Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[Furina003]

60 pulls btw

Is that enough? We don't need to get every new character, gacha is what you need, because the 4-star character in Genshin is also very useful

 

[MSahla]

You will never make me hate the Ancient Dragons in Genshin

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

we just need to be diligent in exploring and completing the existing content

This isn’t actually drastically different from my account it seems. I don’t think I raise as many to level 90 tho

 

[OmniScalator]

That contradicts neuvilette being outside of fate then.

description was something like "even though Neuvillette shouldn't have need for fate yet he got a constellation in sky"

And stars are symbol of fate system of teyvat, which means even if Neuvillette shouldn't "Need" fate, he still had it

 

[Furina003]

This isn’t actually drastically different from my account it seems. I don’t think I raise as many to level 90 tho

I prepared it for imaginary theater, because we need 24 characters to complete lunar mode haha

 

[OmniScalator]

He contradicts his own quote

• Dvalin should still be corrupted and had destroy Mondstandt
• Durin would had revive
• The Vision thing in Inazuma would still be up
• Sangonomiya would still fighting a war
• Balladear wouldnt had delete himself from Irminsul
• Shouki no Kami would be the god of Sumeru
• Narwhal would had flooded Fontaine and eat most citizens
• Mavuika would had die most likely
• Gosoythoth invasion would had succeded
• Natlan abyss would had reach Nod krai and Sumeru
• A remnant of Bakunawa would still be there about to destroy a portion of Natlan
• Columbina wouldnt had been revive
• Omega build would still had 2 soul segments
• The wild hunt would had expanded
• Most of Nod Krai cast would had die

But guess what, there was a something out of script that changed everything, the GOAT, THE 4TH DESCENDER, TUAMANI, HONORARY KNIGHT, HERO OF LIYUE, ENEMY OF ETERNITY, SAGE OF BUER, EXECUTOR OF THE ORATIRE, THE NEW MOON'S BLESSING, THE TRAVELER, AETHER

Traveler was always Part of script, and everything till now have gone as celestia planned

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I prepared it for imaginary theater, because we need 24 characters to complete lunar mode haha

Maybe I should start taking more character to 90 too

 

[MSahla]

description was something like "even though Neuvillette shouldn't have need for fate yet he got a constellation in sky"

And stars are symbol of fate system of teyvat, which means even if Neuvillette shouldn't "Need" fate, he still had it

Still different than normal constellation. All of other constellations are being controlled by Celestia, or Phanes, while Neuvillette's one is outside of that. Neuvillette's Character Story 5 has one of the most blatant Acausality Type 4 feat you could ever see.

Now that he has obtained one part of seven of the authority over the mortal realm, and reforged the throne and title of a "Fully Fledged Dragon," he is one strong enough to equal and rival "the human realm" and logic would dictate that he need not subscribe to this system known as "fate."

Thus did he, in the end, come into his own "fate." The skies had left a special, ennobled place for him, one reserved for the overseers and those who could defy the world itself — that of his own reflection.

—Of course, he was born in the form of a human. But why, then, is his constellation the image of the great leviathan? Well, this leads us to a more mundane explanation for the situation, one quite separate from grave matters of the world's fate

 

[OmniScalator]

Does anyone knows what ability is this? The first thing that came to my mind is the Astral Projection

Kind of Avatar creation

 

[MSahla]

Kind of Avatar creation

Idk about that. Avatar Creation is usually for someone whose true self is noncorporeal

 

[Voidnether]

Is that enough? We don't need to get every new character, gacha is what you need, because the 4-star character in Genshin is also very useful

Only functions if you have their C6

 

[OmniScalator]

It is said that Phanes forged Reason of "essence less emptiness" and got prisoned by it, and phanes is also called Lord of Light

It would be crazy to see that source of Abyss is Phanes itself and got destroyed by it

 

[MSahla]

It is said that Phanes forged Reason of "essence less emptiness" and got prisoned by it, and phanes is also called Lord of Light

It would be crazy to see that source of Abyss is Phanes itself and got destroyed by it

It's not like literal prison or something, but rather that he's bound to Reason or something like that I would say..

 

[Furina003]

Only functions if you have their C6

not really, for example you can use Aino or jahoda in lunar party, and no need for c6, because you only need to upgrade them to level 70. to get lunar party combination

 

[OmniScalator]

It's not like literal prison or something, but rather that he's bound to Reason I would say..

Obviously it is not literal prison, but something like "axed own foot"

 

[MSahla]

Give me the source where it says Phanes' title that he's the Lord of Light

 

[OmniScalator]

Give me the source where it says Phanes' title that he's the Lord of Light

I will need time to find it, there was some text about "lord of light created body for himself, stolen by king of darkness"

Something like that

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

The Primordial Human is not an AI. The Primordial Human is the first creation of the true God. That is why the Primordial Human in genshin is described as being created by the Lord of Light, which could possibly imply the existence of an entity far superior to Phanes.

Bro, Apep explicitly stated that Phanes is the god of all gods.
Phanes was also called the “Lord of Hosts” twice, a title associated with ruling over the Universe itself.

Aria even stated that Phanes was the ruler of the firmament long before he ruled over Teyvat.

So just imagine what the “Lord of Light” would be like if this entity truly exists in Genshin Impact

Primordial humans aren't created by phanes tho? and in fact it is said angels are created by primordial humans. They aren't even part of Humanity lol.

 

[OmniScalator]

Primordial humans aren't created by phanes tho? and in fact it is said angels are created by primordial humans. They aren't even part of Humanity lol.

Furina was trying to say Phanes was Primordial Human, who was created by another entity called "Lord of Light"

Although I don't quite agree

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Furina was trying to say Phanes was Primordial Human, who was created by another entity called "Lord of Light"

Although I don't quite agree

I have heard a theory on twitter but I don't quite agree with it. that the travelers are created by dragons and as far i know the Lord of Light is the Pyro Dragon Sovereign

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I have heard a theory on twitter but I don't quite agree with it. that the travelers are created by dragons and as far i know the Lord of Light is the Pyro Dragon Sovereign

I can see why they’d think this (Traveler has been identified as Xiuhcoatl in Nod Krai) but like, Aether and Lumine are older than all the dragons and their ability to contain the Abyss is something none of the dragons (even Nibelung) coudl safely do

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

I can see why they’d think this (Traveler has been identified as Xiuhcoatl in Nod Krai) but like, Aether and Lumine are older than all the dragons and their ability to contain the Abyss is something none of the dragons (even Nibelung) coudl safely do

Yeah, this is my main dispute too. Age wise they should be older than all the dragons unless teyvat is older than the stars that died and were birthed

 

[Puppet43]

Pfftt, he still reacted to them.

Sahl, not talking about reactions
If u are on a physical contest and ur adversary can push u around easily, he is the stronger

Larping at its finest

I could never defeat u in that field, John Larping Kaisen

Because none of your scans proves anything like you said. You just being headcanon and being over stretched while the statements never meant anything like you said. In another words, you're so forced.

Congrats, they never did.

So invincible ignorat fallacy and twice?!
got u babe

Dr. Data transcend fate or something.

Bro aint affected by Irminsul anymore but somehow that is scribbed in fate?

 

[Puppet43]

Genshin nerds: “SANDRONE'S NEW DESIGN IS ASS”

What is ass is the fact they litterally remove one of her key features to sell us some robot chest
I wanted to Pilot Pulonia and feel like a Jaeger

As Aether enjoyer.. We lost.

I bet we are gonna witness her journey before Aether wakes up

Maybe if Traveler wasn't useless in the meta

Tf u saying useless i use that brosky as main dps

Nahida finally escaping unknown purgatory?

She only blocks an attack of a unquantificable weakend Dottore, so yeah dout she scale to that

 

[MSahla]

Sahl, not talking about reactions
If u are on a physical contest and ur adversary can push u around easily, he is the stronger

Yet he's got cooked eventually?

So invincible ignorat fallacy and twice?!
got u babe

Not really. I have debunk all of your words. I will never let that specifict agenda of yours gets passed, no matter what, for the sake of the verse's scaling itself so it wouldn't be mess.

Bro aint affected by Irminsul anymore but somehow that is scribbed in fate?

Pfft. Do I really have to show you that he still cannot transcend fate even after getting Irminsul's power? Like I don't think that's necessary cause it's so blatant that he isn't. Everybody knows that.

 

[Puppet43]

Traveler was always Part of script

NO? LIKE THE WHOLE DESCENDER CONTEXT IS BEING TRASCENDENT TO FATE, THEY ARENT BOUND TO IT NOR THEIR ACTIONS

 

[MSahla]

NO? LIKE THE WHOLE DESCENDER CONTEXT IS BEING TRASCENDENT TO FATE, THEY ARENT BOUND TO IT NOR THEIR ACTIONS

Meanwhile Aether and Lumine in 5.7 Archon Quest was under Istaroth's scenario where she let them both met.

 

[Puppet43]

Yet he's got cooked eventually?

"Guys, if Sukuna lose to the entire cast of Shinjuku combined that means he was a cooked fodder" ahh quote

Not really. I have debunk all of your words.

U didn't debunk shi, all ur arguments were "i dont like it, it must be not true"

I will never let that specifict agenda of yours gets passed, no matter what, for the sake of the verse's scaling itself so it wouldn't be mess.

Said "Agenda" of mine is quite the equivalent of putting Arlecchino above Hydro Traveler

Everybody knows that.

What may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence

Meanwhile Aether and Lumine in 5.7 Archon Quest was under Istaroth's scenario where she let them both met.

The fact that Istaroth (and possibly Asmoday) interacted with the travelers so they could meet doesn't mean they're in the destination system. You're just larping up, aren't you?

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Pfft. Do I really have to show you that he still cannot transcend fate even after getting Irminsul's power? Like I don't think that's necessary cause it's so blatant that he isn't. Everybody knows that.

tho It was said he was the storm beyond fate tho.

 

[MSahla]

U didn't debunk shi, all ur arguments were "i dont like it, it must be not true"

I did. Basically, what you're doing/whole arguments about those things is entirely unconfirmed interpretation, not definitive evidence nor have you provided the real evidences whatsoever.

Said "Agenda" of mine is quite the equivalent of putting Arlecchino above Hydro Traveler

Quite really. I mean, who's here stupid enough to put the Wanderer and Base Traveler having the same rating as the Shades meanwhile Wanderer not even on the level his mother lore-wise, and Base Traveler who obviously is an absolute fodder compared to the Shades.

What may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence

Well first of all, we should keep this in our mind that resistance to Irminsul ≠ transcending fate. That was never a thing. Nicole seems not being affected by Irminsul, yet she didn't transcend fate. As well as Alice.

If Dottore truly transcended fate in a literal sense, then the deterministic consequences surrounding him should not fully bind him. Yet his segments were erased, his plans collapsed, and his so-called "grandest experiment" ended in failure. He remained subject to causality and outcomes. Even he admitted it.

The fact that Istaroth (and possibly Asmoday) interacted with the travelers so they could meet doesn't mean they're in the destination system. You're just larping up, aren't you?

If external higher authorities (Celestia) can arrange circumstances so both Lumine and Aether meet at a predetermined point, then both of them are still at least partially participating within the world’s causal framework, rather than being utterly disconnected from it.

And if the Traveler were truly completely beyond fate/Celestia in every sense, there would be no reason they could be intercepted nor being separated.

Or.. Should I also mentions to you in the Act 8 of the Nod-Krai Archon Quest the omniscient narrator literally says even the Traveler is still under the test of the rules of the world?

 

[Mbpoops]

 

[MSahla]

Naturally Goatie

 

[MSahla]

Naturally Goatie

Istg this guy voiced by Neuvillette's VA cause i can hear him

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Naturally Goatie

How many times did he Spoke word "Naturally"?

 

[MSahla]

The father's genes ain't even try

 

[Puppet43]

Quite really. I mean, who's here stupid enough to put the Wanderer and Base Traveler having the same rating as the Shades meanwhile Wanderer not even on the level his mother lore-wise, and Base Traveler who obviously is an absolute fodder compared to the Shades.

I didn't put neither at Shade lvl but ok

I did. Basically, what you're doing/whole arguments about those things is entirely unconfirmed interpretation

Unconfirmed interpretation but whole cast and devs saying the same thing

If Dottore truly transcended fate in a literal sense, then the deterministic consequences surrounding him should not fully bind him. Yet his segments were erased, his plans collapsed, and his so-called "grandest experiment" ended in failure. He remained subject to causality and outcomes. Even he admitted it.

Remind u all of this was cause of a variable?

And if the Traveler were truly completely beyond fate/Celestia in every sense, there would be no reason they could be intercepted nor being separated.

So you telling me if Traveler trascendent fate they wouldnt get separated?
Whats the correlation between the 2 points?

the omniscient narrator literally says even the Traveler is still under the test of the rules of the world?

When?

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Also 6.6 finally refuted the whole notion of phanes creating fate to the entire universe.

 

[Puppet43]

Btw, can i ask nicely to all of u to not do a profile about a character that scales to Dendro Traveler/Archons (and between; bassicly 6-C to 6-B)?
The next crt requieres i touch those tiers

 

[Furina003]

Did you know guys, that rhinedottir once sent albedo a letter that spoke of a king of the universe who resided in a shell?

「树为最完美的果实而骄傲,它是如此圆满而无瑕疵.

但是寄宿了梦的种子啊,不要止当果壳中的宇宙之王。」

“The tree takes pride in its most perfect fruit, so complete and flawless.
But you, O seed that carries dreams within, do not remain merely the king of a universe enclosed within a shell.”

This really supports the statement that the shell of the Phanes egg is the universe.

 

[MSahla]

Also 6.6 finally refuted the whole notion of phanes creating fate to the entire universe.

Never claim they created it, but they control it.