Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I mean, Skof became stronger by consuming at least 40% of Skirk's powers. That being said even base Skof was able to hurt Skirk, so yeah should be a 40% amp

I don’t get how this is a 40% amp. Skof stole Skirk’s strength. She recovers but isn’t back to full power. How does this mean the Traveler got a 40% boost via training?

 

[Puppet43]

I don’t get how this is a 40% amp. Skof stole Skirk’s strength. She recovers but isn’t back to full power. How does this mean the Traveler got a 40% boost via training?

• Skof gets stronger once he consumes the power of something
• Skof gets at least 40% of Skirk's powers and amps him
• Skirk its stated as stronger than before
• Traveler litterally fights Amped Skof with Skirk

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

• Skof gets stronger once he consumes the power of something
• Skof gets at least 40% of Skirk's powers and amps him
• Skirk its stated as stronger than before
• Traveler litterally fights Amped Skof with Skirk

But that doesn’t mean Traveler got a 40% buff as we have no clue how strong Traveler was relative to Skirk before hand. On top of that we have no real way of knowing how Traveler scales relative to berfed Skirk who was already able to face Skof

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Why is Ei’s lifting strength scaled off Shenhe but Zhongli isn’t? Same with Xiao. His AP scaling mentions Shenhe but not his LS

 

[Puppet43]

But that doesn’t mean Traveler got a 40% buff as we have no clue how strong Traveler was relative to Skirk before hand. On top of that we have no real way of knowing how Traveler scales relative to berfed Skirk who was already able to face Skof

I think ur confussing urself, Traveler only fights with Skirk when she has an amp and therefore Skof is also amped
- Skirk post amp => Traveler Training >= Skof Amp > Skirk Base >= Skof Base >= Traveler Natlan
This should clerificate things

In his first encounter against Skofnungr, Skirk states they should hold back to see what their enemy is capable of; He was later sure of being able to take down amped Skofnungr, only backing down because he felt Skirk or Paimon could get heavenly injured; was able to harm amped Skofnungr while not holding back. Stated to not being less than Skirk

So bassicly we have

• Traveler and Skirk holding back against Base Skof
• Traveler being sure of taking down amp Skof but just backing down once he realize he could put Skirk or Paimon in danger
• Later he and skirk were cooking bro
• And the entire narrative of the quest is Traveler not being less than Skirk

All this points just put Traveler post skirk training scaling to her in some capacity

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I think ur confussing urself, Traveler only fights with Skirk when she has an amp and therefore Skof is also amped
- Skirk post amp => Traveler Training >= Skof Amp > Skirk Base >= Skof Base >= Traveler Natlan
This should clerificate things

So bassicly we have

• Traveler and Skirk holding back against Base Skof
• Traveler being sure of taking down amp Skof but just backing down once he realize he could put Skirk or Paimon in danger
• Later he and skirk were cooking bro
• And the entire narrative of the quest is Traveler not being less than Skirk

All this points just put Traveler post skirk training scaling to her in some capacity

So where does this state that Traveler got a 40% buff from training?

 

[Tyranno223]

5B to all Archon tiers because of a statment that say Zibai (angel) = Morax

That's from before Gnosis existed right? Finally, base Zhongli buff.

 

[DaReaperMan]

• 5B to all Archon tiers because of a statment that say Zibai (angel) = Morax (Archon)

5-B? Oh... You shouldn't have...

 

[Bossbrosish]

5B to all Archon tiers because of a statment that say Zibai (angel) = Morax (Archon)

I personally don't really agree with this. Zhongli wasn't an archon yet when he met Zibai and dueled against her (I doubt they were actually going all out in a fight). I also feel this is going to make the scaling worse, because then we'll have to give Dvalin, Azhdaha, and Durin 5-B too which doesn't sit right to me, especially since Dvalin was 4-A once in both his keys and was the first boss enemy we've ever faced and the traveler faced Azhdaha before Nod-Krai. The constant back scaling is tiring to me, because then we'll have Flins and Ineffa at a potential 5-B rating too just because the can fight beside the Nod-Krai Traveler.

I'm not against 5-B Genshin since we have the feats for it now, just make the scaling make sense instead of just back scaling the hell out of it.

 

[Tyranno223]

I personally don't really agree with this. Zhongli wasn't an archon yet when he met Zibai and dueled against her (I doubt they were actually going all out in a fight).

It's rather blatant in saying he was a "rival to the divine" in power despite not being of the "angelic race", aka power to rival the angels.

Though they didn't actually duel, they just planned on it. But regardless, Zibai clearly considered him a rival in that area considering the desire to duel and the above wording.

 

[Puppet43]

So where does this state that Traveler got a 40% buff from training?

Dude, i already explain ur ahh
If the enemy gets 40% stronger and traveler matchs him that means is also was 40% stronger than natlan self

because then we'll have to give Dvalin, Azhdaha, and Durin 5-B

U acting as if Durin in his playable form wasn't tanking Rerir's power trought his body without exploting. I think that should count as a dura feat
Durin playable was stated to be equal to Durin OG
"How powerfull is Rerir?" u may ask, well that bro most likely would scale to 10% of a 5A feat. Which would be 2.0 Yottatons, so yeah even without this 5B feat. Durin, Venti and Dvalin had guarentee tier 5 scaling

because then we'll have Flins and Ineffa at a potential 5-B rating too just because the can fight beside the Nod-Krai Traveler.

Thats the whole point of a chain scale
Character A (Traveler) can fight Villain A (Rerir or 11th Sovereing Ruler), then Character B can help them, so yeah

5-B? Oh... You shouldn't have...

959 Zettatons

 

[Puppet43]

But regardless, Zibai clearly considered him a rival in that area considering the desire to duel and the above wording.

Also most likely Zibai was the 3rd unknown adeptus which help morax against Adzhada

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Dude, i already explain ur ahh
If the enemy gets 40% stronger and traveler matchs him that means is also was 40% stronger than natlan self

That is not how that works. How strong is pre training Traveler relative to Skofnungr? Traveler didn’t even beat Skof 1v1

 

[Puppet43]

That is not how that works. How strong is pre training Traveler relative to Skofnungr?

I never once said pre training (Natlan) was relative to Skof

Traveler didn’t even beat Skof 1v1

In his first encounter against Skofnungr, Skirk states they should hold back to see what their enemy is capable of; He was later sure of being able to take down amped Skofnungr, only backing down because he felt Skirk or Paimon could get heavenly injured

Dont ask genshin players to read ig.
Btw at the time of this statments Traveler already was in his Training Key

 

[Thunderman101]

supporters would be appreciated

"A Guiding Traveler" The Guide Vs The Traveler (Roblox Slap Battles Vs Genshin Impact)

Both Are 7-C Traveler Is In His Liyue Chapter Key Speed Equalized Fight Take Place In Guides Arena SBA For The Rest Who Wins? Guide: Traveler: Incon:

vsbattles.com

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

I just hope, that its what I am waiting for all these years.

 

[RoninSlayer200]

Genshin anime vs GTA 6. Who comes first

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I never once said pre training (Natlan) was relative to Skof


Dont ask genshin players to read ig.
Btw at the time of this statments Traveler already was in his Training Key

So again where is the 40% buff for Traveler coming from.

Ironic you say this when you deny something I never said in the first place

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Idk what Gianny gonna pull, but as a base

• 5B to all Archon tiers because of a statment that say Zibai (angel) = Morax (Archon)
• Higher 5B to Skirk, Skof and maybe Traveler post Skirk training because there a canon 40% amp from previous tier
• There also a 5A Bina feat that would affect Shades, Sinners, Sovereigns, Phanes, Nibelung and Tri-lune gods (Bina/ttore) because there a statment saying Dottore has reach the power of higher gods in the livestream

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

She looks so good, hope she becomes a playable character in the future

Twt complainif abour this lmao

 

[Furina003]

Do you think that is it okay to upgrade Immortality (type 5) and Resistance(or Immunity) to Spacetime Manipulation for Ronova/Istaroth/Asmoday/Naberius/Rhinedottir?
Source: https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Where_Our_Space_and_Time_Intersect

Perhaps, i think this is Type 1 nonduality, as it transcends life and death.

I'm a bit disappointed that Ronova, who can grant immortality, doesn't possess it.

The curse of immortality even grants Types 1, 2, 3, 5, and 8 immortality, as well as mid-godly regeneration. But Ronova only has Type 1 immortality, which is a bit funny to me.

Sandrone also explained that the three moon goddesses don't possess life or death. Does this meet the ND1 standard? Yeah, I'm not entirely sure, but it requires a CRT to add this, and I'm really too lazy to even make one. Lol

 

[Puppet43]

So again where is the 40% buff for Traveler coming from.

Dude, i already told u
SKOF, SKOF, SKOF , SKOFNUGR

• Skof base = weak
• Skof steals Traveler power = Becomes archon lvl (At least)
• Skirk pre awakening is stated to be slighty stronger than Traveler Pyro
• Skof steals 40% of Skirk's powers
• Skirk and Traveler post training can give Amped Skof a run for his money

THEY ARE GOD DAMN UPSCALING ARCHON TIER BY 40%. IF ARCHONS WERE 100 TERATONS, THEN SKOF AMPED, SKIRK POST AWAKENING AND TRAVELER POST TRAINING WOULD BE 140 TERATONS

 

[DaReaperMan]

Dude, i already told u
SKOF, SKOF, SKOF , SKOFNUGR

• Skof base = weak
• Skof steals Traveler power = Becomes archon lvl (At least)
• Skirk pre awakening is stated to be slighty stronger than Traveler Pyro
• Skof steals 40% of Skirk's powers
• Skirk and Traveler post training can give Amped Skof a run for his money

THEY ARE GOD DAMN UPSCALING ARCHON TIER BY 40%. IF ARCHONS WERE 100 TERATONS, THEN SKOF AMPED, SKIRK POST AWAKENING AND TRAVELER POST TRAINING WOULD BE 140 TERATONS

So again where is the 40% buff for Traveler coming from.

 

[Mbpoops]

So again where is the 40% buff for Traveler coming from.

Imaginary energy

 

[AsterReal]

Perhaps, i think this is Type 1 nonduality, as it transcends life and death.

I'm not really sure about this.

I'm a bit disappointed that Ronova, who can grant immortality, doesn't possess it.

The curse of immortality even grants Types 1, 2, 3, 5, and 8 immortality, as well as mid-godly regeneration. But Ronova only has Type 1 immortality, which is a bit funny to me.

I really don't know if she should qualify for those forms of immortality. The Power Bestowal page mentions that a character cannot always grant power to themselves, even when they are capable of granting it to another person.

Sandrone also explained that the three moon goddesses don't possess life or death. Does this meet the ND1 standard?

Only Immortality Type 5, in my opinion.

 

[Tsubasa16]

I also feel this is going to make the scaling worse, because then we'll have to give Dvalin, Azhdaha, and Durin 5-B too which doesn't sit right to me, especially since Dvalin was 4-A once in both his keys and was the first boss enemy we've ever faced and the traveler faced Azhdaha before Nod-Krai.

There is nothing wrong in giving Azhdaha 5-B because of this tho? In fact Azhdaha's profile just needs to be updated (but that apparently requires a crt)

The weakened eroded version of Azhdaha (remember, Zhongli never even saw prime Azhdaha) that Archon Zhongli sealed with extreme help back then was literally confirmed by Zhongli himself to be stronger than he was (he also says that even using his full power just trying to fight him was a significant struggle) and even sealing him required himself being willing to be sealed, and this version of Zhongli is much stronger than his pre-archon version of which is relative to Angels.

And about the evil half of Azhdaha we fought in Liyue not only was he further weakened by being sealed and split, the good half was buffing the Traveler and Zhongli during that fight.

 

[BronyaIsTheBest]

Minor Upgrade for Four Shades( Genshin Impact)·

Four Shades themselves transcend boundaries that govern the reality(Space - Time - Life - Death), so they should be qualifed for Immortality(type 5) and Resistance(or maybe Immunity) to Space Manipulation, Time Manipulation, Life Manipulation and Death Manipulation Source: (1:03:39 - 1:04:40)...

vsbattles.com

 

[Tyranno223]

The weakened eroded version of Azhdaha (remember, Zhongli never even saw prime Azhdaha) that Archon Zhongli sealed with extreme help back then was literally confirmed by Zhongli himself to be stronger than he was (he also says that even using his full power just trying to fight him was a significant struggle) and even sealing him required himself being willing to be sealed...

Pretty sure this was already handled by a CRT but Zhongli isn't flatout weaker than Azhdaha.

Both characters say the other is stronger than them so neither is a good source for that.

So it's more like they're jusr vaguely comparable if not equal.

 

[Tsubasa16]

Both characters say the other is stronger than them so neither is a good source for that.

So it's more like they're jusr vaguely comparable if not equal.

Ah, i figure this is refering to this line:
"All life is shaped and then ground away by the endless flow of time. You were always the strongest among us, yet it would seem that even you have been eroded..."

But iirc that is a actually kinda a bad translation from CN, it's meant to mention Zhongli having specifically the "strongest will/strongest spirit" among them (instead of just saying "strongest" like EN does), it's not refering to power but about having the strongest spirit/will in context of enduring the passage of time/erosion (essentially, "strongest of mind"), which is what Azhdaha was taking about in that dialogue, even in EN you can still kinda get that from the full context of the phrase.

 

[Furina003]

I'm not really sure about this.

I really don't know if she should qualify for those forms of immortality. The Power Bestowal page mentions that a character cannot always grant power to themselves, even when they are capable of granting it to another person.

Only Immortality Type 5, in my opinion.

type 5 immortality is the absence of death, but they are not only not dead, they are neither dead nor alive, because they transcend those 2 aspects. which means they have violated 1 duality system, and violated the logic of the state of not being alive and not being dead, yeah but I'm not sure myself, maybe I'll make a CRT to make sure, but now I'm really lazy to make a CRT haha

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Let's go chat

 

[Furina003]

Let's go chat

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

My reaction literally

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Dude, i already told u
SKOF, SKOF, SKOF , SKOFNUGR

• Skof base = weak
• Skof steals Traveler power = Becomes archon lvl (At least)
• Skirk pre awakening is stated to be slighty stronger than Traveler Pyro
• Skof steals 40% of Skirk's powers
• Skirk and Traveler post training can give Amped Skof a run for his money

THEY ARE GOD DAMN UPSCALING ARCHON TIER BY 40%. IF ARCHONS WERE 100 TERATONS, THEN SKOF AMPED, SKIRK POST AWAKENING AND TRAVELER POST TRAINING WOULD BE 140 TERATONS

Yeah no. Skofnungr didn’t become archon level just because he stole the Traveler’s power. It was from everything else he stole. We don’t know how much power Traveler added to him or even how much power he stole.

Traveler and Skirk jumped him. This still doesn’t suggest a 40% boost from training.

 

[EddisherSound]

Genshin anime vs GTA 6. Who comes first

Both would come out before Komi Can't Communicate Season 3

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Both would come out before Komi Can't Communicate Season 3

Me who completed komi can't communicate manga.

 

[EddisherSound]

Me who completed komi can't communicate manga.

God, I wanna reread it again one of these days

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

God, I wanna reread it again one of these days

Try Tune in to the midnight heart it's very good.

 

[EddisherSound]

Try Tune in to the midnight heart it's very good.

Reading the synopsis from Wikipedia, it does sound good, I'll give it a read one day

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Reading the synopsis from Wikipedia, it does sound good, I'll give it a read one day

You can watch anime too if u want, it's currently airing.