Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[Furina003]

As I recall, there was a text that explained that only the heavenly gods achieved eternity, but I forgot where I read this, I will look for this text later.

This text actually implies that true immortality is only possessed by the heavenly gods

 

[MSahla]

Yeah, that's the easiest way to beat someone with immo type 1. But negating it is such a rare case. We know type 1 has eternal life, then you got something that negate that eternal life makes you have negation of it, making that person no longer have eternal life.

Like.. Character A cannot die of old age → Character B strips that property → Character A can now age and die normally. That's how Immortality Type 1 Negation works.

 

[Furina003]

Like.. Character A cannot die of old age → Character B strips that property → Character A can now age and die normally. That's how Immortality Type 1 Negation works.

Yes, it is like that, eliminating immortality which is not tied to age, which clearly must be able to give age to its users. so he can die because his age is limited.

Although this kind of ability is not really useful in battle, it is rare for anyone to display negation immortality type 1, because users of immortality type 1 can die from deadly conventional attacks.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Which is the better option nefer, lauma or sigewinne? I do not have enough primos to try them all already failed to` get both lunar dendro charcaters in the last banners so I do not habe hopes for my chance to get them/

 

[MSahla]

Which is the better option nefer, lauma or sigewinne? I do not have enough primos to try them all already failed to` get both lunar dendro charcaters in the last banners so I do not habe hopes for my chance to get them/

Lauma first. Nefer without Lauma is kinda a bum. Sigewinne? Idk if she's that good in 2026. Prefer to not pull for her.

 

[MSahla]

Tartaglia vs Zenitsu

Got bored and decided to make a VS Thread. Is this a good match? Idk, you tell me. Tartaglia: With his Liyue Chapter key Have access to his Foul Legacy form Zenitsu: With his Post-Hashira Training key Rest are: SBA Speed EQ Fight takes place at.. Idk, anywhere? Starting distance is...

vsbattles.com

 

[OmniScalator]

As I recall, there was a text that explained that only the heavenly gods achieved eternity, but I forgot where I read this, I will look for this text later.

This text actually implies that true immortality is only possessed by the heavenly gods

I read somewhere about Raiden being heavenly god, and Orobaxi being earthly god I don't know where I read that tho, been searching that for months

 

[MSahla]

As I recall, there was a text that explained that only the heavenly gods achieved eternity, but I forgot where I read this, I will look for this text later.

This text actually implies that true immortality is only possessed by the heavenly gods

I read somewhere about Raiden being heavenly god, and Orobaxi being earthly god I don't know where I read that tho, been searching that for months

Wiki says most Gods in Teyvat are from Celestia, which is the realm of the gods.

I know that Celestia are the realm of the gods, but idk where did they get the former.

 

[Furina003]

I read somewhere about Raiden being heavenly god, and Orobaxi being earthly god I don't know where I read that tho, been searching that for months

It's possible that the gods don't come from Teyvat.

 

[KochengPutih]

So....i didnt play Genshin from....one year? I stopped at last of Natlan.

And.....I triggered Direidyth quest this early day....and i got feeling....she isnt ended up happy. Am i right?

I still didnt continued the quest rn.

She's too pretty to become regular npc, but too basic to become playable character. Like Chuycu. Thats why i got this feel.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

This randomly popped up on my feed

 

[AsterReal]

 

[Thunderman101]

please just a glance

"To Guide You Through Your Travels" The Guide Vs The Traveler (Roblox Slap Battles Vs Genshin Impact) (1-0-0)

Both Are 7-C Traveler Is In His Liyue Chapter Key Speed Equalized Fight Take Place In Guides Arena SBA For The Rest Who Wins? Guide:Insert_creative_name_here_12 Traveler: Incon:

vsbattles.com

 

[Puppet43]

He's just clashing with Columbina, that doesn't mean he's equal to her. In fact, he's inferior to Columbina. Clashing ≠ equal ≠ superior tier classification.

Why would he be inferior if he only starting to lose once he got jumped by Amped Traveler, Nefer and Flins and they were stealing his Marrows until just the artificial remains?

The fact that you put Moon Marrow Traveler = Aria alone is already that ridiculous, because the Traveler never fully utilize the full power of the moon marrow.

The Moon Marrows are consistently mentioned as the energy source of a Moon Goddess

Did those nsfw canon to the story of genshin?

Yeah, because that Bathouse event

Lumping Istaroth together with Nibelung as just flowery is an oversimplification.

Because it is

Not on the slightest implied to shades level

I would just call this the 007 moments

0 supported feats
0 implications
7 headcanon and 7 times dottore struggles plus mention trying to surpass the four shades that bounds them

So u just invincible ignorant the dev statment

“Once i transcend fate you will become nothing but fodder for my grand experience” ✌

Since when was trascending fate becoming relevant to a destructive tier system?
We have Sinners, who outside of Surtalogi (if i renember correctly) are still bounded by Fate
Alice should be also restained by Fate yet almost get to those lvls
Barbeloth same as Alice

 

[Puppet43]

Fck all of those sinners, give me Heavenly Principles already bruh..

Nah i want big lizards

 

[MSahla]

Why would he be inferior if he only starting to lose once he got jumped by Amped Traveler, Nefer and Flins and they were stealing his Marrows until just the artificial remains?

The Traveler got amped by whose power? Yes, Columbina's power. That means Columbina's amp alone is already stronger than Dottore.

Like, are we even watch the same cutscene where Dottore with his 3 layers shields couldn't hold Columbina's power?


Columbina is obviously stronger than Dottore

The Moon Marrows are consistently mentioned as the energy source of a Moon Goddess

Okay? Where does it says the Traveler ever utilize its full power? He's not like Dottore who after got the Moon Marrows he immediately used its hax such as Time Stop. Yet the Traveler never did any of those.

Yeah, because that Bathouse event

??

Because it is

Not really

So u just invincible ignorant the dev statment

What ignorant? Give me a direct statement where did they mentioned specifically “The Four Shades” rather than those vague ass words (i.e “Level of the gods”)

Since when was trascending fate becoming relevant to a destructive tier system?
We have Sinners, who outside of Surtalogi (if i renember correctly) are still bounded by Fate
Alice should be also restained by Fate yet almost get to those lvls
Barbeloth same as Alice

Because, if you transcend fate, you can change the outcome of fate to whatever you wish. If Dottore manage to transcend fate, then he can choose his own fate and change the outcome where he's destined to win against Columbina and Traveler.

Should i really remind you how struggle Dottore is trying to be on the same level as Shades even after he got the 3 moons power?

 

[Le'garde273]

So u just invincible ignorant the dev statment

Puppet when he misinterpreted the entire section of "god" Statement with zero relevancy and support feats to shade level

"So u just invincible ignorant the dev statment"

Puppet when he saw a confirmed the second lore bomb which every single the contents of it's book have backup and consistentsy in different sources through the entire series, that even the dev themselves confirm it.

"no that's wrong, the dev also wrong"

The amount of cherry picking is insane enough to put me in dead instantly

 

[MSahla]

Yae Miko..

 

[Mbpoops]

 

[MSahla]

 

[MSahla]

“To You, 6000 Years From Now”

 

[MSahla]

8 days left until peak

 

[MSahla]

The last interlude chapter PV was dropped 21 days after the patch released, which is the Gods' Limits back in 5.7. Coincidentally, version 6.6 will be released on the same date as version 5.7 which is 18th but differenth month, the former is May and the latter is June.

And 21 days after that is 9th, which is the date they dropped the Interlude Chapter PV. So, i'm predicting the next Interlude Chapter PV will be on June 9th or at least around that.

 

[AsterReal]

I really don't understand why the Heavenly Principles banned the reading of Before the Sun and the Moon, considering that the entire text portrays it in a rather biased way compared to the true history of Teyvat. But interestingly, the hymns of the Far North portray it in an even less favorable light and even contain references to Nibelung and Seutervoinen, yet I don't see those texts being banned.

 

[MSahla]

I never understood why Before the Sun and The Moon are banned, when they’re mostly propaganda for the Heavenly Principles. But the Hymns of the Far North, which even mention the Nibelungs, aren’t banned.

It's not like knowing Nibelung himself is forbidden, unlike Celestia. Before Sun and Moon obviously forbidden by Celestia cause it contains the history of the world from the beginning, while as we know people like the Shades don't wan't people to know about them.

And the Hymns of the Far North itself never mentioned the name “Nibelung” either.

 

[AsterReal]

It's not like knowing Nibelung himself is forbidden, unlike Celestia. Before Sun and Moon obviously forbidden by Celestia cause it contains the history of the world from the beginning, while as we know people like the Shades don't wan't people to know about them.

And the Hymns of the Far North itself never mentioned the name “Nibelung” either.

There’s an entire hymn dedicated to him. Even if they use an alternative name. Honestly, if you read that book without knowing the story, anyone would think the Heavenly Principles were incredibly good. When Seutervoinen says that even a demon would be horrified by the things he does.

To me, it would make more sense for the book to be banned if it covered events that took place long before the arrival of the Heavenly Principles.

Just for fun, I decided to create something similar to that concept when I thought of it. I finished my version of Before the Sun and the Moon right at the moment of Columbina’s birth.

 

[Voidnether]

I really don't understand why the Heavenly Principles banned the reading of Before the Sun and the Moon, considering that the entire text portrays it in a rather biased way compared to the true history of Teyvat. But interestingly, the hymns of the Far North portray it in an even less favorable light and even contain references to Nibelung and Seutervoinen, yet I don't see those texts being banned.

Mind you, the only Shade who cared about Enkanomiya is Istaroth and Heavenly Principles genuinely thought it was necessary to send down a Celestial Nail to the people of Lang-Gan when there's definitely more ancient nations back in the War of Funerary Flame that actually deserved it. I am sure this is just meant so that their Shades don't act upon empathy anymore, because you have Heavenly Principles actually caring about Forbidden Knowledge yet treats those that's given empathy by their own Shades to be something equal or way worse

 

[MSahla]

and Heavenly Principles genuinely thought it was necessary to send down a Celestial Nail to the people of Lang-Gan

I mean it kinda make sense since the Abyss is literally everywhere so they had to purified it. And so they nailed it.

when there's definitely more ancient nations back in the War of Funerary Flame that actually deserved it.

Such as? There's no “more ancient” nations because Hyperborea, Lang-Gan, Sal Vindagnyr, Arcadia, Delphi Pytho (Enkanomiya) are basically one civilization, hence it's called “Unified Civilization”.

Actually, they all deserved it, since the unified civilization itself was guide and led by the Angels, who then gathered together in one place then fight against the Heavens. Not to mention there's Dragon Sovereigns and Abyssal Nibelung with them. So, it's Heavenly Principles vs the entire world again.

 

[AsterReal]

If the book Before the Sun and the Moon had a section on Seutervoinen, it would go something like this:

The Apostle of the Far North

Once, there was a traveler who crossed the sea of stars, and found this small world under the dominion of the Primordial Master.

It was she who revealed a truth no sky could conceal: that everything in existence was destined to perish,
consumed by the dark mist that devours even the stars.

But the True Sovereign did not accept such a fate. And though he thanked her for her warning… he chose to resist.
Thus, he bid farewell to the traveler,
sealing a promise that would transcend time:
to meet again. But when the traveler returned…
the world she knew had ceased to exist.
The bones of the earth lay chained beneath four invisible shackles.

And the pure light of the sky, once undivided, had fragmented into seven immutable hues.
The Dragon King… had vanished like smoke scattered by the wind. And in his place, the throne of the winged ruler dominated the firmament, reflected in the pale glow of the three moons. Puzzled… yet cautious, the traveler did not immediately challenge the new sovereign.
Instead, she did something forbidden even for her kind:she turned her consciousness inward…
and descended into the world from within.

She took the form of a young man.
She walked among those born of this world,
hiding her origins among mortal faces. And in a city of gold, she listened.
She heard their voices…
their doubts… their disputes, growing ever more intense. For even in the era of greatest splendor,
something had already begun to crack.
Not in the sky… but in the minds of men.

 

[MSahla]

Wtf is wrong with Twitter bro..

 

[Voidnether]

I mean it kinda make sense since the Abyss is literally everywhere so they had to purified it. And so they nailed it.

Such as? There's no “more ancient” nations because Hyperborea, Lang-Gan, Sal Vindagnyr, Arcadia, Delphi Pytho (Enkanomiya) are basically one civilization, hence it's called “Unified Civilization”.

Actually, they all deserved it, since the unified civilization itself was guide and led by the Angels, who then gathered together in one place then fight against the Heavens. Not to mention there's Dragon Sovereigns and Abyssal Nibelung with them. So, it's Heavenly Principles vs the entire world again.

Angels are Envoys of Heavenly Principles though (such as Zibai being emissaries of one) and her being the Daughter of Time, like Heavenly Principles casted down a Celestial Nail on their own envoys and we do know that Lang-Gan isn't fully corrupted by Abyss hence why Zibai still chose to sacrifice herself in the first place. It'd be understandable if it were the Angels who revolted against Heavenly Principles but like what does Zibai do against H.P. That's what I wanna understand

 

[MSahla]

Angels are Envoys of Heavenly Principles though (such as Zibai being emissaries of one) and her being the Daughter of Time, like Heavenly Principles casted down a Celestial Nail on their own envoys

Yeah, until you know the Angels and Dragon Sovereigns were literally gathered in one place to fight against the Heavenly Principles.

Wings brushed against wings in a dry, whispering hiss, for never since creation had so many angels gathered in one place, as if roused by thunderous war drums, beasts long forgotten by the world caught the scent of blood that tainted the divine. From lightless valleys and the far reaches of the outer seas, the most ancient masters of the earth also came forth to answer the call.

"From the suffering ordained by fate, we have forged our own peace. Our great work has already long surpassed Their grace."
'A pale star burns beyond the false firmament, and its very existence proclaims our victory.

'Even in failure new possibilities will arise, for those yet to come are also watching us." 'Behold... The stars shine ever so bright tonight.'

Koitar''s Speech (the First Angel)

"The final war is about to begin, and I already know what it is I seek."

"I would rather freedom, hard-won though it shall be, over the comfort of shackles."

"Either cast Them down from their throne in the heavens and bring Them before a justice beyond this world,.."

"Or be consumed by Their fickle wrath, and perish alongside the eternal fate They have decreed."

"I believe not in everlasting prosperity. Happiness is not a thing that can be designed."

"I believe not in the crown of sevenfold radiance, and nor do I bear any hope that its light truly redeems all.'

"I believe not in songs sung on bended knee, for this world is one that belongs to us."

and we do know that Lang-Gan isn't fully corrupted by Abyss hence why Zibai still chose to sacrifice herself in the first place.

It was never stated that Lang-Gan was not fully corrupted by the Abyss. It would be weird if it is not fully corrupted, because if so then why did they cast down a Celestial Nail? The Abyss brought by Nibelung corrupted the entire world.

but like what does Zibai do against H.P. That's what I wanna understand

Stopping the nail.

 

[MSahla]

 

[MSahla]

Define “Wife”

 

[MSahla]

Raiden Ei vs Mikoshi Chiyo fan animation based on Soul Eater

 

[Puppet43]

The Traveler got amped by whose power? Yes, Columbina's power. That means Columbina's amp alone is already stronger than Dottore.
Like, are we even watch the same cutscene where Dottore with his 3 layers shields couldn't hold Columbina's power?
Columbina is obviously stronger than Dottore

I mean then its a jumping of 2 "20 yottatons" vs 1 "20 yottatons"
Its clear that if u need 2 character of same lvl fighting u, then its either because ur stronger or at worst equal

Okay? Where does it says the Traveler ever utilize its full power? He's not like Dottore who after got the Moon Marrows he immediately used its hax such as Time Stop. Yet the Traveler never did any of those.

Did Dottore need the 3 moons to do that? Yes
Once Bina was gone we can see him struggle to even stand still

Not really

Burden of Proof

Because, if you transcend fate, you can change the outcome of fate to whatever you wish. If Dottore manage to transcend fate, then he can choose his own fate and change the outcome where he's destined to win against Columbina and Traveler.

Should i really remind you how struggle Dottore is trying to be on the same level as Shades even after he got the 3 moons power?

And how does the fact that you transcend Fate mean you're a top tier character in the universe? The Traveler, for example, does it and is currently only considered high tier; there are several characters that completely outclass him. It's a very overpowered ability, but we're talking about destructive power, attack potency.
When I say Dottore is at Shade level, I mean they're comparable in that aspect, not in abilities.

Puppet when he misinterpreted the entire section of "god" Statement with zero relevancy and support feats to shade level

So, my interpretation is considered irrelevant when I use the developer's statement, but if you do it with a book, it's apparently absolute truth, with no need to verify what was previously stated in the verse about the book, etc.? I see.

Puppet when he saw a confirmed the second lore bomb which every single the contents of it's book have backup and consistentsy in different sources through the entire series, that even the dev themselves confirm it.

And u didn't denied the invincible ignorant part
GG ez

 

[AsterReal]

I really can't believe that Dottore is comparable to Columbina when Dottore's power stems from the remnants of two Moon Goddesses stripped of their divinity and from an Artificial Moon Marrow he created himself. He doesn't even demonstrate the ability to manipulate the rules of Teyvat or control fate the way Columbina does as the Trilune Goddess. This means that his true Three Moons authority did not possess all the powers of the Three Moons. In fact, he never used time-stopping again after losing Columbina.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

This peak.

 

[MSahla]

I mean then its a jumping of 2 "20 yottatons" vs 1 "20 yottatons"
Its clear that if u need 2 character of same lvl fighting u, then its either because ur stronger or at worst equal

What is that stas even matter? Lol.
Dottore is neither equal or even stronger, and has shown literally in front of your face that he's weaker than Columbina and Traveler's Amped lol

Did Dottore need the 3 moons to do that? Yes
Once Bina was gone we can see him struggle to even stand still

No, he hasn't even used all 3 moons power yet, he still trapped Bina inside of his cage not using her power yet.

That's because the Iridescent Moon was fighting over him because she don't want to get controlled by him.

Burden of Proof

I've been giving any proof that backing me up, and you're just “nah that's flowery”, which basically just ignorant and refuse to believe.

And how does the fact that you transcend Fate mean you're a top tier character in the universe? The Traveler, for example, does it and is currently only considered high tier; there are several characters that completely outclass him. It's a very overpowered ability, but we're talking about destructive power, attack potency.

Fate is something very very important in Genshin, that almost nobody can escape. Not even the Sinners whose narratively stronger than the Moon Goddess by AP.

If Dottore cannot transcen fate, yeah, good luck him trying to be on the same level as Shades brother, cause he's still bound within the Shades power

As mentioned earlier, his ascension for becoming the false moon god does not attracted the attention of the Shades in the slightest.

When I say Dottore is at Shade level, I mean they're comparable in that aspect, not in abilities.

Oh brother.. Not even really close. You got Nicole's statement saying the three moons are nowhere near them whatsoever. And you got the followers of the Three Moons (Hyperborea) begging for Istaroth to protect their moon goddesses.

Please, the Shades are literally just one level below the Heavenly Principles and that's just because of Hierarchy.

So, my interpretation is considered irrelevant when I use the developer's statement, but if you do it with a book, it's apparently absolute truth, with no need to verify what was previously stated in the verse about the book, etc.? I see.

At least the book has back up to confirm it, not your headcanon basically saying “oh they must refering to this” with absolutely no backup whatsoever.

Nothing says nothing about the book previously. You wanna said about Lauma's statement again? Yeah, we already debunked that. Her statement are never specifically referred to the Hymns of thr Far North, and it is completely out of context.

And we have a backup that the Hyperboreans (which is the one who wrote those prayers) are reliable.

 

[MSahla]

In a random interview

“Mr. Surtalogi, what do you think of your colleague, Ms. Rhinedottir?”
“She's a crazy woman.”