Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[Puppet43]

bro Paimon is so dumb

Why do carnivore want to eat meat? ahh question

Can we talk about Lauma tho who casually just that strong. In Act 1 and here.
She said that she shouldn't use her true power too often

Low key what is trying to do ? seal his ass?

Rerir being the biggest Crisis the world have ever experienced. This makes him vastly above Narhwal, Bakunawa, Gosoypth and other threats of Teyvat.

I mean if we talking about current/recent events, yeah like he vastly upscales a Traveler that can deal with Narwhal and Gosoythoth (with Bakunawa idk, like real Baku is missing in another timeline destroying it most likely, Venti should come rn and throw Rerir to the Mare Jivari)

 

[MSahla]

Low key what is trying to do ? seal his ass?

How far do you think from Starsand Shoal to Silvermoon Hall?
Like kilometers?

 

[MSahla]

His wings ignited

 

[Furina003]

Nah, both are just stated to being comparable to the HR, then it comes down to whoever has better abilities/BIQ, if Neuvi has the og sovereing dragon memory he has a chance of win, Sinners as far we know had barely fought anything at their lvl while Dragons could match for 40 years against stronger beings

no one said it was comparable, just a similar narrative doesn't mean it's the same in terms of power, as I said, surtalogy is even many times stronger than the world.

 

[Voidnether]

I don't think Rerir is that serious if they fetched Arlecchino off Fontaine but not Neuvillette altogether or the Archons themselves. I'm sorry but if it's like the "end of the world" it had to atleast be something comparable to the Cataclysm where these are involved

It was probably still under control, just things that like hype things up like when Neuvillette got stabbed but it was false

 

[MSahla]

It was probably still under control, just things that like hype things up like when Neuvillette got stabbed but it was false

Which one you talkin abt

 

[Voidnether]

Which one you talkin abt

Rerir's situation in 6.1

 

[MSahla]

Rerir's situation in 6.1

I mean bros not even 100% yet. He will be LITERALLY world level threat if he got all of his power.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

I don't think Rerir is that serious if they fetched Arlecchino off Fontaine but not Neuvillette altogether or the Archons themselves. I'm sorry but if it's like the "end of the world" it had to atleast be something comparable to the Cataclysm where these are involved

It was probably still under control, just things that like hype things up like when Neuvillette got stabbed but it was false

average genshin writing and most likely neuvilette wouldn't even handle him lol... bro barely managed to deal with narwhal.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

no one said it was comparable, just a similar narrative doesn't mean it's the same in terms of power, as I said, surtalogy is even many times stronger than the world.

i seriously don't know how one can equate being equal to the world with being many times stronger than the world.

 

[MSahla]

average genshin writing and most likely neuvilette wouldn't even handle him lol... bro barely managed to deal with narwhal.

You think so? even Paimon thinks like this when we fought Skofnungr again
"we're not with Neuvillette again so we better beat him by our own strength"

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

You think so? even Paimon thinks like this when we fought Skofnungr again
"we're not with Neuvillette again so we better beat him by our own strength"

Yeah, because Neuvilette was shielding them and is stronger than the traveler. Skirk literally said if Narwhal was truly hungry he wouldn't even stand a chance against it.

 

[MSahla]

Yeah, because Neuvilette was shielding them and is stronger than the traveler. Skirk literally said if Narwhal was truly hungry he wouldn't even stand a chance against it.

Thats just means Neuvi can handle Narwhal and for those who says Neuvi can't do anything without Traveler is just straight up stupid.

Ehh, what Skirk meant says basically that whale would be more aggresive when its hungry not "more powerful" than Neuvillette.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Thats just means Neuvi can handle Narwhal and for those who says Neuvi can't do anything without Traveler is just straight up stupid.

Ehh, what Skirk meant says basically that whale would be more aggresive when its hungry not "more powerful" than Neuvillette. And most important is that, that Skofnungr is should be stronger than that Whale btw.

Even if it is more aggressive, Neuvilette had a 99.99 % of failure against it. Which shouldn't be the case if Neuvilette was supposedly superior to Narwhal.

Uh-huh Current Traveler is also stronger than e5 Traveler and even then, he wasn't solo handling Narwhal but with Skirk who could've dealt with Skofnungr alone.

 

[MSahla]

Even if it is more aggressive, Neuvilette had a 99.99 % of failure against it. Which shouldn't be the case if Neuvilette was supposedly superior to Narwhal.

Those so-called "99.99% of failure" proves by nothing, btw.
You can bark "Neuvi is a fodder" now, but it isn't the time yet he had to shone.

And for friendly reminder; Sinners, Shades, Heavenly Principles upscale = Neuvi's Upscale.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Those so-called "99.99% of failure" proves by nothing, btw.

Nothing is so called here, Skirk explicitly stated Neuvilette power wouldn't work on Narhwal

You can bark "Neuvi is a fodder" now, but it isn't the time yet he had to shone.

No one claiming, he is fodder. You are just coping now. You don't even believe Narhwal is fodder. Friendly reminder that Narhwal is a threat to teyvat himself.

 

[MSahla]

Nothing is so called here, Skirk explicitly stated Neuvilette power wouldn't work on Narhwal

Nowhere

No one claiming, he is fodder. You are just coping now. You don't even believe Narhwal is fodder. Friendly reminder that Narhwal is a threat to teyvat himself.

Neuvi can also be a threat to Teyvat if he's a maniac like the sinners.
Bro just can drown the whole planet if he wants with the Primordial Sea, and all living beings will just be dead by Primordial Sea waters.

And i'm not coping, why would i? i have good enough knowledge for this game to say he's not a fodder.

Anyway, there will be no ending for this kind of debate. Just wait until they talk about the Dragons or him again because soon enough they will.

 

[Puppet43]

no one said it was comparable, just a similar narrative doesn't mean it's the same in terms of power, as I said, surtalogy is even many times stronger than the world.

"hoyo give me self glaze or i retire, i dont wanna fight a 1E Traveler"

Ehh, what Skirk meant says basically that whale would be more aggresive when its hungry not "more powerful" than Neuvillette.

When finally someone comprehends the narrative

neuvilette wouldn't even handle him lol... bro barely managed to deal with narwhal.

How many times do we have to say that Neuvi needed Traveler because the Narwhal amped itself with water to be more durable and litterally heal himself?

Skirk explicitly stated Neuvilette power wouldn't work on Narhwal

That never happend...

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

That never happend...

Skirk: Your dragon friend recognized the nature of its abilities and used the power of Hydro to protect you. That worked because it was in a satiated state, so it was somewhat less aggressive than usual.
Skirk: It's a different story when it has no more power to feed off of. That's when its true, voracious nature kicks in. It could devour everything on the planet in that state — which is why I cast it into that void space...

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Skirk: Your dragon friend recognized the nature of its abilities and used the power of Hydro to protect you. That worked because it was in a satiated state, so it was somewhat less aggressive than usual.
Skirk: It's a different story when it has no more power to feed off of. That's when its true, voracious nature kicks in. It could devour everything on the planet in that state — which is why I cast it into that void space...

The fact that Narwhal could devour everything in teyvat and is a threat to teyvat, by Vsbw logic should make him comparable with the sovereigns. Rivaling teyvat = being comparable with the sovereigns according to y'all

 

[Puppet43]

Skirk: Your dragon friend recognized the nature of its abilities and used the power of Hydro to protect you. That worked because it was in a satiated state, so it was somewhat less aggressive than usual.
Skirk: It's a different story when it has no more power to feed off of. That's when its true, voracious nature kicks in. It could devour everything on the planet in that state — which is why I cast it into that void space...

Kinda funny how she never saw Og sovereing hydro rising up the oceans ...

Rivaling teyvat = being comparable with the sovereigns according to y'all

No, Sovereings rival the Human Realm, which includes everything in Teyvat aside of dragons and abyss creatures
Human realm itself could contain "Sovereing lvl" characters like Sinners (because yes, even if they trascendt their humanity, they still Human Realm characters)
While Narwhal being a threath to Teyvat was referring to the planet

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Kinda funny how she never saw Og sovereing hydro rising up the oceans ...

No, Sovereings rival the Human Realm, which includes everything in Teyvat aside of dragons and abyss creatures

The human realm is only consist of humanity and the gods.

Human realm itself could contain "Sovereing lvl" characters like Sinners (because yes, even if they trascendt their humanity, they still Human Realm characters)

Nope, they transcend all of world of teyvat itself which includes the human realm, they are no longer part of the human realm since they transcend teyvat and no longer are part of the human realm. They all have the all encompassing power of the abyssal realm. The same abyss which corrupted Nibelung and yet deified the sinners btw.

While Narwhal being a threath to Teyvat was referring to the planet

Narwhal could literally destroy the Primordial sea which is not of the human realm but the light realm. And Surtalogi is incomprehensibly above Narwhal who could literally affect both the human realm and the light realm.

 

[Puppet43]

The human realm is only consist of humanity and the gods.

And anything that isn't elemental in nature (Sovereings, Slimes, Oceanids) or Abyssal
Or where you think the Fungi, Automatans, Fae, Adepti fit into?

Nope, they transcend all of world of teyvat itself which includes the human realm, they are no longer part of the human realm since they transcend teyvat and no longer are part of the human realm.

Yeah they are trascendent because they aren't consider humans anymore, but their origins still Human Realm, you cant just "change Realms" since thats determinated by your birth/species

They all have the all encompassing power of the abyssal realm. The same abyss which corrupted Nibelung and yet deified the sinners btw.

Yeah, because Sovereings are elemental lifeforms, which are much more affected from Abyssal energy than Human realm
Think of the void and light realms as a same pole in a magnet, they cant get togheter, but the human realm can use whatever they want from both sides, like phlogiston, kuuvankhi and Abyssal Energies

Narwhal could literally destroy the Primordial sea

Why would he destroy its main food source? that stupid and never stated

who could literally affect both the human realm and the light realm

If u describe drinking water as affecting both realms then sure Liyue Traveler can affect both realms because he can fight Tartaglia (Human from Human realm) and a Primo Geovishap (Dragon from light realm) therefore
Liyue Traveler = 4C gg

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Yeah they are trascendent because they aren't consider humans anymore, but their origins still Human Realm, you cant just "change Realms" since thats determinated by your birth/species

Where is proof of this? They’re explicitly stated to be transcendent beings. They’re also stated to not be considered human entities anymore. They can't even be classified to be from the human realm anymore. You can even argue that Khaenri'ah isn't a part of the human realm considering the fact they aren't under the purview of the seven nor were under Celestia dominion nor protected from the false sky.

Dainsleif: Khaenri'ah was a nation without a god — not because it had a god that died or abandoned them, but because it never had a god to begin with.

The human realm is explicitly stated to be created to coexist with the light realm since it is fallen under the dominion of humanity and the human realm is governed by Celestia which isn't even the case for Khaenri'ah.

 

[Puppet43]

Where is proof of this? They’re explicitly stated to be transcendent beings.

Gonna answer u in dc

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

I don't think Rerir is that serious if they fetched Arlecchino off Fontaine but not Neuvillette altogether or the Archons themselves. I'm sorry but if it's like the "end of the world" it had to atleast be something comparable to the Cataclysm where these are involved

It was probably still under control, just things that like hype things up like when Neuvillette got stabbed but it was false

Yeah
I also think that
Trailer's always hypes up non existent things
Or things out of context

 

[MSahla]

Eyes on the Hands

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Hroptatyr (translate to sage) might be an Anaxa expy since they both are wise and relates to Reason. Both are based on Odin. Hroptatyr fits the decription of the Lunar Arcanum XII: The Hanged Man, which funny enough depicts a man from khaenri'ah.

The Lunar Arcanum XII: The Hanged Man, also matches with the description of Silver Twig - the item you got after Sumeru AQ.

"Trees" symbolize life. In one of the stories from a certain place, there was a person who had entrusted her consciousness to the white tree's branches before she passed away. In that way, neither her life nor hope would be lost, since the branches would grow and sprout where there was sunshine and rain, and would one day blossom and bear fruits. "Trees" also symbolize wisdom. In one of the legends, a sage hanging upside down on a tree had acquired the knowledge of how to inscribe runes and control sacred words, and thus followed the kingdom established along the tree's roots, eventually gaining a glimpse of the secret of the cosmos. All knowledge, memory, and experience flow through this giant tree, just like a stream flows into a river, the river joins a sea, the sea turns into clouds, and the clouds rain onto the ground — just like life itself.

 

[Voidnether]

Hroptatyr (translate to sage) might be an Anaxa expy since they both are wise and relates to Reason. Both are based on Odin. Hroptatyr fits the decription of the Lunar Arcanum XII: The Hanged Man, which funny enough depicts a man from khaenri'ah.

The Lunar Arcanum XII: The Hanged Man, also matches with the description of Silver Twig - the item you got after Sumeru AQ.

"Trees" symbolize life. In one of the stories from a certain place, there was a person who had entrusted her consciousness to the white tree's branches before she passed away. In that way, neither her life nor hope would be lost, since the branches would grow and sprout where there was sunshine and rain, and would one day blossom and bear fruits. "Trees" also symbolize wisdom. In one of the legends, a sage hanging upside down on a tree had acquired the knowledge of how to inscribe runes and control sacred words, and thus followed the kingdom established along the tree's roots, eventually gaining a glimpse of the secret of the cosmos. All knowledge, memory, and experience flow through this giant tree, just like a stream flows into a river, the river joins a sea, the sea turns into clouds, and the clouds rain onto the ground — just like life itself.

The concept of Phanes being replaced by an Anaxa expy

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

The concept of Phanes being replaced by an Anaxa expy

Blud might be the most op mf in Genshin. Especially if he is the writer of Vera Melancholy, considering the fact that Surtalogi acquired Vera Melancholy in space. coincidence?

 

[Voidnether]

Blud might be the most op mf in Genshin. Especially if he is the writer of Vera Melancholy, considering the fact that Surtalogi acquired Vera Melancholy in space. coincidence?

As I've said, the past cannot change the future, for the predetermined rules of equilibrium are slightly more powerful than me. But the future, with its infinite possibilities, could save the world."

Equilibrium upscale, also there's no way all of this is real bro. I used to read them back in 2021 but I never took them seriously until I read the end of the volume 2 after 5.7 like man this is a BOOK IN MONDSTADT THAT'S LIKE RELEASED IN 1.0 OR WHAT BRO WHAT THE HELL

 

[Voidnether]

Equilibrium upscale, also there's no way all of this is real bro. I used to read them back in 2021 but I never took them seriously until I read the end of the volume 2 after 5.7 like man this is a BOOK IN MONDSTADT THAT'S LIKE RELEASED IN 1.0 OR WHAT BRO WHAT THE HELL

Lowkey lucky his empire didn't counter the IPC, Antimatter Legion, Xianzhou Alliance or Planet Screwllum

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Mechanical Emperor & Irontomb are self-explanatory, but this mf is still so lucky to not even be entangled in one when there's obvious hints the rule of Equilibrium applies there

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Equilibrium upscale, also there's no way all of this is real bro. I used to read them back in 2021 but I never took them seriously until I read the end of the volume 2 after 5.7 like man this is a BOOK IN MONDSTADT THAT'S LIKE RELEASED IN 1.0 OR WHAT BRO WHAT THE HELL

The Cosmology within Vera melancholy is Insane not only it used IRL Astronomy (Orion Arm, Andromeda Galaxy, Large Magellanic Cloud and Nebulas etc) and places (greece etc) on earth, it also refers the IMT and it also is aware of the existence of the Valkyries from HI3.

Surtalogi quotes directly from it, specifically from the Vol II section. It seems even Vedrfolnir statement confirms “Only the future can save the past” quotation from Vera’s Melancholy.

"The Primordial reversed the destruction; the Sky Island scorched the Land Nation. Chalk pursues Gold; The Crimson Moon seeks vengeance on the Black Sun. The future saves the past; the elder and the younger of the same blood destroy each other--such is the cyclical fate of this world. Dain, for you, what does that strand of golden hair signify? Someone you must kill, or the recipient of your confession/penitence. -----Someone who claims to know fate well

 

[Voidnether]

The Cosmology within Vera melancholy is Insane not only it used IRL Astronomy (Orion Arm, Andromeda Galaxy, Large Magellanic Cloud and Nebulas etc) and places (greece etc) on earth, it also refers the IMT and it also is aware of the existence of the Valkyries from HI3.

Surtalogi quotes directly from it, specifically from the Vol II section. It seems even Vedrfolnir statement confirms “Only the future can save the past” quotation from Vera’s Melancholy.

"The Primordial reversed the destruction; the Sky Island scorched the Land Nation. Chalk pursues Gold; The Crimson Moon seeks vengeance on the Black Sun. The future saves the past; the elder and the younger of the same blood destroy each other--such is the cyclical fate of this world. Dain, for you, what does that strand of golden hair signify? Someone you must kill, or the recipient of your confession/penitence. -----Someone who claims to know fate well

The part I bolded, could you give me a quote to it? I read through all of them and I couldn't find that apparently

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

The part I bolded, could you give me a quote to it? I read through all of them and I couldn't find that apparently

"I believe on the other side of the Starry Sea is a planet inhabited by gods who can answer all prayers and wishes, and everyone bearing a wish is on a journey to get there. I believe, in our universe, there is a world currently in a war against doomsday, where the noble and elegant souls of fourteen Valkyries burn bright, if only for a brief but magnificent moment..."

 

[Voidnether]

"I believe on the other side of the Starry Sea is a planet inhabited by gods who can answer all prayers and wishes, and everyone bearing a wish is on a journey to get there. I believe, in our universe, there is a world currently in a war against doomsday, where the noble and elegant souls of fourteen Valkyries burn bright, if only for a brief but magnificent moment..."

Apparently it's off GGZ where there are 14 Valkyries (Herrschers) there with the last 1 being Kiana, I found this Reddit post that's like half a decade already talking about this but I'm pretty sure SP's don't even count like Asuka because it's a collab character (?)

 

[Voidnether]

Lowkey let's just take everyone who's glad Genshin isn't getting any SP like HI3/HSR and kidnap them when Genshin's correlations with Honkai is insane, ZZZ didn't even have this stuff there. I'm 100% sure there will be SP in Genshin, just later on after Part 1 is finished, I'm sure of that

 

[MSahla]

Reminder that Albedo still has an an older, one-horn white horse (unicorn) sibling that we haven't met in the game yet, and the recent Luna II trailer showed a "Sinners chessboard" with a unicorn piece with golden armor, which likely represents Rhinedottir.
So, Another Albedo and Durin sibling in-coming.

 

[OmniScalator]

"I believe on the other side of the Starry Sea is a planet inhabited by gods who can answer all prayers and wishes, and everyone bearing a wish is on a journey to get there. I believe, in our universe, there is a world currently in a war against doomsday, where the noble and elegant souls of fourteen Valkyries burn bright, if only for a brief but magnificent moment..."

I used to say these but people don't believe, they say it is just easter egg to other games as fiction


I think these books might be written by witches tho

 

[MSahla]

From the moment I was born, the world itself has been steadily sapping away at my strength. – Columbina

Yeah that's just because the False Sky, because it preventing her connected to her moon beyond the Firmament.
So, Rerir would beat her if he's getting stronger while Columbina is just slowly dying since her birth.

So, the only way she could get ALL of her powers again is just to destroy the False Sky using that Kuuvahki Experimental Buereu thing that the Fatui build. OR, we got our spaceship back and brought her to the moon.

But, the fact that she's still able to keep up with more than 10% Rerir in the next patch while slowly dying is just impressive already, It's like Mavuika and Capitano all over again.