Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[MSahla]

You guys talk about the Traveler's skin description, but it never mentioned Phanes whatsoever, i've read them already.

 

[oberon]

You guys talk about the Traveler's skin description, but it never mentioned Phanes whatsoever, i've read them already.

We are guessing that the Ai is Hp but i doubt it

 

[MSahla]

Columbina's Constellation is just her name, just like Neuvillette! She will get Acausality 4 with this one.

 

[OmniScalator]

Columbina's Constellation is just her name, just like Neuvillette! She will get Acausality 4 with this one.

Her constellation stars are crescent moon shaped too for some reason

 

[MSahla]

Her constellation stars are crescent moon shaped too for some reason

Yeah.. Because she can also manipulate fate.

 

[MSahla]

Which one is better for Columbina's Key names, y'all decided.

Option A:​

Option B:

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[AsterReal]

Which one is better for Columbina's Key names, y'all decided.

Option A:​

Option B:

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I would choose option a. But I would change the first key to "Weakened Moon Goddess."

 

[MSahla]

But I would change the first key to "Weakened Moon Goddess."

I think that's too long, just Weakened is fine.

 

[AsterReal]

I think that's too long, just Weakened is fine.

Ok.

 

[Mizuki67]

There is one more day left before the update. Good Luck to those who pull for Columbina / Ineffa / both

 

[Voidnether]

Which one is better for Columbina's Key names, y'all decided.

Option A:​

Option B:

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B

 

[MSahla]

I kinda want to create a CRT to add new Abilities after we finished 6.3 Archon Quest so i can publish Columbina's profile. It's not that hurry anyway.

@Le'garde273 @Furina003 and I will work together about this.
And you @AsterReal, you said before that you want to find new abilities too? If you find any, just DM me.

 

[MSahla]

So i've had this theory before

 

[MSahla]

So i've had this theory before

My theory before:

Another thing too is.. I think Luonnotar is Columbina from the past. She's literally always with Columbina, even in her gameplay. Like, she went through the moon gate and then a fragment of her exist in different form as Luonnotar, similar to how Cyrene became Mem and she lost all of her memories. The reason of why i said that is when we first met Luonnotar, she kissed the Traveler's forehead and i was like "oh thats a little weird, like wth? That seems kind of interesting way for someone you just met for the first time (allegedly)". But if it is Columbina's fragment who turned into Luonnotar–cause they said that this Luonnotar was blessed by the Frost Moon Goddess, but now that.. Columbina went through the moon gate and going back in time, maybe she blessed this Luonnotar with her essence or soul or something to allow herself to carry on in the future.

So, basically, Columbina indirectly kissed us lmao.

 

[Voidnether]

My theory before:

So, basically, Columbina indirectly kissed us lmao.

I lowkey thought you were high back then

Though this is just Finality stuff honestly

 

[MSahla]

I lowkey thought you were high back then

Though this is just Finality stuff honestly

Not at all, that thing proves even more that Istaroth is literally Time itself. Once you understand what that line about "the end of time" is actually doing, it directly destroys the claim that Hymns of the Far North is unreliable. Teyvat’s timeline begins at the point where it is anchored into Istaroth, that also means that Teyvat is a world that exist "inside" of Istaroth.

 

[MSahla]

Like i still don't get it why people being denial about Istaroth is Time itself or the Embodiment of Time. Like the game have always treated her to be like that, even since the game introduced her in 2.4 which is in Before Sun and Moon.

 

[Voidnether]

Not at all, that thing proves even more that Istaroth is literally Time itself. Once you understand what that line about "the end of time" is actually doing, it directly destroys the claim that Hymns of the Far North is unreliable. Teyvat’s timeline begins at the point where it is anchored into Istaroth, that also means that Teyvat is a world that exist "inside" of Istaroth.

But then it boils down to the entire Finality stuff back in the CM1 downgrade where Finality is time itself but time existed before Finality

Though about that one, I'd argue the concept of time itself weren't created before Finality existed given Finality is the concept of time, what this means is that time as a dimensional axis/aspect already existed before Finality given all Herrschers inherent abilities is to manipulate Time which is stated to be the past, present and future but at the same time they're just projections of Finality (concept of time) lol

 

[MSahla]

Can we look at Teyvat planet again? If you see, Natlan is small in the game's map, but in here, we can see Natlan have two time zones or some shit.

 

[Voidnether]

I don't see it for Istaroth though where she's stated to be the concept of time directly, and it was proven that time as a dimensional axis/aspect existed before Istaroth since like Wenut only talks about concept of time not existing in Teyvat or if Istaroth were created alongside time as a dimensional axis/aspect

 

[MSahla]

But then it boils down to the entire Finality stuff back in the CM1 downgrade where Finality is time itself but time existed before Finality

Though about that one, I'd argue the concept of time itself weren't created before Finality existed given Finality is the concept of time, what this means is that time as a dimensional axis/aspect already existed given all Herrschers inherent abilities is to manipulate Time which is stated to be the past, present and future but at the same time they're just projections of Finality (concept of time) lol

Isn't the concept of time in each leaf worlds are different?

 

[Voidnether]

Isn't the concept of time in each leaf worlds are different?

The problem is that it doesn't talk about Leaf Worlds, it talks about the 3 realms (Sea of Quanta, Imaginary Space and Imaginary Tree) but SoQ is devoid of time entirely, then Imaginary Space is also devoid of one but there's like Imaginary Space that has their time nonlinear so yeah, if it talks about Leaf Worlds then Istaroth would be CM2 since she covers the Genshin's leaf world entirely

 

[MSahla]

I don't see it for Istaroth though where she's stated to be the concept of time directly, and it was proven that time as a dimensional axis/aspect existed before Istaroth since like Wenut only talks about concept of time not existing in Teyvat or if Istaroth were created alongside time as a dimensional axis/aspect

Her statements like "Time itself" from Venti + how the game explained the essence/whatness of her is enough to proves Istaroth being literal Time itself.

“You who in the moment of your birth, also gave birth to yourself…
You are the one stillness within the endless flow.”

This statements is exactly how a temporal boundary behaves.
A thing inside time has a before and after.
But Time itself cannot have a before so it must be self-originating.

If she were merely a time-manipulating deity, this language would make no sense.
A controller of time can be born inside time.
Time itself cannot.

And now that leaks of her even more confirming she's time itself, where it said "You wonder what lies at the end of her road. Well, just as the world has a beginning and an end, so too does time... and so, the end of the road is the moment that Teyvat was born."
This sentences directly referring Istaroth as Time itself. And as i have already explained before:
basically, Istaroth is the Big Bang of time, but it's not like an explosion type shit but a self-originating temporal singularity.
That is why she was called "never born, never die" yet also "gave birth to herself", because she is the point where time begins, so she cannot be inside what she creates. So the line about Teyvat’s birth is not random lore, it is quietly pointing to Istaroth’s domain which is the absolute temporal origin of the world.

“The end of time is the moment Teyvat was born” it means Teyvat’s timeline begins at the point where it is anchored into Istaroth. That point is its temporal zero. If we use an Analogy, Istaroth is the endless temporal ocean and Teyvat is a river that starts flowing from one point in it.

if it talks about Leaf Worlds then Istaroth would be CM2 since she covers the Genshin's leaf world entirely

Hence why i gave her CM2 because She literally covers Genshin's Universe.

 

[Voidnether]

Her statements like "Time itself" from Venti + how the game explained the essence/whatness of her is enough to proves Istaroth being literal Time itself.


This statements is exactly how a temporal boundary behaves.
A thing inside time has a before and after.
But Time itself cannot have a before so it must be self-originating.

If she were merely a time-manipulating deity, this language would make no sense.
A controller of time can be born inside time.
Time itself cannot.

And now that leaks of her even more confirming she's time itself, where it said "You wonder what lies at the end of her road. Well, just as the world has a beginning and an end, so too does time... and so, the end of the road is the moment that Teyvat was born."
This sentences directly referring Istaroth as Time itself. And as i have already explained before:
basically, Istaroth is the Big Bang of time, but it's not like an explosion type shit but a self-originating temporal singularity.
That is why she was called "never born, never die" yet also "gave birth to herself", because she is the point where time begins, so she cannot be inside what she creates. So the line about Teyvat’s birth is not random lore, it is quietly pointing to Istaroth’s domain which is the absolute temporal origin of the world.

“The end of time is the moment Teyvat was born” it means Teyvat’s timeline begins at the point where it is anchored into Istaroth. That point is its temporal zero. If we use an Analogy, Istaroth is the endless temporal ocean and Teyvat is a river that starts flowing from one point in it.


Hence why i gave her CM2 because She literally covers Genshin's Universe.

What I meant to say is that it doesn't clarify, that if Istaroth is time as an aspect or a concept, you can't have both since aspect here is linked with time as the 4th dimension more unless Istaroth is both of these

Iirc Istaroth not being CM2 mainly is because she doesn't cover the entire Honkaiverse according to Vietthai so you have that, I remember him saying it cannot be both though (since if Istaroth is time as the 4th dimension, its tangible hence it can't be concepts and vice versa)

 

[MSahla]

What I meant to say is that it doesn't clarify, that if Istaroth is time as an aspect or a concept, you can't have both since aspect here is linked with time as the 4th dimension more unless Istaroth is both of these

It doesn't need to like specifically said "She's the concept of time itself". It's not that necessary. The game have always treated her as Time itself Literally, like across every moments, remembers everything in every moments, she gave birth to herself, she doesn't bound by linear of time and causality, and so on. All that stuffs is not an attributes of a normal people, that only works if the being time itself.

You have to clock it, like "oh they trying to say this", " If we gather these things then the conclusion would be like this", type shit.

Iirc Istaroth not being CM2 mainly is because she doesn't cover the entire Honkaiverse according to Vietthai so you have that

Someone already explained that you can have multiple universal laws/concepts in that thread, and Vietthai agree with that.

 

[Le'garde273]

For the sake of heavenly principles and aeons

Please put aside genshin in honkai and vice versa

 

[MSahla]

Columbina literally the youngest sister

In that moment, Columbina suddenly understood the choices her three elder sisters had made. Rather than seeking to "rule," what they had wanted most was simply to "protect" this world beneath the moon.
Could she say that she was their little sister, after all? The thought brought a sweet sense of harmony.
It felt almost like an inherited trait, or perhaps a "family tendency" moon goddesses had.
A warm feeling rose in Columbina's heart at the thought. She seemed to have again discovered something she had longed for:
The bonds and legacy shared among family.

 

[MSahla]

And just like that.. They forgot about Inazuma again.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

And just like that.. They forgot about Inazuma again.

Dottore focused quest, if its redemption arc im nuking the universe IRL

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

That's what im sayin

The AQ does confirms phanes came with traveler spaceship tho

 

[oberon]

The AQ does confirms phanes came with traveler spaceship tho

Where?

 

[Furina003]

The AQ does confirms phanes came with traveler spaceship tho

phanes never used a spaceship, He is the original god, who was born as a god from a cosmic egg.
even before coming to teyvat, he was already called the lord of hosts, which means the ruler of all the armies of the universe

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Where?

Spoiler

 

[Le'garde273]

Spoiler

Tetromino...
If i can have a single mora everytime how bad you interpreted something

Everyone would call me pantalone from now

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Spoiler

So Columbina have the authority of 3 moons and is essentially shade+ level stronger than dottore and should be stronger than rerir

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

My queen

*our

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

Dottore focused quest, if its redemption arc im nuking the universe IRL

Why

 

[MSahla]

Spoiler

So Columbina have the authority of 3 moons and is essentially shade+ level stronger than dottore and should be stronger than rerir

Ain't nowhere near shade level.

 

[MSahla]

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Ain't nowhere near shade level.

She definitely is, it is plenty of times confirmed by dottore and others that he is shade level or even above it and columbina scales to him.

So H.P>Nibelung >Columbina >=Shades>Rerir