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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

I'm still confused at Zibai's scaling, i know she should be stronger than any adeptus, and she should scale to Zhongli as well.
 
Sahlwrld said:
I'm still confused at Zibai's scaling, i know she should be stronger than any adeptus, and she should scale to Zhongli as well.
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Its a strange case, she should be Nicole lvl by being an angel, but since her power had diminish the best feats she had were Morax lvl
 
Puppet43 said:
Its a strange case, she should be Nicole lvl by being an angel, but since her power had diminish the best feats she had were Morax lvl
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I don't think her power had diminish. Even the devs said even today, when she's purging evil spirits, she can still wield that overwhelming adeptal power. Meaning she's still as strong as she was back then. So we can still scale Zibai to Nicole.
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During the lantern rite before this cutscene, Zibai were LITERALLY dead, and we and Zhongli resurrected her by basically yoinking and combined all of her three souls.
 
Puppet43 said:
Yet zibai itself is featless
Is Ziqiao who does all feats, so at best we can say "Higher" or something like that
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Bruh.. Why are we even forgetting that Ziqiao, and the other selves, are literally Zibai's shades? It's as if saying Phanes cannot be scaled to his own Four Shades.

Zibai were once in her prime as an Angel and the Moon Envoy, which should be a stronger state than whatever Ziqiao is. And now, the current Zibai is the same as she was when she's still an Angel and Moon Envoy.
 
Since we’re on the subject of Zibai, doesn’t Istaroth overstepping his authority over Teyvat by splitting his soul? It seems to me that matters concerning souls are Ronova’s domain, not Istaroth’s.
 
Btw i just scale Barbeloth, she is featless outside of scaling to Mona
AsterReal said:
the threads end up banished beyond the false sky.
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Like the name of the CRT (Casting a celestial nail)
Sahlwrld said:
Ziqiao, and the other selves, are literally Zibai's shades? It's as if saying Phanes cannot be scaled to his own Four Shades.
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Unlike Phanes, Zibai herself has no feats outside of being an angel, yet still angels are wide gaps
Nicole is the prime Angel since she kept her form and powers, so going with that would low key being the high end
 
Puppet43 said:
Do we have any feats of Zibai pre death?
No
Then would be a NLF
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Buddy, do you even know what is NLF?
Theres no way you genuinely think that Ziqiao > Prime Zibai, just because Ziqiao has feats, while you yourself know that Ziqiao is merely one of the Zibai's souls/shades. What those selves doing, their feats, and others are all what Zibai's capable of cause they're from Zibai herself.

Let's say Phanes is featless, and his Four Shades doing something great, maybe like performing Tier 3 feats while Phanes hasn't doing anything. Phanes would still scale to his own Shades and be at Tier 3 as well, cause those women are his own shades.
 
Sahlwrld said:
Theres no way you genuinely think that Ziqiao > Prime Zibai,
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I never said this
Im just saying we shouldn't scale her to the ONLY ANGEL THAT HAS MAINTAIN HER POWER STILL, MEANWHILE EVEN IF ZIQIAO IS A DEADLY SELVES, IT STILL LOST POWER, SO BY LOGIC OF 3 ZIBAI ALSO LOSE SOME PORTION
  • Nicole = Strongest Angel so far
  • Zibai was split into 3 selfs, at least 1 is known to had lost power (We could say same for the other 2, since its not specificated why she lost power; most likely due to curse of Time)
  • If each selves was equally distributed (33%) and each lost some power (lets say 5 for simplicity) that means Zibai would had lost 15%
  • And btw her only consistent scale is to Morax / Azhdaza lvls
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Im not saying Ziqiao > Zibai
Im saying
  • Ziqiao, the one with feats is consistent Archon lvl
  • Zibai is stronger
  • Zibai should just upscale Ziqiao
 
Puppet43 said:
I never said this
Im just saying we shouldn't scale her to the ONLY ANGEL THAT HAS MAINTAIN HER POWER STILL, MEANWHILE EVEN IF ZIQIAO IS A DEADLY SELVES, IT STILL LOST POWER, SO BY LOGIC OF 3 ZIBAI ALSO LOSE SOME PORTION
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Zibai did the same thing, she still maintain her form and powers. Ziqiao lost a little bit of her powers because SHE'S MERELY JUST ZIBAI'S SHADE. Those shades of her were affected by the Erosion.

Zibai Shade's lost a portion of her power, doesn't make the TRUE Zibai also lost of her power. The fact that the devs said she still can unleash an overwhelming level of adeptus power implying that she's still as strong as she was back in the day.

Nicole also said that her memory wasn't as good as back then. Means her power isn't really the same as when she's still an Angel. Maintain power could've just mean that they still had some their powers and not lose them all.
 
Speaking of old Teyvat. I’ll never understand why Nibelung left Teyvat. Whether he went to find Seutervoinen, or to explore the universe, or whatever. When he returned to Teyvat, he brought nothing but disaster. And why did he become corrupted? We already have examples of beings who enter and leave Teyvat without being consumed by the Abyss.
 
AsterReal said:
Speaking of old Teyvat. I’ll never understand why Nibelung left Teyvat. Whether he went to find Seutervoinen, or to explore the universe, or whatever. When he returned to Teyvat, he brought nothing but disaster. And why did he become corrupted? We already have examples of beings who enter and leave Teyvat without being consumed by the Abyss.
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As I recall, in the Morning Star artifact, the moon goddess explained that the Nibelung left the world only to find a way to save their planet from the abyssal disaster predicted by the explorers.
 
Furina003 said:
As I recall, in the Morning Star artifact, the moon goddess explained that the Nibelung left the world only to find a way to save their planet from the abyssal disaster predicted by the explorers.
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And it turned out to be a disaster.
 
AsterReal said:
The Abyss did not exist in Teyvat until the War of the Funerary Flame.
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Yeah, that's what proves why the destiny of the universe is absolute and cannot be denied, just like when someone tries to deny destiny but their actions actually cause destiny to come true, luckily phanes is a descender so he can become the master of destiny itself and save the planet as a whole, the moon goddess even admits it.

A similar thing actually happened to fontaine, where they tried to prevent destiny from coming true, but everything they did actually brought them closer to their predetermined destiny
 
Sahlwrld said:
Ziqiao lost a little bit of her powers
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Lost significatte, enough to make her go to the mountain to recover it
Sahlwrld said:
doesn't make the TRUE Zibai also lost of her power.
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It does, unless u have reliable evidence for it to not be the case
Sahlwrld said:
The fact that the devs said she still can unleash an overwhelming level of adeptus power implying that she's still as strong as she was back in the day.
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Mind u, the weakest adeptis are 2E lvls and the average ones could be 4E lvl. So unleashing overwhelming adeptus powers still could reffear to anything above 4E, that includes Archon Tiers
Sahlwrld said:
Nicole also said that her memory wasn't as good as back then. Means her power isn't really the same as when she's still an Angel. Maintain power could've just mean that they still had some their powers and not lose them all.
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If we go by memory, then Zibai who has amnesia is gonna be Hilichurl tier 😭
 
Puppet43 said:
It does, unless u have reliable evidence for it to not be the case
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That's for you. Nothing implies the current Zibai is weaker just because Ziqiao got weaker.

Puppet43 said:
Mind u, the weakest adeptis are 2E lvls and the average ones could be 4E lvl. So unleashing overwhelming adeptus powers still could reffear to anything above 4E, that includes Archon Tiers
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Bruhhhh..
This doesn't even mean where does she scales to. It's just mean she still have all of her powers.

Puppet43 said:
If we go by memory, then Zibai who has amnesia is gonna be Hilichurl tier 😭
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??
 
After conducting a more in-depth investigation of the Moon's Reflection, the most important aspects of its size and characteristics on a cosmological scale are:

• It is a prison of space-time.

• This prison is separated from Teyvat by barriers.

• It appears to have its own gravity. This is because rock fragments in the area can float freely, and it becomes increasingly difficult for Columbina to walk through the area as she ventures deeper into it. The Moon Goddesses are drawn back to the prison by a gravitational pull.

• Columbina mentions that the place becomes more distorted the further you go into it.

• Time works differently there. Inside this prison, it becomes impossible to perceive time, since even for a Moon Goddess, the concept of “when?” is impossible to grasp.

• Columbina says that the emptiness of the place "stretches on to infinity."

• The prison functions as a container of points in spacetime; everything that enters it becomes trapped at the specific point in spacetime corresponding to the moment of entry. Only a Moon Goddess can move freely into the prison’s past or future.

• The prison is completely sealed. Columbina cannot open a moon gate to escape. Rerir, despite his power from the Abyss, is unable to leave on his own. The prison "binds" the divinity and prevents one Moon Goddess from leaving.
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It seems to me that this place is definitely a Low 2-C space-time.
 
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