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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

Sahlwrld said:
Gimme the scan
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what uf its mid godly for rerir bc he brougjt himself back when he was a phantom n rerir was a manifestation of the abyss like u guys said n the abyss has nonexistent physiology bc it has no form n soul so rerir has mid godly healing-
 
FentyBeauty said:
what uf its mid godly for rerir bc he brougjt himself back when he was a phantom n rerir was a manifestation of the abyss like u guys said n the abyss has nonexistent physiology bc it has no form n soul so rerir has mid godly healing-
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Hmm.. We need to find thr scan that he can regenerate his soul, mind and body for that.
 
Sahlwrld said:
Hmm.. We need to find thr scan that he can regenerate his soul, mind and body for that.
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But anyway, he's now completely an abyssal being, ofc he's soulless and lifeless, much like gosoythoth.

Rerir's phantom form is also like that. At his phantom form, thats only his will.
 
wait so did he not get his actual physical form back then

like i’m talking abt after he got shot by the kuuvahki cannon thing n he was not a phnatom anymore
 
Sahlwrld said:
He said THAT body is disappointment.
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sahl i’m like actually so slow n confused rn

r u basically saying his healing was like not complete bc he didn’t have body positivify

bc i’m thinking he still got his body back but it’s just bad bc he’s not as strong as he was before so thats like why i was also thinking it could count as either one of the godly regens or idk
 
This is what the sinners originally look like. They don't have physical form, not having any form just pure abyssal energy.
 
FentyBeauty said:
sahl i’m like actually so slow n confused rn

r u basically saying his healing was like not complete bc he didn’t have body positivify

bc i’m thinking he still got his body back but it’s just bad bc he’s not as strong as he was before so thats like why i was also thinking it could count as either one of the godly regens or idk
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If you confused, what abt me?
 
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Upgrade Sinners and Shades (GENSHIN IMPACT)

[TIER H3A — SHADES, SOVEREIGN, DAN SINNERS] Surtalogi is said to have the ability to envelop the entire universe with abyssal energy. As Surtalogi explains, tree are analogous to civilisation, forest are analogous to the universe, and the Genshin universe itself has been described as infinite...
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Let Surtalogi and Istaroth cook, bro 😂
 
I noticed on Furina profile, it's stated she comparable to Amber and Bennett, so.... Shouldn't that mean they would be 8-A too?
 
Furina003 said:
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Upgrade Sinners and Shades (GENSHIN IMPACT)

[TIER H3A — SHADES, SOVEREIGN, DAN SINNERS] Surtalogi is said to have the ability to envelop the entire universe with abyssal energy. As Surtalogi explains, tree are analogous to civilisation, forest are analogous to the universe, and the Genshin universe itself has been described as infinite...
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Let Surtalogi and Istaroth cook, bro 😂
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Buns CRT, never cook again
 
Sahlwrld said:
Nahh.. I like that more, it has more Aura. The second one is also official btw, its an official screenshot.
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The formatting looks ass on mobile. I’d still say just use the drip marketing

Furina003 said:
by the way, why did CM2 become Limited? was there a previous CRT downgrade for cm2 leyline?
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This ain’t even CM2, nor should the Shades qualify either honestly. I might genuinely have to purge it like I did with HSR because this is the same shit of confusing IM2 with CM lel
 
Super_Nova said:
This ain’t even CM2, nor should the Shades qualify either honestly. I might genuinely have to purge it like I did with HSR because this is the same shit of confusing IM2 with CM lel
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why is it not cm2? oh yeah, cm2 leyline and cm2 shade are 2 different things
 
Furina003 said:
why is it not cm2? oh yeah, cm2 leyline and cm2 shade are 2 different things
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It’s not a universal. It’s just some abstract network where the fundamental substance flows from. This is the exact same thing that happened to Imaginary Energy which was confused for CM1. They’re both just forms of Info Manip 2

Also ye ik, but Shades also have different reasoning for not being CM2.
 
Super_Nova said:
It’s not a universal. It’s just some abstract network where the fundamental substance flows from.
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cm2 doesn't have to be universal, but cm2 is a concept that governs everything within its area.

Changing that concept will change reality.
 
Super_Nova said:
Did not say this. “Universal” is referring to this instead of range.
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Yes, I know what you mean, universal in that sense is a concept that supports everything, right?
Super_Nova said:
That’s a derivative of being the “universal” I mentioned above. The way it happens for genshin doesn’t fit that at all.
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In Genshin Impact, it's been proven that changing a leyline will change reality itself. This is because a leyline is a network of concepts that is the root of Irminsul (the world tree itself).

In quest 5.7, we are shown how the Abyss Order wants to reweave Khaenriah's leyline so that Khaenriah will live and exist again, and even the people within it will return to their original state. This is how we meet Direidyth.
 
Furina003 said:
Yes, I know what you mean, universal in that sense is a concept that supports everything, right?
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This is an oversimplification. This definition can function for CM3 as well.

A universal is an abstract object in which particulars “participate in” in order to actualize their properties. The objects of Teyvat don’t “participate” in elemental energy—they are merely formed by them. This wouldn’t even be CM3.

Furina003 said:
In Genshin Impact, it's been proven that changing a leyline will change reality itself. This is because a leyline is a network of concepts that is the root of Irminsul (the world tree itself).

In quest 5.7, we are shown how the Abyss Order wants to reweave Khaenriah's leyline so that Khaenriah will live and exist again, and even the people within it will return to their original state. This is how we meet Direidyth.
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I’m not saying that Leylines don’t build reality, I’m saying that the way in which they do so is not CM2.
 
Super_Nova said:
This is an oversimplification. This definition can function for CM3 as well.

A universal is an abstract object in which particulars “participate in” in order to actualize their properties. The objects of Teyvat don’t “participate” in elemental energy—they are merely formed by them. This wouldn’t even be CM3.
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I don't understand what you mean, even after I read the standard about cm2, I don't think it's excessive
2. Dependent Concepts: Such concepts are abstract and govern all reality within their area of influence. These concepts shape everything, and changing them would either require the alteration of every object of the concept or, if manipulated directly, change all objects of the concept alongside the concept itself. These concepts, however, exist simultaneously with and are bound by the object of the concept. In this way, an abstract dependent concept can be destroyed by destroying all objects of the concept, restored by re-making an object of a previously existent concept, or changed by changing all objects of the concept across reality. This, however, does not qualify for this form of conceptual manipulation, and is rather treated as a by-product of another action akin to a "domino effect". This type of conceptual manipulation can only be obtained if the abstract concept itself is changed directly, and not by indirect methods. For example, destroying humanity and thus "ending the concept of humanity" would not qualify, while directly "ending the concept of humanity" and thus destroying humanity would qualify.
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Super_Nova said:
I’m not saying that Leylines don’t build reality, I’m saying that the way in which they do so is not CM2.
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So, what do you mean by how CM2 works? A concept that governs reality is clearly a fundamental concept.

Type 3 concepts are simply fundamental concepts that govern specific things, such as how a mountain is formed by the concept of a mountain.

Type 2 concepts, on the other hand, are concepts that govern everything on the mountain, including the existence of the mountain itself and everything within it.

So, I don't quite understand what you mean by how CM2 works. Perhaps you could explain.
 
Furina003 said:
I don't understand what you mean, even after I read the standard about cm2, I don't think it's excessive


So, what do you mean by how CM2 works? A concept that governs reality is clearly a fundamental concept.

Type 3 concepts are simply fundamental concepts that govern specific things, such as how a mountain is formed by the concept of a mountain.

Type 2 concepts, on the other hand, are concepts that govern everything on the mountain, including the existence of the mountain itself and everything within it.

So, I don't quite understand what you mean by how CM2 works. Perhaps you could explain.
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Ye, you seem to have a misunderstanding.

I’ll try and explain it best I can:

When we talk about the “universal of a horse”—horses, then, would simply “imitate” this universal in order to be like it, rather than being formed by it like some substance.

A circle is a circle because “it is like the universal of a circle”. Naturally, all circles then, in order to exist would need to “imitate” this singular universal.

A concept that only belongs to a single circle, then, would not be a universal as circles no longer “imitate” it. Rather, it merely acts as an “essence” for this one circle.

The “CM2 of Space” then, is not CM2 because it has universal range, but rather, all space in the universe “imitates it” in order to exist. It doesn’t actively form that space but merely acts as the ground for that space to exist.

The leylines simply don’t fit this description because nothing is “participating” or “imitating” it. Rather, it holds the fundamental substance (elemental energy) that goes on to form the world. This is just IM2.

And also, the only real difference between CM2 and CM1 is that the CM2 concept would disappear if you removed all things participating in it, whereas the CM1 would not.
 
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