Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[Voidnether]

Mf just be lying or just straight up skipping the lore rn. Nibelung and the Voyager wanna say Hi to you.

Pretty sure both of them are amped by Abyssal Energy which is what bypasses the limit;

Note: It is currently accepted that Genshin Impact is within the same cosmology as Honkai Impact 3rd and Honkai: Star Rail, which would cap Genshin Impact to be only the Speed of Light. Those who are deemed FTL are due to Abyssal Energy being able to bypass the limit, hence all future FTL feats would have to be done by Abyssal Energy empowerment and this is not limited to: Being able to enhance your statistics with Abyssal Energy, or spaceships imbued Abyssal Energy to bypass the Speed of Light restriction or any powersource in Genshin Impact that functions similarly to the Abyssal Energy to be classified as FTL.

The possibly H1-C removal acknowledges the scans for the Aether Network, which is where the limit is derived from. You gotta be imbued by Abyssal Energy or any powersource that functions similarly to the Abyssal Energy to even be considered FTL, Abyssal Energy being subset of Imaginary Energy is still on-going but with how its treated currently; Abyssal Energy on its own is actually able to bypass the speed limit without requiring Imaginary Energy. Like I said the thread will always be open though if there was ever a moment to merge Imaginary Energy with Abyssal Energy.

 

[Mbpoops]

I would like to formally apologies in behalf of nether for trying to cap yall at relativistic

It genuienly gets to a point bro

 

[MSahla]

Pretty sure both of them are amped by Abyssal Energy which is what bypasses the limit;

You gotta be imbued by Abyssal Energy or any powersource that functions similarly to the Abyssal Energy to even be considered FTL, Abyssal Energy on its own is actually able to bypass the speed limit without requiring Imaginary Energy. Like I said the thread will always be open though if there was ever a moment to merge Imaginary Energy with Abyssal Energy.

1. The fact that you said the Voyager being amped by Abyssal Energy already proves you not knowing any goddamn things about the Voyager in the story, because the Voyager NEVER uses Abyssal Energy in the story WHAT-SO-EVER.

2. The first time Nibelung traveled through the universe wasn't being amped by the Abyss at all, as that is the first time he's doing interstellar travel before getting the forbidden knowledge, or the Abyssal power.

 

[Voidnether]

1. The fact that you said the Voyager being amped by Abyssal Energy already proves you not knowing any goddamn things about the Voyager in the story, because the Voyager NEVER uses Abyssal Energy in the story WHAT-SO-EVER.

2. The first time Nibelung traveled through the universe wasn't being amped by the Abyss at all, as that is the first time he's doing interstellar travel before getting the forbidden knowledge, or the Abyssal power.

What? Voyager literally acknowledged to Nibelung about Abyss, in which Nibelung decided to stay in Teyvat instead BUT SOME TIME LATER HE WENT INTO THE BOTTOMLESS ABYSS, problem is that we still don't know how he's able to do it and I am pretty sure I said that any powersystem that functions similarly to Abyssal Energy is assumed to be able to bypass it

Anything that works similarly to Abyssal Energy works, it means if literal Kuuvahki is shown to bypass the limit then FTL is there, it's that simple. And what problem do we have? Well Kuuvahki at BEST is a speed of light projectile, so there you go. If its shown to be FTL then sure yeah we could treat it similar to Abyssal Energy IN THIS CONTEXT.

 

[Voidnether]

What? Voyager literally acknowledged to Nibelung about Abyss, in which Nibelung decided to stay in Teyvat instead BUT SOME TIME LATER HE WENT INTO THE BOTTOMLESS ABYSS, problem is that we still don't know how he's able to do it and I am pretty sure I said that any powersystem that functions similarly to Abyssal Energy is assumed to be able to bypass it

Anything that works similarly to Abyssal Energy works, it means if literal Kuuvahki is shown to bypass the limit then FTL is there, it's that simple. And what problem do we have? Well Kuuvahki at BEST is a speed of light projectile, so there you go. If its shown to be FTL then sure yeah we could treat it similar to Abyssal Energy IN THIS CONTEXT.

But yeah all of this wouldn't happen if @Mbpoops decided to use a different scan instead of using the Aether Network one which caps every verse in the cosmology to be SoL, and that they had to bypass it using Energy that's able to bypass the speed limit

Y'all can blame him for that, or well we make a CRT to not use the speed cap across all Hoyoverse related verses since I'm pretty sure this is because of him

 

[Mbpoops]

So nether added this note from my old crt about removing possibly h1-C from hsr but the crt had nothing to do with genshin. I dont think he had permission to add this but correct me if im wrong

 

[MSahla]

What? Voyager literally acknowledged to Nibelung about Abyss, in which Nibelung decided to stay in Teyvat instead BUT SOME TIME LATER HE WENT INTO THE BOTTOMLESS ABYSS,

First off, the “secrets” of the cosmos that was told to Nibelung by the Voyager isn't confirmed to be the forbidden knowledge or abyssal power, so let's not pretend it's a legitimate thing.

Second off, even if it is the abyss that the Voyager told Nibelung about, that doesn't mean the Voyager being amped or using any abyssal power whatsoever. And the Voyager in the story were never implied to be able use abyssal energy. In fact, he traveled through the universe because of the abyss slowly makes the universe dying.

problem is that we still don't know how he's able to do it and I am pretty sure I said that any powersystem that functions similarly to Abyssal Energy is assumed to be able to bypass it

No. You said both Nibelung and the Voyager are being amped by Abyssal Energy.

Pretty sure both of them are amped by Abyssal Energy which is what bypasses the limit;

 

[Voidnether]

So nether added this note from my old crt about removing possibly h1-C from hsr but the crt had nothing to do with genshin. I dont think he had permission to add this but correct me if im wrong

The scan literally said speed of light is the absolute limit, HI3, HSR and Genshin being on the same cosmology are affected but since HI3 has HE, HSR has IE and Genshin has Abyssal Energy to bypass the speed cap, it doesn't really matter but you get the point here

 

[Voidnether]

First off, the “secrets” of the cosmos that was told to Nibelung by the Voyager isn't confirmed to be the forbidden knowledge or abyssal power, so let's not pretend it's a legitimate thing.

Second off, even if it is the abyss that the Voyager told Nibelung about, that doesn't mean the Voyager being amped or using any abyssal power whatsoever. And the Voyager in the story were never implied to be able use abyssal energy. In fact, he traveled through the universe because of the abyss slowly makes the universe dying.

No. You said both Nibelung and the Voyager are being amped by Abyssal Energy.

Or those that functions similarly to Abyssal Energy, because that's what the Note is atm

 

[Voidnether]

The scan literally said speed of light is the absolute limit, HI3, HSR and Genshin being on the same cosmology are affected but since HI3 has HE, HSR has IE and Genshin has Abyssal Energy to bypass the speed cap, it doesn't really matter but you get the point here

Like the only conclusion out of this is that Abyssal Energy doesn't have to be merged with Imaginary Energy to bypass the speed limit, that's it since the scan @PedjaTarzan proves that it's able to be bypassed on its own without having to merge and stuff

 

[MSahla]

Or those that functions similarly to Abyssal Energy, because that's what the Note is atm

Elemental Energy can also do that. Because pre-abyssal amped Nibelung had nothing but Elemental Energy power when he traveled through the universe.

 

[Mbpoops]

Elemental Energy can also do that. Because pre-abyssal amped Nibelung had nothing but Elemental Energy power when he traveled through the universe.

Dude

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Genshin_Impact?action=history

 

[Voidnether]

Elemental Energy can also do that. Because pre-abyssal amped Nibelung had nothing but Elemental Energy power when he traveled through the universe.

Yeah I don't mind that, when I talked about other powersource it's mostly about Elemental Energy

I am sure Elemental Energy functions similarly to Abyssal Energy in this context, like that Void Realm statement back in Enkanomiya so ig

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Dude

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Genshin_Impact?action=history

@Voidnether Do not add unnecessary stuff unless it's coming from a crt.

 

[Voidnether]

@Voidnether Do not add unnecessary stuff unless it's coming from a crt.

It's from the possibly H1-C thread, which was accepted by 4 staff members and it had scans that SoL is the absolute speed limit which is the sole reason all of this even happened

(ACCEPTED) Thanks mythus! Removing possibly High 1-C from HSR

Introduction: well that was fast huh new information has come out that basically kills the whole "universe = hi3 imaginary tree" thing. i will start by reviewing a few things addressed in the last thread; i ask you all to read this thoroughly its a rather long readable...

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[Furina003]

Doesn't matter, the only ones exceeding SoL are only those with Abyssal Energy or Abyssal Energy imbued spaceships, other than that they still cap to SoL lmao

Haha, Abyssal energy and light energy are opposing energies from the beginning, and can even destroy each other. If you consider the Abyss to be ftl and light energy not ftl, that's a really funny thing .

For example, considering the Nibelungs to be ftl, and Phanes not ftl, but Phanes can defeat the Nibelungs.

In the case of Octavia, who can travel between galaxies, let's assume it takes 500 years. The last time Octavia was seen was when she met Alice during a witch meeting, when Anya was still alive, which means it happened after the cataclysm.

From Teyvat to another galaxy, for example, it takes 500 years. If we use the distance of the Andromeda Galaxy, which is 2.5 millions light-years, then Octavia's speed could be at least around 5000C.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

It's from the possibly H1-C thread, which was accepted by 4 staff members and it had scans that SoL is the absolute speed limit which is the sole reason all of this even happened

(ACCEPTED) Thanks mythus! Removing possibly High 1-C from HSR

Introduction: well that was fast huh new information has come out that basically kills the whole "universe = hi3 imaginary tree" thing. i will start by reviewing a few things addressed in the last thread; i ask you all to read this thoroughly its a rather long readable...

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As mentioned above by mbpoops, it had nothing to do with genshin.

 

[Voidnether]

It's from the possibly H1-C thread, which was accepted by 4 staff members and it had scans that SoL is the absolute speed limit which is the sole reason all of this even happened

(ACCEPTED) Thanks mythus! Removing possibly High 1-C from HSR

Introduction: well that was fast huh new information has come out that basically kills the whole "universe = hi3 imaginary tree" thing. i will start by reviewing a few things addressed in the last thread; i ask you all to read this thoroughly its a rather long readable...

vsbattles.com

The readable that was given in the CRT acknowledges that 299,792,458 m/s or the speed of light is the absolute speed limit, it was discussed for Honkai that things such as Imaginary Energy, etc were able to bypass it and yeah I'm pretty sure Abyssal Energy (and Elemental Energy since it functions similarly in this context) on its own was discussed to be able to bypass the limit too so that note can stay

 

[Voidnether]

As mentioned above by mbpoops, it had nothing to do with genshin.

It had something to do with Genshin, I mean Honkai and Genshin are the same cosmology, it was accepted as this back in the Garrixian was still around as stated by Castorice

 

[Mbpoops]

It's from the possibly H1-C thread, which was accepted by 4 staff members and it had scans that SoL is the absolute speed limit which is the sole reason all of this even happened

(ACCEPTED) Thanks mythus! Removing possibly High 1-C from HSR

Introduction: well that was fast huh new information has come out that basically kills the whole "universe = hi3 imaginary tree" thing. i will start by reviewing a few things addressed in the last thread; i ask you all to read this thoroughly its a rather long readable...

vsbattles.com

The crt wasnt even about speed though. Or genshin.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Abyssal Energy on its own was discussed to be able to bypass the limit too so that note can stay

Show me how you’re concluding that Abyssal Energy is the same as Imaginary Energy when there’s barely any evidence suggesting they’re even remotely alike in origin, properties, or nature. Just cuz they both share same cosmology doesn't necessarily mean it's same too

 

[Voidnether]

The crt wasnt even about speed though. Or genshin.

But the content of the scan still acknowledges that, unless you wanna make a CRT addressing on why the speed cap shouldn't exist in the first place. But this is how its currently treated sorry

 

[Mbpoops]

The crt wasnt even about speed though. Or genshin.

We actually unilaterally agreed to NOT use this as a speed cap because it would be too much if a hastle to deal with

 

[Mbpoops]

But the content of the scan still acknowledges that, unless you wanna make a CRT addressing on why the speed cap shouldn't exist in the first place. But this is how its currently treated sorry

The speed cap isnt even accepted from that crt so theres no point. You’re making an issue out of nothing

 

[Voidnether]

Show me how you’re concluding that Abyssal Energy is the same as Imaginary Energy when there’s barely any evidence suggesting they’re even remotely alike in origin, properties, or nature. Just cuz they both share same cosmology doesn't necessarily mean it's same too

The possibly H1-C removal acknowledges the scans for the Aether Network, which is where the limit is derived from. You gotta be imbued by Abyssal Energy or any powersource that functions similarly to the Abyssal Energy to even be considered FTL, Abyssal Energy being subset of Imaginary Energy is still on-going but with how its treated currently; Abyssal Energy on its own is actually able to bypass the speed limit without requiring Imaginary Energy. Like I said the thread will always be open though if there was ever a moment to merge Imaginary Energy with Abyssal Energy.

I literally said Abyssal Energy is able to bypass the speed limit ON ITS OWN without having to derive from Imaginary Energy, and the thread where Imaginary Energy = Abyssal Energy is still open with zero staff votes. Currently Imaginary Energy and Abyssal Energy are not the same thing, the scans Woomy sent proves that Abyssal Energy is able to bypass the speed limit ON ITS OWN

 

[Voidnether]

We actually unilaterally agreed to NOT use this as a speed cap because it would be too much if a hastle to deal with

The speed cap isnt even accepted from that crt so theres no point. You’re making an issue out of nothing

The content of the scans are used still, unless you wanna concede the Aether Network scan can't be used / make a CRT so the speed cap doesn't exist anymore because the speed cap doesn't make sense in the first place ANYWAY

 

[Mbpoops]

So then theres no issue…

 

[Mbpoops]

The content of the scans are used still, unless you wanna concede the Aether Network scan can't be used / make a CRT so the speed cap doesn't exist anymore because it doesn't make sense

But thats explicetly not what the OP is arguing for. You did the same thing when adding unconventional precog resistance to acheron when it goes against what the OP is arguing for

 

[Natsuki012]

You know abyssal energy is the opposite of elemental power, right? If one can bypass the speed limit, the other should as well.

 

[Voidnether]

So then theres no issue…

There is an issue;
1. You concede the Aether Network scans can't be used, which requires a CRT anyway
2. Remove the speed cap, which again requires a CRT due to that thread you made

 

[Mbpoops]

There is an issue;
1. You concede the Aether Network scans can't be used, which requires a CRT anyway
2. Remove the speed cap, which again requires a CRT due to that thread you made

The aether network can be used and there is no speed cap.

Genuienly what are you arguing for

 

[Voidnether]

You know abyssal energy is the opposite of elemental power, right? If one can bypass the speed limit, the other should as well.

Elemental Energy can also do that. Because pre-abyssal amped Nibelung had nothing but Elemental Energy power when he traveled through the universe.

Yeah I don't mind that, when I talked about other powersource it's mostly about Elemental Energy

I am sure Elemental Energy functions similarly to Abyssal Energy in this context, like that Void Realm statement back in Enkanomiya so ig

etc were able to bypass it and yeah I'm pretty sure Abyssal Energy (and Elemental Energy since it functions similarly in this context)

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But thats explicetly not what the OP is arguing for. You did the same thing when adding unconventional precog resistance to acheron when it goes against what the OP is arguing for

This one was PROPOSED BY @Vietthai96

 

[Voidnether]

The aether network can be used and there is no speed cap.

Genuienly what are you arguing for

Both are mutually exclusive what are you talking about

 

[Mbpoops]

?

This one was PROPOSED BY @Vietthai96

You can go look in all purpose request thread and vietthai’s profile wall because he denies these claims

 

[MSahla]

But the content of the scan still acknowledges that, unless you wanna make a CRT addressing on why the speed cap shouldn't exist in the first place. But this is how its currently treated sorry

Sorry to say but Genshin's POV aren't like HSR's, as there almost every energies in Genshin can exceeded SoL, not just Abyssal energy.

Like the Voyager. We don't know what power he had when he traveled through the universe, through stars and endless worlds, yet he did managed to travel that much distances in a short timeframe, and even whose mind spans across billions of years.

 

[Mbpoops]

Both are mutually exclusive what are you talking about

No they arent. My crt had nothing to do with sperd point blank period. It was only used to label the universe as 4th dimensional and remove possibly H1-C until further notice. These are not mutally exclusive you’re just trying to find a way to deny the aether network scans

 

[Voidnether]

You can go look in all purpose request thread and vietthai’s profile wall because he denies these claims

Viet literally told you to make a new thread, which is what I'm saying too; Just make a CRT to remove it and address it, this is what I said when you pester me about it like there's no way it's this hard right

 

[Mbpoops]

Viet literally told you to make a new thread, which is what I'm saying too; Just make a CRT to remove it and address it, this is what I said when you pester me about it like there's no way it's this hard right

Now look in all purpose request threads

 

[Voidnether]

Sorry to say but Genshin's POV aren't like HSR's, as there almost every energies in Genshin can exceeded SoL, not just Abyssal energy.

Like the Voyager. We don't know what power he had when he traveled through the universe, through stars and endless worlds, yet he did managed to travel that much distances in a short timeframe, and even whose mind spans across billions of years.

Which is why I added a note that Abyssal Energy and any powersource that functions similarly such as Elemental Energy is able to bypass it, you can add it there to include the Elemental Energy since I don't mind but you get the point

No they arent. My crt had nothing to do with sperd point blank period. It was only used to label the universe as 4th dimensional and remove possibly H1-C until further notice. These are not mutally exclusive you’re just trying to find a way to deny the aether network scans

They are mutually exclusive, you have to make a CRT and address the speed cap that came because of that thread dude

 

[Mbpoops]

Viet literally told you to make a new thread, which is what I'm saying too; Just make a CRT to remove it and address it, this is what I said when you pester me about it like there's no way it's this hard right

Post in thread 'All-purpose request thread (New forum)'
https://vsbattles.com/threads/all-purpose-request-thread-new-forum.107534/post-7752059