• Prime Venti defeating Ursa shows he was at least as strong as Ursa.
• It doesn't establish he was stronger than every other Prime Archon.
• To claim that, you'd need evidence comparing Venti directly to Raiden, Zhongli, Mavuika, etc.

U are the one claiming the possitive assertion of "Venti is relative to other archons" the burden is on to you to proof that, in fact the last point

• To claim that, you'd need evidence comparing Venti directly to Raiden, Zhongli, Mavuika, etc.

Can be proven by just using Traveler

• Current Traveler is stronger than Pyro, who was relative to Ei and Mavuika; Current Traveler is below Dvalin, who is comparable to Venti
• Bakunawa fragment was relative to Post Skirk Traveler, who was stronger than Pyro Traveler; and we know Bakunawa FP is somewhat comparable to Durin and therefore Dvalin and Venti
• Durin in Nod Krai could handle Rerir 10% FP in his body without any negative impact, meanwhile Traveler amped by Moon Marrow was downscaling of that same Rerir
• Current Traveler is relative to 50% Angel; Venti held back (Lohen quest implies they didnt kill Ursa, because of pity) against 100% Ursa

Dont u see the consistency?

You just think every Traveler's attack is as equal as the others. I already told you that Dvalin wasn't about to attack him specifically because he was dive in from high and his huge body bout to hit the Traveler.

And u dont think the KE of slamming is body isnt an attack when Dvalin has been a pure physical fighter except in counted occasions?

 

[MSahla]

Nope,both things can be true at same time

If not supported by the direct evidence, no.

U are the one claiming the possitive assertion of "Venti is relative to other archons" the burden is on to you to proof that, in fact the last point

Again, I don't need to. As I told you, my entire point is this whole "Archon level" stuff. I mean, you still not answering my two options:

So you have two options:

1. Accept the general "Prime Archon level" scaling, in which Ursa and other Prime Archons are comparable.
2. Or reject the whole "Archon level" thing altogether and argue that every Archon must be scaled independently.

There's still no definitive reason or evidence for you to say Venti is the only outlier or special than all of the Archons. I would agree with you if there's direct statements saying "Venti is stronger than the rest of the Archons because he fought Ursa" or anything similar.

Can be proven by just using Traveler

• Current Traveler is stronger than Pyro, who was relative to Ei and Mavuika; Current Traveler is below Dvalin, who is comparable to Venti
• Bakunawa fragment was relative to Post Skirk Traveler, who was stronger than Pyro Traveler; and we know Bakunawa FP is somewhat comparable to Durin and therefore Dvalin and Venti
• Durin in Nod Krai could handle Rerir 10% FP in his body without any negative impact, meanwhile Traveler amped by Moon Marrow was downscaling of that same Rerir
• Current Traveler is relative to 50% Angel; Venti held back (Lohen quest implies they didnt kill Ursa, because of pity) against 100% Ursa

Dont u see the consistency?

I mean, this is just relying on a long chain scaling to made up your claim rather than direct evidence, in fact you need to do that. Ironically, the strongest argument is not this your whole ass chainscaling. Like I don't even bother to read all those because I know those aren't a direct evidence that I wanted.

 

[MSahla]

6 years ago vs now

 

[MSahla]

Ok that's just the Seven Sovereigns in Teyvat, lol.

 

[AsterReal]

Columbina, after meeting Klee: