Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

5-B Octavia

Low ball... Boundless is bare minimum

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

Happy Halloween guys

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

My first c6 five star

 

[MSahla]

Flins carried Genshin Impact in October

 

[MSahla]

 

[Puppet43]

My point still stands all day; Moon Marrow ≠ Full Authority Moon Goddess. Those Marrows cannot make Columbina at her prime whatsoever, therefore, Moon Marrow cannot be scaled to the full potential power of a Moon Goddess.

Sahl read this slowly so ur brain can comprehend ok?
Moon 1 cant get full powers of Moon 2 and viceversa, it has been stated and shown countless times (Even columbina does an analogy with Magnetism, even do both are kinda the same they reject eachother)

The Moon Goddess' hierarchy alone is higher than the sovereigns because they were right under Nibelung, literally just like Phanes and his Shades. They're the ones who maintain the Planet's existence and operations.

My bad, guys we are scaling Varka, Ningguang, Jean above Zhongli and Venti because they are the ones maintaining the goverment
Are we deadass scaling to who has more goverment power? is this what powerscaling has became?

You are try to convince me that, Moon Marrow is a core energy, therefore, it should be equal to the full power of a Moon Goddess, while thats not even true at all. The Moon Marrow is a divine artifact left behind in the aftermath of a Moon Goddess's death. It is a core of energy formed from the congealed remains of the dead Goddess
The key words here is "Remains power" not "all the powers" of a moon goddesses.

• Im not trying to convince u, im straight up telling ur ass u are saying false shi (Guys this is the equivalent of when i said Signora above Neuvi with Authority)
• Remains as in the power from the corpse, not the remaining power

少女」:恒月的「艾莉亚」死后,其力量凝聚为了这颗月髓…

力量	lìliang	power; force; strength
凝聚	níngjù	to condense; to coagulate; coacervation (i.e. formtinydroplets); aggregation; coherent
为了这	wèile zhè	because of this
颗	kē	measureword for smallspheres, pearls, corngrains, teeth, hearts, satellites etc
月	yuè	moon; month; monthly
髓	suǐ	marrow; essence; quintessence; pith (softinterior of plantstem)

「少女」:嗯。拥有「神之心」的魔神被称为神明,拥有「月髓」的你……是不是也能当「月神」了
“Maiden”: Mm. Archons possessing the “Divine Heart” are called deities. You, possessing the “Lunar Essence”... could you also become a “Moon Goddess”?

「少女」:不,「月髓」是月神死后才会凝结而成的东西。其本质是一种力量核心。
「Maiden」: No, the Moon's Essence solidifies only after the Moon Goddess's demise. Its essence is a core of power.

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

Genshin laughed

 

[Furina003]

赋予武器突破之力的材料。 符箓可以让仙人力量借符号残留，外景可以用心像造出宇宙洞天。丹鼎之术，则一直笼罩在秘密之中。毕竟尝试吞下这些金丹的话，结果必定十死无生
translate :
Materials used to grant weapons the power of ascension.
Talismans allow the power of immortals to linger through symbols; through the outer vision, one can shape a cosmic cave-heaven with the images of the mind.
As for the art of alchemy, it has always been shrouded in secrecy after all, anyone who dares to swallow these golden elixirs is doomed to certain death.

• 宇 (yǔ) means “space,” referring to spatial extension heaven and earth.
• 宙 (zhòu) means “time,” referring to temporal extension past and future.
  Together, “宇宙” literally denotes the totality of space and time the cosmos, or the universe.

Bro, the adepti are literally described as creating a universe/Cosmic, I think this feat can be used to strengthen the 4-C CRT that was made before.

 

[MSahla]

Moon 1 cant get full powers of Moon 2 and viceversa, it has been stated and shown countless times (Even columbina does an analogy with Magnetism, even do both are kinda the same they reject eachother)

That's just proved my point that Moon Marrows cannot make Columbina equivalent to the prime moon goddesses.

My bad, guys we are scaling Varka, Ningguang, Jean above Zhongli and Venti because they are the ones maintaining the goverment
Are we deadass scaling to who has more goverment power? is this what powerscaling has became?

It is talking about Hierarchy, you wouldn't say that the Four Shades are inferior or at least comparable to the Archons, no? let's say they're featless, even without feats their Hierarchy alone is higher than the Archons to begin with, which make the Four Shades automatically stronger than the Archons even when they're featless.

King > King's Right Hand > the People.

Bro, this is just Nibelung = Phanes and Moon Goddesses = Four Shades situation all over again. The Four Shades govern the entire Planet better than any Archons, so does the Moon Goddesses who had the same duty back in the day. The Moon Goddesses are Nibelung's right hands. (or wings because he's dragon)

This is just the same kinda thing like the Harbingers rank. Even before Capitano came out, we knew that he's stronger than any harbingers. Because of what? Because of the hierarchy in there, because of his rank that above anyone in the Fatui.

• Im not trying to convince u, im straight up telling ur ass u are saying false shi (Guys this is the equivalent of when i said Signora above Neuvi with Authority)
• Remains as in the power from the corpse, not the remaining power

All this CN just for onto nothing.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I accidentally set this as the render instead of her gallery and reverted this. Could this stay as her render though?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hu_Tao_(Genshin_Impact)?oldid=9244528

 

[MSahla]

I accidentally set this as the render instead of her gallery and reverted this. Could this stay as her render though?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hu_Tao_(Genshin_Impact)?oldid=9244528

I opened it and i was like "what the hell"

But, the Gallery section should be far from the main picture which is the highest part of the source editing, how did you missed that?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I opened it and i was like "what the hell"

But, the Gallery section should be far from the main picture which is the highest part of the source editing, how did you missed that?

 

[MSahla]

In Japanese, this scene Columbina said 大好きなサンドローネ。"Daisukina Sandrone"
Which translate to "My Beloved Sandrone"
SANDBINA IS REAL

 

[MSahla]

Sandrone might be the best Tsundere in Genshin

 

[MSahla]

I have to get Ineffa and Escoffier whenever they rerun, i just have to.

 

[Furina003]

i think, shade can get ND2 and BDE1, because they are beyond the concepts of duality, including being outside spacetime.

 

[MSahla]

i think, shade can get ND2 and BDE1, because they are beyond the concepts of duality, including being outside spacetime.

stop wanking dude

 

[Furina003]

stop wanking dude

I don't wank and never have, I say that because it makes sense.

 

[Furina003]

before the arrival of the shades, life, death, space, and time did not exist, in the nod-krai trailer also explains similarly where there is no boundary between life and death which means the concept of life and death does not exist, which means all creatures live and die simultaneously or not live and not die, and continues with the statement that at that time all things were just free-flowing will. the cycles of the world are also caused by leylines which are creations of the heavenly principle, even universal destiny and universal law are creations of the heavenly principle, the shades should not have those aspects. I might make a crt, but not now, I'm waiting for the nonduality page to change. So I thought, it's better to wait for that and wait for the nod-krai story to finish. and also maybe i will bring back the istaroth plot manipulation because i found feat if the reality story has really been changed

 

[MSahla]

Talking about how people being completely "overtaken" by the Abyss just like the Sinners and Nibelung.

First, The Abyss is not just dark energy, it’s entropy, reversal, and negation of divine order — a concept rather than an element.
So when a being is completely “overtaken” by Abyssal power, it’s not merely corrupted — it’s unmade and remade by the Abyss’s logic.

Sinner like Rerir is stated by Albedo that he's nothing more than "Manifestation of Abyssal Power itself". At this point, their transformation has reached an ontological level — they became Abyssal manifestations.
They are no longer individuals, but incarnations of the Abyss’s will.
This means:
They no longer contain Abyssal energy — they are Abyssal energy given form.
Their consciousness, if any remains, would be fragmentary or warped, serving the Abyss’s purpose.

Their existence now transcend physical form (just like Surtalogi) and existing as conceptual or metaphysical entities that embody the Abyss’s aspects (e.g. Despair, Reversal, Decay, etc.).

So yeah.. The Sinners’ mortal essence has been completely overtaken and redefined by Abyssal law, then ontologically, they are Abyssal power itself, in human-shaped memory or echo.

 

[Furina003]

Talking about how people being completely "overtaken" by the Abyss just like the Sinners and Nibelung.

First, The Abyss is not just dark energy, it’s entropy, reversal, and negation of divine order — a concept rather than an element.
So when a being is completely “overtaken” by Abyssal power, it’s not merely corrupted — it’s unmade and remade by the Abyss’s logic.

Sinner like Rerir is stated by Albedo that he's nothing more than "Manifestation of Abyssal Power itself". At this point, their transformation has reached an ontological level — they became Abyssal manifestations.
They are no longer individuals, but incarnations of the Abyss’s will.
This means:
They no longer contain Abyssal energy — they are Abyssal energy given form.
Their consciousness, if any remains, would be fragmentary or warped, serving the Abyss’s purpose.

Their existence now transcend physical form (just like Surtalogi) and existing as conceptual or metaphysical entities that embody the Abyss’s aspects (e.g. Despair, Reversal, Decay, etc.).

So yeah.. The Sinners’ mortal essence has been completely overtaken and redefined by Abyssal law, then ontologically, they are Abyssal power itself, in human-shaped memory or echo.

what is this?

 

[MSahla]

what is this?

"Talking about how people being completely "overtaken" by the Abyss just like the Sinners and Nibelung."

 

[MSahla]

Talking about how people being completely "overtaken" by the Abyss just like the Sinners and Nibelung.

First, The Abyss is not just dark energy, it’s entropy, reversal, and negation of divine order — a concept rather than an element.
So when a being is completely “overtaken” by Abyssal power, it’s not merely corrupted — it’s unmade and remade by the Abyss’s logic.

Sinner like Rerir is stated by Albedo that he's nothing more than "Manifestation of Abyssal Power itself". At this point, their transformation has reached an ontological level — they became Abyssal manifestations.
They are no longer individuals, but incarnations of the Abyss’s will.
This means:
They no longer contain Abyssal energy — they are Abyssal energy given form.
Their consciousness, if any remains, would be fragmentary or warped, serving the Abyss’s purpose.

Their existence now transcend physical form (just like Surtalogi) and existing as conceptual or metaphysical entities that embody the Abyss’s aspects (e.g. Despair, Reversal, Decay, etc.).

So yeah.. The Sinners’ mortal essence has been completely overtaken and redefined by Abyssal law, then ontologically, they are Abyssal power itself, in human-shaped memory or echo.

This is kinda upscale for the Shades because.. Naberius' power literally erased Rhinedottir's abyssal power completely (allegedly). Because Mavuika said that The Shades and the Heavenly Principles would not allowed anybody harnessing abyssal power and would punish them.

Now that Rhinedottir is become one with Naberius and served as the Ruler of Life, she should be no longer possess abyssal power anymore because why would the other shades tolerates the abyssal power among them.

 

[OmniScalator]

Talking about how people being completely "overtaken" by the Abyss just like the Sinners and Nibelung.

First, The Abyss is not just dark energy, it’s entropy, reversal, and negation of divine order — a concept rather than an element.
So when a being is completely “overtaken” by Abyssal power, it’s not merely corrupted — it’s unmade and remade by the Abyss’s logic.

Sinner like Rerir is stated by Albedo that he's nothing more than "Manifestation of Abyssal Power itself". At this point, their transformation has reached an ontological level — they became Abyssal manifestations.
They are no longer individuals, but incarnations of the Abyss’s will.
This means:
They no longer contain Abyssal energy — they are Abyssal energy given form.
Their consciousness, if any remains, would be fragmentary or warped, serving the Abyss’s purpose.

Their existence now transcend physical form (just like Surtalogi) and existing as conceptual or metaphysical entities that embody the Abyss’s aspects (e.g. Despair, Reversal, Decay, etc.).

So yeah.. The Sinners’ mortal essence has been completely overtaken and redefined by Abyssal law, then ontologically, they are Abyssal power itself, in human-shaped memory or echo.

I don't think abyss is entropy

It is more so a nothingness manifest who uses entropy to do it's bid

The CN name for the Void Realm is 虚无界 which means Nothingness realm

Also kukulkan said abyss to be dark and twisted nothingness

 

[MSahla]

I don't think abyss is entropy

It is more so a nothingness manifest who uses entropy to do it's bid

The CN name for the Void Realm is 虚无界 which means Nothingness realm

Also kukulkan said abyss to be dark and twisted nothingness

I know that Abyss is Nothingness itself, what i meant is that it is also an entropy.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

i think, shade can get ND2 and BDE1, because they are beyond the concepts of duality, including being outside spacetime.

When was this ever stated

 

[OmniScalator]

When was this ever stated

Don't know about others but as for Istaroth, since she birthed all of time, she gotta exist outside of it

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

This is kinda upscale for the Shades because.. Naberius' power literally erased Rhinedottir's abyssal power completely (allegedly). Because Mavuika said that The Shades and the Heavenly Principles would not allowed anybody harnessing abyssal power and would punish them.

Now that Rhinedottir is become one with Naberius and served as the Ruler of Life, she should be no longer possess abyssal power anymore because why would the other shades tolerates the abyssal power among them.

Doesn't make sense, if she is the manifestion of the abyss,she would be erased simply for being the abyss itself. The funny part is not even P.O can do this with his own power let alone the shades. He needed celestial nails to draw out the abyss, but there is never one instance that he could erase abyssal energy let alone unlimited energy in the case of the sinner

 

[MSahla]

Doesn't make sense, if she is the manifestion of the abyss,she would be erased simply for being the abyss itself. The funny part is not even P.O can do this with his own power let alone the shades. He needed celestial nails to draw out the abyss, but there is never one instance that he could erase abyssal energy let alone unlimited energy in the case of the sinner

Pfftt, Bros forgetting Phanes literally killed Nibelung who's completely become the Abyss itself.

Also, youre talking as if those celestial nails isn't even his power.

 

[MSahla]

Don't know about others but as for Istaroth, since she birthed all of time, she gotta exist outside of it

O pure and eternal Mother of Time, sovereign who was never born and who shall never die.
You who in the moment of your birth, also gave birth to yourself.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Pfftt, Bros forgetting Phanes literally killed Nibelung who's completely become the Abyss itself.

He didn't become the abyss itself beecause he never got enlighten by it, in similiar manner with the sinners. Not everyone who comes into contact with the abysss become the abyss itself. They get corrupted.

The Lunar card even claims that nibelung didn't receive such amp.

Was there ever a true age of darkness?
Where ignorance and shadow were mistaken for divine,
And the "Devil" was hailed as creator.
Where violence and suffering ran rampant,
A "Dark Age" of savagery that burned through civilization.

The "Devil" is merely a mask,
Through which the power of darkness is revealed.
The god who creates and maintains,
The abyss that consumes and destroys.
That infinite, boundless, perpetual "Age of Enlightenment."

 

[MSahla]

He didn't become the abyss itself beecause he never got enlighten by it, in similiar manner with the sinners. Not everyone who comes into contact with the abysss become the abyss itself. They get corrupted.

Wrong, Forbidden Knowledge is the strongest abyssal power ever brought in the game because it is coming from THE VERY BOTTOM of the abyss. Saying Nibelung didn't receive such amp is just stupid while Apep believes its the only power that they could beat celestia.

And no, Nibelung did become the abyss itself.

You witness with your own eyes the gargantuan wings from beyond the world, the once glorious and grand figure now pitiable, having completely sunk into the terrifying shadow.

The Lunar card even claims that nibelung didn't receive such amp.

Was there ever a true age of darkness?
Where ignorance and shadow were mistaken for divine,
And the "Devil" was hailed as creator.
Where violence and suffering ran rampant,
A "Dark Age" of savagery that burned through civilization.

The "Devil" is merely a mask,
Through which the power of darkness is revealed.
The god who creates and maintains,
The abyss that consumes and destroys.
That infinite, boundless, perpetual "Age of Enlightenment."

Nothing here saying about Nibelung btw

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

He didn't become the abyss itself beecause he never got enlighten by it, in similiar manner with the sinners. Not everyone who comes into contact with the abysss become the abyss itself. They get corrupted.

The Lunar card even claims that nibelung didn't receive such amp.

Was there ever a true age of darkness?
Where ignorance and shadow were mistaken for divine,
And the "Devil" was hailed as creator.
Where violence and suffering ran rampant,
A "Dark Age" of savagery that burned through civilization.

The "Devil" is merely a mask,
Through which the power of darkness is revealed.
The god who creates and maintains,
The abyss that consumes and destroys.
That infinite, boundless, perpetual "Age of Enlightenment."

The fact that P.O with all his might trying to draw out limited abyssal energy in teyvat with celestial nails which caused him to sleep for 500 years yet you claim shades can casually remove abyssal energy... logic doesnt add up.

this would make the shades>P.O

 

[MSahla]

The fact that P.O with all his might trying to draw out limited abyssal energy in teyvat with celestial nails which caused him to sleep for 500 years yet you claim shades can casually remove abyssal energy... logic doesnt add up.
this would make the shades>P.O

Maybe because he got weakened by Nibelung, Lmao.

 

[OmniScalator]

The fact that P.O with all his might trying to draw out limited abyssal energy in teyvat with celestial nails which caused him to sleep for 500 years yet you claim shades can casually remove abyssal energy... logic doesnt add up.

this would make the shades>P.O

PO wants to create a self perpetuating system where world is capable of defending from abyss without their need, that is why they didn't allow Ronova to defend Natlan from abyss, PO never uses full might against abyss since they don't want world to depend on themselves

 

[MSahla]

since they don't want world to depend on themselves

And he know what he's doing because all of his creations are arrogant and even betraying them.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Wrong, Forbidden Knowledge is the strongest abyssal power ever brought in thr game because it is coming from THE VERY BOTTOM of the abyss.\

That is wrong, Nahida already explained there is no difference between forbidden knowledge and just abyss. they are just different names in different regions.

The Abyss manifests its power in a manner that is most devastating to the place in question. In Sumeru, it was forbidden knowledge. In Natlan, it was monstrous creatures. Our experience combatting the Abyss is inapplicable to Natlan for that very reason, but I still regret that I was unable to offer aid. Thankfully, the crisis has now been resolved, and Mavuika said many Natlanese are planning to visit Sumeru. I plan to welcome them with own arms!

And no, Nibelung did become the abyss itself.

no, he didn't nothing suggest it. Not even the text does lol.

Plus Skirk already refutes it, Nibelung couldn't even access the abyssal power. You either adapt to it or you get corrupted to it, both isn't a possibility therefore he couldn't even harness the power of the abyss or wield the abyss. So this is only something uniquely to Skirk and the sinners and not everyone who comes into contact with the abyss.

Nothing here saying about Nibelung btw

the dark age is refering to nibelung, he is the symbol of ignorance in contrast with the sinners.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Maybe because he got weakened by Nibelung, Lmao.

It is stated that the cataclysm made him sleep for 500 years nothing about Nibelung. The fact that none of the shades who also fought against Nibelung is weakened.

 

[OmniScalator]

It is stated that the cataclysm made him sleep for 500 years nothing about Nibelung. The fact that none of the shades who also fought against Nibelung is weakened.

Well, firstly battle of vengeance did ruin functions of PO rendering them unable to suppress order of world and needing Archons which means Abyss Nibelung was strong

Secondly, PO is sleeping to recover

 

[MSahla]

That is wrong, Nahida already explained there is no difference between forbidden knowledge and just abyss. they are just different names in different regions.

The Abyss manifests its power in a manner that is most devastating to the place in question. In Sumeru, it was forbidden knowledge. In Natlan, it was monstrous creatures. Our experience combatting the Abyss is inapplicable to Natlan for that very reason, but I still regret that I was unable to offer aid. Thankfully, the crisis has now been resolved, and Mavuika said many Natlanese are planning to visit Sumeru. I plan to welcome them with own arms!

Duhh?? Because they both abyssal power but FK has better quality because it can harm PO so bad. While an ordinary abyssal being like Gosoythoth, not even need full power Ronova to beat that thing

no, he didn't nothing suggest it. Not even the text does lol.

"Because i said so" Ahh

Plus Skirk already refutes it, Nibelung couldn't even access the abyssal power. You either adapt to it or you get corrupted to it,

If not everyone who comes into contact with the abyss, then how did he manage to get the Forbidden Knowledge from the Very Bottom of the Abyss? Thats just a bullshit and Skirk's know nothing about Nibelung lol.

both isn't a possibility therefore he couldn't even harness the power of the abyss or wield the abyss. So this is only something uniquely to Skirk and the sinners and not everyone who comes into contact with the abyss.

"both isn't a possibility therefore he couldn't even harness the power of the abyss or wield the abyss"
So wtf is Forbidden Knowledge buddy?

the dark age is refering to nibelung, he is the symbol of ignorance in contrast with the sinners.

Thats not even implied to him, wtf? You just saying shi