Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[OmniScalator]

i never understand when people want to make a theory of nibelung or teyvat actually being created by someone else when the game has been referring him as:

• The primordial creator
• The primordial master of this world
• The primordial being that once ruled the planet

Nibelung is the one who created the planet.

This is a bit wrong

If we follow, Primordial One is the Actual Creator, while Nibelung was created alongside Planet

PO's Egg is unhatched, unborn, outside of universe

Something like - PO created world of teyvat > Dragons were in this world > PO took over world

 

[MSahla]

This is a bit wrong

If we follow, Primordial One is the Actual Creator, while Nibelung was created alongside Planet

PO's Egg is unhatched, unborn, outside of universe

Something like - PO created world of teyvat > Dragons were in this world > PO took over world

That is we don't know/not confirmed if Phanes was born alongside the creation/universe.

Phanes never created the planet and Nibelung is the actual Primordial Creator as it is stated in the game.

 

[Furina003]

i never understand when people want to make a theory of nibelung or teyvat actually being created by someone else when the game has been referring him as:

• The primordial creator
• The primordial master of this world
• The primordial being that once ruled the planet

Nibelung is the one who created the planet.

From the original text, it indeed says that Nibelung was born together with its world.

那是旋臂尽头某个不起眼的小世界，与伴随那世界一同诞生的始源之龙
It was a small, unremarkable world at the end of a galactic arm,
together with the primordial dragon that was born alongside it.

 

[MSahla]

From the original text, it indeed says that Nibelung was born together with its world.

那是旋臂尽头某个不起眼的小世界，与伴随那世界一同诞生的始源之龙
It was a small, unremarkable world at the end of a galactic arm,
together with the primordial dragon that was born alongside it.

Yeah, probably the moment he born also the moment he created the planet.

 

[Furina003]

This is a bit wrong

If we follow, Primordial One is the Actual Creator, while Nibelung was created alongside Planet

PO's Egg is unhatched, unborn, outside of universe

Something like - PO created world of teyvat > Dragons were in this world > PO took over world

「…天地原如鸡卵，龙蛇本就一体。」贤人阿倍良久说完这句话，随即就被埋伏的兵士们按倒。
“...Heaven and earth were originally like a chicken egg; the dragon and the serpent were originally one.”
After the wise man Abe Ryōku finished saying this sentence, he was immediately pinned down by the soldiers in ambush.

Speaking of eggs, the Byakuyakoku Collection explains that heaven and earth were originally like an egg.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

remember when those said rerir immortality came from the curse.

 

[OmniScalator]

Yeah, probably the moment he born also the moment he created the planet.

Nope, since grammar here dictates that both dragon and world are born together

They are sharing the action of being "Born"

And according to Lunar Arcanum Card

Among the countless worlds, innumerable gods and mortals,
Seek power for themselves for myriad reasons.
Passion, pleasure, joy, and hope,
Sin, blood, beneficence, and duty,
Burning love and rising desire,
In the end, beneath the unyielding, absolute will of the self,
All serve to conceal, to crystallize, and to reshape that which is soft and mutable.
Such symbolism cannot be found in the divination cards of this world,
For since the very beginning, only one ruler has controlled the countless kingdoms that have arisen.

They are the "Emperor" who slumbers within their eggshell,
Yet proclaims themselves undying.

Primordial One is Ruler of world since the beginning, meaning they were ruler even at the time of Dragons, Dragons just didn't knew it

 

[Furina003]

remember when those said rerir immortality came from the curse.

I think rerir will get immortality type 3, 4 and 8

 

[Furina003]

Nope, since grammar here dictates that both dragon and world are born together

They are sharing the action of being "Born"

And according to Lunar Arcanum Card



Primordial One is Ruler of world since the beginning, meaning they were ruler even at the time of Dragons, Dragons just didn't knew it

Pretty make senses if we see text in byakuyakoku "THE TRUE LORD"

"When the Doves Held Branches"
When the eternal throne of the heavens came, the world was made anew. Then the true lord, the Primordial One, came forth and did battle against the seven terrifying sovereigns, dragon-lords of the old world. The Primordial One created shining shades of itself, and the number of these shades was four.

In Original Teks

【鸽子衔枝之年】
天上永恒的王座到来，世界为之焕然一新。然后真王，原初的那一位开始和旧世界的主人们，七位恐怖大王开战。那恐怖的大王们是龙。原初的那一位造出了自己发着光的影子。而影子的数量是四。
The Year When the Dove Carried the Branch]
The eternal throne in the sky arrived, and the world was thereby renewed completely.
Then the True King, the Primordial One, began to wage war against the masters of the old world — the seven terrifying great kings.
Those terrifying great kings were dragons.
The Primordial One created His own shadows that emitted light,
and the number of the shadows was four.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

I think rerir will get immortality type 3, 4 and 8

type 5 too.. why 4 tho? he never died.

He should get 1, 2, 3, 5, possibly 6, potentially 7 since his phantom form, 8 because abyss

 

[MSahla]

And according to Lunar Arcanum Card



Primordial One is Ruler of world since the beginning, meaning they were ruler even at the time of Dragons, Dragons just didn't knew it

It doesn't say that. Thats just saying Primordial One is the true ruler of all kingdoms in Teyvat and he's just sleeping within their eggshell/false sky. That ain't no implying that he ruled the planet even at the time of the dragons and it was never been like that in the story.

The actual "Primordial Creator" here is Nibelung and nobody can deny that.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

It doesn't say that. Thats just saying Primordial One is the true ruler of all kingdoms in Teyvat and he's just sleeping within their eggshell/false sky. That ain't no implying that he ruled the planet even at the time of the dragons and it was never been like that in the story.

The actual "Primordial Creator" here is Nibelung and nobody can deny that.

Omni sure can, he believes the entire history of teyvat is falsified.

 

[Furina003]

Is Azhdaha the Geo Dragon Sovereign?

 

[MSahla]

Is Azhdaha the Geo Dragon Sovereign?

I'd rather wait the confirmation in the game directly rather than logical matching.

 

[OmniScalator]

Is Azhdaha the Geo Dragon Sovereign?

Yes

Both Azdaha and Dvalin are said to be dragon sovereigns in CN

 

[MSahla]

It only applies on CN but not internationally (English), so i'd rather wait the confirmation through the english one so we can all agree.

 

[Furina003]

Yes

Both Azdaha and Dvalin are said to be dragon sovereigns in CN

Actually, I didn’t agree that Azhdaha is a Dragon Sovereign, but after learning about this, I slightly changed my mind. There’s a possibility that Azhdaha could indeed be the Geo Dragon Sovereign, considering that the term “Sovereign” was first introduced in the Inazuma patch, specifically in Enkanomiya. Meanwhile, Azhdaha was released during the Liyue patch, so the term “Dragon Sovereign” didn’t exist yet at that time. However, Azhdaha was referred to as the Geo Dragon King in the original text, similar to how Xiuhcoatl is described as a Sovereign, so it makes sense to me.

 

[Furina003]

It only applies on CN but not internationally (English), so i'd rather wait the confirmation through the english one so we can all agree.

I’m not sure that topic will come up again, since discussions about Azhdaha seem to have ended, but I still hope it will be confirmed more clearly someday.

 

[MSahla]

Azhdaha is the only possibility to be the one for me, not Dvalin.

If both of them are really Dragon Sovereigns, it is hard for them to get the rating 4-C because they never had any narrative related to Dragon Sovereign.

 

[OmniScalator]

It only applies on CN but not internationally (English), so i'd rather wait the confirmation through the english one so we can all agree.

Well, EN also kinda confirms it

Paimon: W–Wait a minute, Paimon's confused! Do you mean the Dendro Dragon as in an elemental dragon? Like Dvalin?
Nahida: Yes. They're both dragons but Apep, the Dendro Dragon, has been around for longer and has accumulated dense elemental power...

 

[MSahla]

Well, EN also kinda confirms it

Not really, what Paimon mean is by "Elemental Dragon" not "Dragon Sovereign".

She basically said
"Wait so its an Elemental Dragon? Just like Dvalin?"

Paimon: W–Wait a minute, Paimon's confused! Do you mean the Dendro Dragon as in an elemental dragon? Like Dvalin?

 

[OmniScalator]

Not really, what Paimon mean is by "Elemental Dragon" not "Dragon Sovereign".

She basically said
"Wait so its an Elemental Dragon? Just like Dvalin?"

Paimon: W–Wait a minute, Paimon's confused! Do you mean the Dendro Dragon as in an elemental dragon? Like Dvalin?

Dragon sovereigns are the only elemental dragons in world, different ways of saying same thing

Even Neuvillette uses these terms interchangeably in CN -

Paimon: …Neuvillette! Hey, Neuvillette! Are you listening?
Neuvillette: Oh, my apologies.
Paimon: We were just guessing blindly—don’t tell me we actually got it right? You’re not denying it either…
Neuvillette: Your guess is correct. I sincerely hope you can keep this a secret for me.
Paimon: O-oh! Of course! We’ll definitely keep it secret!
Paimon: But… I still have a small question I want to ask you…
Neuvillette: Please, go ahead.
Paimon: Well, since you’re the Dragon Sovereign of Hydro, and you just drove back the primordial seawater of Meropide…
Paimon: The prophecy of Fontaine is all about the sea, right? So can’t you just use your power to resolve the crisis directly?
Neuvillette: The elemental dragons that remain in this world — myself included — are no longer in a complete state.
Neuvillette: It’s said that when “the First Usurper” descended upon Teyvat, they seized part of the dragons’ power. The authority of the Seven Archons now originates from that which was stolen from us.

So yes Azdaha and Dvalin are dragon sovereign in incomplete state

Till now we have met 5 dragon sovereigns and 6 Archons, kinda crazy to think about it

 

[MSahla]

Dragon sovereigns are the only elemental dragons in world, different ways of saying same thing

Wrong, theres literally other Elemental Dragons besides the dragon sovereigns like Kukulkan and Scylla

And see hows that only Applies to CN not english because in english he said "None of the current living Dragon Sovereigns, myself included, possessed our full dragonhood"

 

[OmniScalator]

Wrong, theres literally other Elemental Dragons besides the dragon sovereigns like Kukulkan and Scylla

They are NOT elemental dragons

Give me single place where they are referenced as one and I will concede

 

[MSahla]

They are NOT elemental dragons

Give me single place where they are referenced as one and I will concede

Yes they are? What are u talking about.

Kukulkan literally created by Xiuhcoatl by the primal flame right after Xiuhcoatl is born, and Scylla is literally the prince of the hydro vishaps and once served the Hydro Dragon. Both of them can be considered as the Princes.

 

[MSahla]

Vishaps can even be considered as Elemental Dragons because they're the juvenile form of dragons and born from elemental.

Morever, all light realm creatures besides the three moon goddesses are elemental dragons to begin with.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

hhahahahhaa look at those cheeks

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Why this thread have a Chinaman tag

 

[MSahla]

Why this thread have a Chinaman tag

Ask Garri

 

[FentyBeauty]

hhahahahhaa look at those cheeks

ur manekins a cutie patootie

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

ur manekins a cutie patootie

Tyyyyyy queen!

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Escoffier

Well met. I am Escoffier, Patissiere Supreme and master of precision gastronomy. As an esteemed guest of the divine, you deserve the finest cuisine Teyvat has to offer. I hope my work is to your satisfaction. If you have an interest in the culinary arts, allow me to introduce you to the...

vsbattles.fandom.com

someone should elaborate to me the meaning of this profile existence
ITS 2025 AND THERES NO XIANLING PROFILE

 

[MSahla]

Escoffier

Well met. I am Escoffier, Patissiere Supreme and master of precision gastronomy. As an esteemed guest of the divine, you deserve the finest cuisine Teyvat has to offer. I hope my work is to your satisfaction. If you have an interest in the culinary arts, allow me to introduce you to the...

vsbattles.fandom.com

someone should elaborate to me the meaning of this profile existence
ITS 2025 AND THERES NO XIANLING PROFILE

Or this one

Focalors

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[MSahla]

Someone give me where does Xiangling scales to and then i'll make her profile.

Oh yeah.. I'm bout to make Rerir's profile too.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Someone give me where does Xiangling scales to and then i'll make her profile.

well she fought cryo flower with mond traveler so shes high 8-C

 

[MSahla]

well she fought cryo flower with mond traveler so shes high 8-C

Give me the scene again

I'll just add allogenes scaling abilities since her abilities isn't too much.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Give me the scene again

I'll just add allogenes scaling abilities since her abilities isn't too much.

 

[MSahla]

Does Xiangling's Pyronado can be considered as Telekinesis?

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Does Xiangling's Pyronado can be considered as Telekinesis?

yes

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

@FentyBeauty