Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[MSahla]

give her stealth mastery bc she can pop up behind traveler without making a sound n she can scare arlecchino-

Ah yea that one too, i forgor

 

[FentyBeauty]

also why are u putting entire quotes/interactions in the references section that’s where ur supposed to put where the quotes that ur using are coming from and not the thing itself

u could just take a screenie or a vid of the interaction, link it to the words that ur using with it, n then add a <ref name or something idk after that to include where u found it bc u don’t have to list the whole thing in there

 

[MSahla]

also why are u putting entire quotes/interactions in the references section that’s where ur supposed to put where the quotes that ur using are coming from and not the thing itself

u could just take a screenie or a vid of the interaction, link it to the words that ur using with it, n then add a <ref name or something idk after that to include where u found it bc u don’t have to list the whole thing in there

Guess i just change it to Imgur. Since i don't know wheres those NPC and interactions comes from i might just used the Wiki and screenshot the specifict quotes.

 

[MSahla]

Guess i just change it to Imgur. Since i don't know wheres those NPC and interactions comes from i might just used the Wiki and screenshot the specifict quotes.

That one message board is the one that idk where did it come from

 

[FentyBeauty]

Guess i just change it to Imgur. Since i don't know wheres those NPC and interactions comes from i might just used the Wiki and screenshot the specifict quotes.

idk abt imgur bc i heard ppl from the uk can’t use it anymore

but anyways im pretty sure the genshin wiki shows what quests the interactions come from so u’d know where to find it, and then u can just search up on youtube for vids that have walkthroughs or gameplays on the quests and u can try to look for the intersction from there

 

[MSahla]

idk abt imgur bc i heard ppl from the uk can’t use it anymore

but anyways im pretty sure the genshin wiki shows what quests the interactions come from so u’d know where to find it, and then u can just search up on youtube for vids that have walkthroughs or gameplays on the quests and u can try to look for the intersction from there

I guess this is enough?

Sahlwrld/Columbina

vsbattles.fandom.com

The only one that i can't find is That message board, because i forgot where it was in the game.

 

[FentyBeauty]

I guess this is enough?

Sahlwrld/Columbina

vsbattles.fandom.com

The only one that i can't find is That message board, because i forgot where it was in the game.

it’s on the nasha town bulletin board

 

[MSahla]

it’s on the nasha town bulletin board

Thank u

 

[MSahla]

This should work

Sahlwrld/Columbina

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Puppet43]

A full power moon goddess is strong enough to govern the entire planet.

So we powerscale based on goverment?

That moon marrow isn't even equal to a full power moon goddess.

It is litterally the condense power of Aria (which should be the strongest moon by sheer size)

 

[MSahla]

So we powerscale based on goverment?

More like Hierarchy, because the moons were basically replacing Nibelung's position in his absence.

Think of like
Nibelung = Heavenly Principles
Three Moons = Shades
Sovereigns = Archons.

 

[MSahla]

It is litterally the condense power of Aria (which should be the strongest moon by sheer size)

That doesn't mean it contains the full authority of Aria. Like buddy, even two moon marrows cannot even make Columbina at her full potential power as a Moon Goddess, that alone proving that Moon Marrow is not equal to a full power moon goddess, they need to connect to their respective moon to be at their full potential. And lets not forget that Columbina will never be at her full potential as long as the false sky exist and the world rejects her presence.

 

[FentyBeauty]

This should work

Sahlwrld/Columbina

vsbattles.fandom.com

Lifting Strength: Class K (Should be superior to Tartagliathat Teucer stated he once brought home a giant fish about two hundred times the size of Paimon by himself) | Class K(same as before) | Class P (The Moon Goddesses once wield immense power that is strong enough to shape the workings of the world itself, that makes her at least comparable if not stronger than Neuvillette.)

i feel like for her rerir key u could do better than saying “same as before”, instead of that just say she restrained rerir with her kuuvahki or whatever n then threw him away into the moon gate

Intelligence: At least Gifted (She was formerly the Third of the Eleven Fatui Harbingers, where she operated under the name Columbina and codename The Damselette. While appearing to be uncaring and oblivious to her surroundings no matter the situation, Columbina is implied to be extremely dangerous, as both Tartaglia and the Wanderer warn the Traveler to be wary around her if they ever meet each other.)

i honestly don’t think any of that has anything related to do with iq

Likely Genius in Combatant (She fought and defeated the Racher of Solnari Rerir who's about 10% of his power with ease after gaining a temporarily buff that makes her status near-equal to a Sinner.)

biy like actually get rid of that rn bc u literally can’t give anything for combat anymore it would just be in a separate sectin without anything next to it, n also idk how she would get likely genius for fighting him either so

 

[Puppet43]

More like Hierarchy, because the moons were basically replacing Nibelung's position in his absence.

Think of like
Nibelung = Heavenly Principles
Three Moons = Shades
Sovereigns = Archons.

Still no scale base

• That doesn't mean it contains the full authority of Aria.
• Like buddy, even two moon marrows cannot even make Columbina at her full potential power as a Moon Goddess, that alone proving that Moon Marrow is not equal to a full power moon goddess, they need to connect to their respective moon to be at their full potential.
• And lets not forget that Columbina will never be at her full potential as long as the false sky exist and the world rejects her presence.

• Litterally stated to be a power core... + stated to be her coalesced's power (Coalesced meaning Come together to form one mass or whole)
• ARIAS MARROW CAN MAKE COLUMBINA HER PRIME BECAUSE THEY ARE INCOMPATABLE; No Moon Goddess can obtain power from other moon goddess marrow
• Thats just a requierement of her obtaining her prime, not an indication that she is equal to a top tier like Sovereings/Shades/Sinners

 

[FentyBeauty]

omg literally hear me out @Sahlwrld i think i got into the forbidden knowledge that ur on

class t columbina for her rerir key cuz

if rerir is star lvl bc he = surtalogi = shades and sovereigns, n the shades have class p bc they = sovereigns

and then rerir would have class p too bc he = surtalogi = shades and soverigns, and like since he had 10% of his power he would be small star lvl

and since we give god tiers class p for some reason then 10% rerir would be clss t (2.4651e+15 something) bc its from 10% of the class p calc that we use for them

so columbina with rerir’s power gets class t ls bc she beat 10% rerir like i actually ate that up omg

 

[PedjaTarzan]

This verse is officially negging hsr because concepts that govern entire universe in hoyo are type 3 but concepts governing single shit like in genshin are type 1/2
gacha games will never be able to use actual vsbw standards and i love it
and said standards are “outdated” but theres no wog of vsbw to save them

 

[PedjaTarzan]

obv as long as those standards can help them larp the high 1-A verses with magic words made up for scaling are being used no one cares

 

[MSahla]

• Litterally stated to be a power core... + stated to be her coalesced's power (Coalesced meaning Come together to form one mass or whole)

Oh please, if you really play the act 3 you know that the Moon Marrow ≠ Full Authority of a Moon Goddess.

• ARIAS MARROW CAN MAKE COLUMBINA HER PRIME BECAUSE THEY ARE INCOMPATABLE; No Moon Goddess can obtain power from other moon goddess marrow

Nothing saying here that Aria's or Canon's (i assume the Iridescent is Canon) moon marrow can make Columbina at her prime and will never be.

Want an examples? sure, she said that it's still not enough after getting blessed by Iridescent Moon Marrow, and then she need it more. Then Two of them (Arle and Traveler) blessed her again with TWO of them of a moon marrows.

And guess what? thats still not enough because She and Rerir even said that she doesn't have strong enough power to hold a moon gate even though a Moon Gate is one of the Authority of a Moon Goddess.

Durin already make it clear that COLUMBINA WILL NEVER BE AT HER WHOLENESS or Prime as long as the world rejects her presence. She used her own power just for survive.

She already said by herself From the moment she was born, the world itself has been steadily sapping away at her strength, so she's just keep getting weakened even though she got powered up

• Thats just a requierement of her obtaining her prime, not an indication that she is equal to a top tier like Sovereings/Shades/Sinners

And the Hierarchy of a Moon Goddess alone is above the Sovereigns because they have the same position as Nibelung in his absence, therefore Moon Goddess are relatives to the sovereigns.

 

[MSahla]

omg literally hear me out @Sahlwrld i think i got into the forbidden knowledge that ur on

class t columbina for her rerir key cuz

if rerir is star lvl bc he = surtalogi = shades and sovereigns, n the shades have class p bc they = sovereigns

and then rerir would have class p too bc he = surtalogi = shades and soverigns, and like since he had 10% of his power he would be small star lvl

and since we give god tiers class p for some reason then 10% rerir would be clss t (2.4651e+15 something) bc its from 10% of the class p calc that we use for them

so columbina with rerir’s power gets class t ls bc she beat 10% rerir like i actually ate that up omg

Hollup.. Bro might onto something..

 

[MSahla]

i feel like for her rerir key u could do better than saying “same as before”, instead of that just say she restrained rerir with her kuuvahki or whatever n then threw him away into the moon gate


i honestly don’t think any of that has anything related to do with iq


biy like actually get rid of that rn bc u literally can’t give anything for combat anymore it would just be in a separate sectin without anything next to it, n also idk how she would get likely genius for fighting him either so

I'm doomed if its come to an IQ feats fr. Maybe you can do something with that.

You can edit that sandbox of mine for the IQ part and LS part if you want. After that just tell me the result. Let's just make her profile as good as possible.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

This verse is officially negging hsr because concepts that govern entire universe in hoyo are type 3 but concepts governing single shit like in genshin are type 1/2
gacha games will never be able to use actual vsbw standards and i love it
and said standards are “outdated” but theres no wog of vsbw to save them

obv as long as those standards can help them larp the high 1-A verses with magic words made up for scaling are being used no one cares

Did you really have anything other than ranting about this stuff? It's become concerning

 

[FentyBeauty]

I'm doomed if its come to an IQ feats fr. Maybe you can do something with that.

You can edit that sandbox of mine for the IQ part and LS part if you want. After that just tell me the result. Let's just make her profile as good as possible.

okay i just finished my stupod essay for this one class so i just made some edits to it

i changed her iq to unknown for now bc i couldnt rlly find anything that would be useful, but anyways i also made ur reasoning for her rerir power’s ls have a bit more detail, and i fixed some of the formatting! i also added a scrolly box for the abilities ofc! the type 1 immo that u put for her is a little questionable tho bc u dont have anything for that but it should prolly look decent now??

when ur making pages, make sure to carefully look at these parts in source editing ('''[[Durability]]: Country level'''), like the apostrophes should come after and before the stuff, so it would look like this '''[[Durability]]:''' '''Country level'''

 

[MSahla]

i changed her iq to unknown for now bc i couldnt rlly find anything that would be useful, but anyways i also made ur reasoning for her rerir power’s ls have a bit more detail, and i fixed some of the formatting! i also added a scrolly box for the abilities ofc! the type 1 immo that u put for her is a little questionable tho bc u dont have anything for that but it should prolly look decent now??

Thank you.

The Immo type 1 should be okay, as the gods in Genshin are immortal to begin with, so as the Moon Goddess she should also be Immortal.

when ur making pages, make sure to carefully look at these parts in source editing ('''[[Durability]]: Country level'''), like the apostrophes should come after and before the stuff, so it would look like this '''[[Durability]]:''' '''Country level'''

Well, when i first created the page, i didn't use the Source Editing, only visual editing because i think it's more easier.

After i completed all that is needed in the Visual editing, i'll fix the source editing like the picture and other stuffs.

Now, i didn't know that i used "('''[[Durability]]: Country level''')" this kind of thing because i didn't do it and i know thats wrong too just by looking at it.

 

[FentyBeauty]

Thank you.

The Immo type 1 should be okay, as the gods in Genshin are immortal to begin with, so as the Moon Goddess she should also be Immortal.

okayy!!

Well, when i first created the page, i didn't use the Source Editing, only visual editing because i think it's more easier.

wait twinss bc that was literally me when i first came into the wiki n worked on my first marvel character profile in my mcu era

Now, i didn't know that i used "('''[[Durability]]: Country level''')" this kind of thing because i didn't do it and i know thats wrong too just by looking at it.

i think maybe when u were doing the visual editing u selected both the durability n country level parts, and then bolded them together, which is why the apostrophes are like appearing before and in front of the entire thing bc thats what the bolding thing from the visual editing does and u can see it on the source editing

i feel like u could get used to the source editing tho like it takes time

 

[MSahla]

Wait twinss bc that was literally me when i first came into the wiki n worked on my first marvel character profile in my mcu era

i think maybe when u were doing the visual editing u selected both the durability n country level parts, and then bolded them together, which is why the apostrophes are like appearing before and in front of the entire thing bc thats what the bolding thing from the visual editing does and u can see it on the source editing

i feel like u could get used to the source editing tho like it takes time

Yeah.. Source Editing is very complicated at first.

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

This verse is officially negging hsr because concepts that govern entire universe in hoyo are type 3 but concepts governing single shit like in genshin are type 1/2
gacha games will never be able to use actual vsbw standards and i love it
and said standards are “outdated” but theres no wog of vsbw to save them

They hate us cause they ain't the best

 

[MSahla]

Spoiler: 6.2 AQ Line Count

The Damselette: 467
Paimon: 343
Traveler: 315
Lauma: 205
Varka: 157
??? (1322 | AVATAR_LADY): 153
Durin: 117
Wanderer: 101
Marionette: 100
Jahoda: 92
??? (1321 | AVATAR_LADY): 88
??? (16101 | AVATAR_LADY): 69
The Knave: 65
Lasamopius: 54
Nefer: 51
Albedo: 48
Flins: 45
??? (16100 | AVATAR_LADY): 44
Aino: 42
Dori: 39
Flins: 37
??? (16099 | AVATAR_LADY): 36
Ineffa: 31
Ziya: 18
"Black Screen": 13
Zizek: 13
Limppu: 13
Liouba: 12
??? (16125 | NPC_FEMALE): 11
Zirnytsia: 10
??? (16102 | NPC_CHILD): 10
Luonnotar: 9
Katheryne: 8
Rimehorn Deer: 8
??? (15411): 7
??? (15963 | NPC_MALE): 7
Kowski: 6
Zirnytsia: 6
??? (16103 | NPC_CHILD): 6
Kuuhenki: 6
Remeti: 5
Limppu: 5
Katya: 5
??? (16104 | NPC_CHILD): 5
??? (16121 | NPC_CHILD): 5
Moonglow Firefly: 5
Moonglow Firefly: 5
Kaarina: 4
Monster: 4
??? (16155 | NPC_CHILD): 4
??? (16117 | NPC_CHILD): 4
Stacko: 4
Ashru: 4
Jade-Eyed Cat: 4
Sarakka: 3
Kapy: 3
??? (16044 | NPC_MALE): 3
??? (16045 | NPC_FEMALE): 3
Reetta: 3
??? (16105 | NPC_CHILD): 3
??? (16114 | NPC_CHILD): 3
??? (16059 | NPC_CHILD): 3
??? (16116 | NPC_CHILD): 3
Kantor: 3
Sapphire: 3
Kari: 2
Rimehorn Deer: 2
Ketu: 2
Darimir: 2
Satedietus: 2
Arkhyp: 2
Domovoj: 2
??? (16046 | NPC_MALE): 2
: 2
Vesa: 2
Puffin: 2
Puffin: 2
Sniffer Mole: 2
Sniffer Mole: 2
Kuuhenki: 2
Ina: 1
Wecksell: 1
Veiko: 1
??? (15960 | NPC_FEMALE): 1
??? (15961 | NPC_CHILD): 1
Ilmatar: 1
Chiaro: 1
Rahetar: 1
Lyulka: 1
Dodocommunication Device: 1
??? (15964 | NPC_FEMALE): 1
??? (15965 | NPC_FEMALE): 1
??? (15966 | NPC_FEMALE): 1
??? (15967 | NPC_MALE): 1
??? (15968 | NPC_MALE): 1
Weasel Thief: 1
Forest-Patrol Hound: 1
??? (16106 | NPC_CHILD): 1
Katheryne: 1
??? (16115 | NPC_CHILD): 1
Moonglow Firefly: 1
??? (16149): 1
aq line count

#UncleLunar****

 

[MSahla]

Spoiler: 6.2 AQ Line Count

The Damselette: 467
Paimon: 343
Traveler: 315
Lauma: 205
Varka: 157
??? (1322 | AVATAR_LADY): 153
Durin: 117
Wanderer: 101
Marionette: 100
Jahoda: 92
??? (1321 | AVATAR_LADY): 88
??? (16101 | AVATAR_LADY): 69
The Knave: 65
Lasamopius: 54
Nefer: 51
Albedo: 48
Flins: 45
??? (16100 | AVATAR_LADY): 44
Aino: 42
Dori: 39
Flins: 37
??? (16099 | AVATAR_LADY): 36
Ineffa: 31
Ziya: 18
"Black Screen": 13
Zizek: 13
Limppu: 13
Liouba: 12
??? (16125 | NPC_FEMALE): 11
Zirnytsia: 10
??? (16102 | NPC_CHILD): 10
Luonnotar: 9
Katheryne: 8
Rimehorn Deer: 8
??? (15411): 7
??? (15963 | NPC_MALE): 7
Kowski: 6
Zirnytsia: 6
??? (16103 | NPC_CHILD): 6
Kuuhenki: 6
Remeti: 5
Limppu: 5
Katya: 5
??? (16104 | NPC_CHILD): 5
??? (16121 | NPC_CHILD): 5
Moonglow Firefly: 5
Moonglow Firefly: 5
Kaarina: 4
Monster: 4
??? (16155 | NPC_CHILD): 4
??? (16117 | NPC_CHILD): 4
Stacko: 4
Ashru: 4
Jade-Eyed Cat: 4
Sarakka: 3
Kapy: 3
??? (16044 | NPC_MALE): 3
??? (16045 | NPC_FEMALE): 3
Reetta: 3
??? (16105 | NPC_CHILD): 3
??? (16114 | NPC_CHILD): 3
??? (16059 | NPC_CHILD): 3
??? (16116 | NPC_CHILD): 3
Kantor: 3
Sapphire: 3
Kari: 2
Rimehorn Deer: 2
Ketu: 2
Darimir: 2
Satedietus: 2
Arkhyp: 2
Domovoj: 2
??? (16046 | NPC_MALE): 2
: 2
Vesa: 2
Puffin: 2
Puffin: 2
Sniffer Mole: 2
Sniffer Mole: 2
Kuuhenki: 2
Ina: 1
Wecksell: 1
Veiko: 1
??? (15960 | NPC_FEMALE): 1
??? (15961 | NPC_CHILD): 1
Ilmatar: 1
Chiaro: 1
Rahetar: 1
Lyulka: 1
Dodocommunication Device: 1
??? (15964 | NPC_FEMALE): 1
??? (15965 | NPC_FEMALE): 1
??? (15966 | NPC_FEMALE): 1
??? (15967 | NPC_MALE): 1
??? (15968 | NPC_MALE): 1
Weasel Thief: 1
Forest-Patrol Hound: 1
??? (16106 | NPC_CHILD): 1
Katheryne: 1
??? (16115 | NPC_CHILD): 1
Moonglow Firefly: 1
??? (16149): 1
aq line count

#UncleLunar****

2 of the "Avatar Lady" should be Nicole and Alice

 

[OmniScalator]

@The_Tetromino_King

Spoiler

your Mr.Nine gonna appear in fischl arcane quest

 

[MSahla]

Spoiler: Arcane Quest Line Count

Albedo Arcane Quest
Albedo: 35
"Rhinedottir": 26
??? (15861 | NPC_MALE): 25
Paimon: 23
Traveler: 23

Durin Arcane Quest
Durin: 20
Paimon: 13
Traveler: 13
??? (15861 | NPC_MALE): 13
"Rhinedottir": 13

Mona Arcane Quest
Mona: 32
Barbeloth: 19
Paimon: 17
Traveler: 1
"Black Screen": 1

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

@The_Tetromino_King

Spoiler

your Mr.Nine gonna appear in fischl arcane quest

Ayyyyyy! mark my words this is Hro.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

@FentyBeauty

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

 

[Puppet43]

if you really play the act 3

I didnt, lot of studies lately

she said that it's still not enough after getting blessed by Iridescent Moon Marrow, and then she need it more. Then Two of them (Arle and Traveler) blessed her again with TWO of them of a moon marrows.

Again, incompatability
She can just get a miniscule ammount of either moon marrow beside her's, same would apply to Traveler and Arle, they can only get a miniscule ammount of power from Columbina

She and Rerir even said that she doesn't have strong enough power to hold a moon gate even though a Moon Gate is one of the Authority of a Moon Goddess.

U again are proving my point

She can just get a miniscule ammount of either moon marrow beside her's

Durin already make it clear that COLUMBINA WILL NEVER BE AT HER WHOLENESS or Prime as long as the world rejects her presence. She used her own power just for survive.

I never said she was in her prime

And the Hierarchy of a Moon Goddess alone is above the Sovereigns because they have the same position as Nibelung in his absence, therefore Moon Goddess are relatives to the sovereigns.

Or maybe because they are more trust worthing than some lizard creating AI replicas of himself........................................ (By this logic Jean currently outscales Venti because he doesnt rule Mondstandt)
-
The reading comprehension sinner has just spawn

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

grabbin my popcorn.

 

[FentyBeauty]

@FentyBeauty

serving cuntress!

 

[MSahla]

Again, incompatability
She can just get a miniscule ammount of either moon marrow beside her's, same would apply to Traveler and Arle, they can only get a miniscule ammount of power from Columbina
U again are proving my point
I never said she was in her prime

• ARIAS MARROW CAN MAKE COLUMBINA HER PRIME

...

Or maybe because they are more trust worthing than some lizard creating AI replicas of himself........................................ (By this logic Jean currently outscales Venti because he doesnt rule Mondstandt)

False analogy,
Bros comparing the hierarchy of a single nation to a hierarchy of an entire world.

The Three Moons were once satellites that guarded Teyvat, and the Moon Sisters were executors of the planet's will. Celestia's principles were once quite "tolerant," not necessarily requiring the exclusion of those divergent from itself.

For the Three Moon Goddesses, their sole duty was to maintain the planet's existence and operation. And so the moonlight continued to illuminate the lands of Teyvat. Alas, even they, who kept to themselves, could not remain uninvolved. Inevitably, conflicts between those in power would affect some of those who were subordinate to them. — Lauma Character Story

The reading comprehension sinner has just spawn

Idk man, maybe because you havent play the quest.

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

I guess this is enough?

Sahlwrld/Columbina

vsbattles.fandom.com

The only one that i can't find is That message board, because i forgot where it was in the game.

The chances of She reaching her prime is small
Only if the false sky is destroyed
So does she need a prime key?

 

[MSahla]

The chances of She reaching her prime is small
Only if the false sky is destroyed
So does she need a prime key?

Should be scale to the previous moon goddess anyway. So even if the story she didn't get her prime (she will), we still can use her prime key by scaling her to the previous moon goddess, so theres no differences of power between Columbina and Sonnet at their prime.

 

[Furina003]

I guess this is enough?

Sahlwrld/Columbina

vsbattles.fandom.com

The only one that i can't find is That message board, because i forgot where it was in the game.

I suggest publishing this after all the nod-krai quests are completed, I'm pretty sure there are a lot of abilities that can be added to Columbina and I'll be rewatching all the quests to find the ones I can get. Kuuvakhi Energy should also be able to get matter manipulation, due to SAMPO's mechanism of breaking down objects to the subatomic level.