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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

Phanes doesn't have absolute strength while Surtalogi is confirmed both by lore and devs to be omnipotent.

Phanes> Surta is biggest cope when it wasobvious it's not the case.
 
Literally bro's reaction to Phanes namedropped

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Phanes doesn't have absolute strength while Surtalogi is confirmed both by lore and devs to be omnipotent.

Phanes> Surta is biggest cope when it wasobvious it's not the case.
There is no omnipotent character in hoyoverse, the only thing that phanes cannot control is human free will, because will power in genshin is very influential with raw power and this desire is the basis for why abyss can enter into those who require phanes to punish them, phanes cannot control human desires/imaginations does not mean he cannot control them, human destiny can still be controlled by phanes but destiny can vibrate if there are humans who have a very strong will, and at that time there was a 2nd descender who made the rebellion possible
 
By the way, I find it intriguing that the Moon Goddesses were able to foresee Koitar and Seutervoinen’s rebellion, yet Phanes knew nothing about it, considering that the punishments for both of them took place 30 days after the War of the Funerary Flame.
 
By the way, I find it intriguing that the Moon Goddesses were able to foresee Koitar and Seutervoinen’s rebellion, yet Phanes knew nothing about it, considering that the punishments for both of them took place 30 days after the War of the Funerary Flame.
Foresee? More like they literally witnessed by theyselves.
"Let me be your sword, your shield, your guide, your unpardonable conspirator in rebellion."
Then did she, most exalted of the angels, bend down and kiss his forehead, as countless icy blooms unfurled on the frigid silver tree.
Yet this moment of betrayal did not go unwitnessed, for at that very moment, the heavenly moons peered down through the cloak of clouds, a longing still more audacious arising within them...
 
Some says Phanes getting tricked was part of Phanes's divine plan
We'll just have to wait for Phanes' perspective, as we've only seen the perspectives of humans, angels, the moon goddess, and dragons. We've never gotten this information from the Heavenly Principles, like Shades and Phanes.
 
Above the rest of the cast. Surtalogi is specifically stated to possesses absolute and ultimate power and this you can't say for any other character not even Phanes and Nibelung.
Many characters are omnipotent or many things are boundless in genshin bruhh

Also don't give vague reply, in which tier exactly do you think omnipotence scales?
 
Many characters are omnipotent or many things are boundless in genshin bruhh
Nothing in Genshin is stated to be boundless or omnipotent except the abyss lmao.

Surtalogi is stated to be the pinnacle of ultimate power, absolute power and the power to crush all things. He even surpassed a power that controlls all creation.

Skirk also said to Childe in her character teaser: "When you've truly mastered tangible weapons, you'll be ready for the next level. Heaven and earth become your blades. All of creation bends to your will. After that, you can follow in my master's footsteps and seek even greater power."
Also don't give vague reply, in which tier exactly do you think omnipotence scales?
I already give you a reply unless you want to appeal to sophistry.
 
They already mentioned Phanes and Heavenly Principles. The only one name/title they didn't mention yet is the “Primordial One”. We need somebody saying it in-universe.
 
Phanes now is considered as the real name.
 
Why the heck is Citlali so busted in abilities, if it werent for her mid tier AP (In the verse) she would litterally do shi a lot of characters
 
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