Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[MSahla]

For those who haven't, can y'all check this real quick..

Adding some missing abilities (Genshin Impact)

Today, i'll be adding some missing Abilities from a certain Genshin Impact characters. :) Acausality Type 4 This section will be those who should get Acausality Type 4. 1. The Traveler First would be the Traveler for an obvious reasons and the main reason is him being a Descender. Descender...

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[Puppet43]

JAHODA VA LIKED MY HYPERFIXATED COMMENT ABOUT SPINOSAURUS AEGYPTIACUS

 

[MSahla]

JAHODA VA LIKED MY HYPERFIXATED COMMENT ABOUT SPINOSAURUS AEGYPTIACUS

She's a chill VA, i like her.

 

[MSahla]

Goated Family right here

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

Goated Family right here

Source?

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

@Sahlwrld
Invulnerability for pyro dragon?

 

[MSahla]

@Sahlwrld
Invulnerability for pyro dragon?

Maybe, because he cannot be harmed.

 

[MSahla]

Source?

Forgot, i found it on twt and just scroll down.

 

[MSahla]

The Four Shades is always in order like:

Naberius > Ronova > Istaroth > Asmoday
↓
Flower of Life > Plume of Death > Sands of Time > Goblet of Eonothem.
↓
In the Gods' Limits also in order like that.

I wonder if those order reprensentating the order of which one is born first, like the Moon Sisters. The Moon Sisters Names is always in order like "Aria > Sonnet > Canon"
And we know that Aria is the Oldest and the Biggest, so i wonder if thats the same case.

 

[OmniScalator]

The Four Shades is always in order like:

Naberius > Ronova > Istaroth > Asmoday
↓
Flower of Life > Plume of Death > Sands of Time > Goblet of Eonethem.
↓
In the Gods' Limits also in order like that.

I wonder if those order reprensentating the order of which one is born first, like the Moon Sisters. The Moon Sisters Names is always in order like "Aria > Sonnet > Canon"
And we know that Aria is the Oldest and the Biggest, so i wonder if thats the same case.

From current information, all shades were created at same time

And in gods limit Ronova came first

 

[MSahla]

From current information, all shades were created at same time

Well maybe theres a step by step just like Nibelung created the three moons

And in gods limit Ronova came first

No, it was Naberius came first, watch it again.

 

[MSahla]

Another thing that i wonder.
We know that Aria is the oldest moon sister, The Frost Moon Goddess or Sonnet is the second eldest and the Iridescent Moon is the youngest and smallest.

If they're all playable, i wonder that Aria would be Tall Female because she's the oldest, Sonnet would be Medium Size and Canon would be Lolita.

This is kinda proven by Columbina's size btw who's literally medium size female AND she's the Frost Moon Goddess

 

[MSahla]

Since Columbina is joining the Archons gang, that means all the archons would have a voiceline about Columbina

(And please Neuvillette too)

 

[Puppet43]

If they're all playable, i wonder that Aria would be Tall Female because she's the oldest, Sonnet would be Medium Size and Canon would be Lolita.

2 of them are dead

 

[MSahla]

2 of them are dead

All of them are dead, but we are talking "IF" they're playable, or at least if they revealed their appereances.

 

[Puppet43]

Puppet43/Elemental Manipulation (Genshin Impact)

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What you guys think of this?

 

[Voidnether]

Puppet43/Elemental Manipulation (Genshin Impact)

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What you guys think of this?

Just change the universe stuff to world tbf and it's fine

 

[MSahla]

Just change the universe stuff to world tbf and it's fine.

I think Garrixian already explained why theres "universe" Stuff in Genshin.

For example is this one, In the official english it says
"However, 500 years ago, the collapse of an ancient civilization turned the universe upside down"

Now in CN, you'll find differently, the CN one would be:
"Five hundred years ago, the fall of the ancient country caused the world to change."

If you just translate it without knowing the meaning of the letters or how the letters works, you will get the same result and think that "oh the English version is different, therefore, it's wrong."

Which is why this↓explanation exist from Garrixian.

天地Tiāndì or Heaven and Earth, is traditionally referred to as the entire Universe during the Ancient and Imperial Era of China. 撼天动地Hàntiān Dòngdì is a Chinese traditional idiom that defines shaking the Earth and Heavens, or in other words, shaking the Universe. The Genshin Impact franchise officially defines and translates 天地Tiāndì, specifically as the Universe.

 

[Voidnether]

I think Garrixian already explained why theres "universe" Stuff in Genshin.

Problem is that elemental energy and other things only exist in Teyvat, since that's the entire point of it being the antithesis of the Abyss in the first place. What you quoted just explained that the Cataclysm disaster extends beyond Teyvat which supposedly affects the Universe itself, those are two different things

 

[OmniScalator]

Puppet43/Elemental Manipulation (Genshin Impact)

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What you guys think of this?

"ascended deities are often referred as Archons."

Change this to "Deities ascended to divine throne" or "Ruler of 7 nations" because there are many ways of ascension and not all of them make you Archon, like scaramech and Vanessa

 

[MSahla]

Puppet43/Elemental Manipulation (Genshin Impact)

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What you guys think of this?

The current elemental energy page is already in a very good looking, all references were there, i think we just need to update or change or add something in there instead of creating new one.

Like we should add Kuuvahki Energy in there, Phlogiston energy and so on.
If theres something wrong or ppl disagree with it we can just simply make a CRT.

 

[Furina003]

Problem is that elemental energy and other things only exist in Teyvat, since that's the entire point of it being the antithesis of the Abyss in the first place. What you quoted just explained that the Cataclysm disaster extends beyond Teyvat which supposedly affects the Universe itself, those are two different things

elemental energy is cosmic energy, The abyss is a different universe from the one universe where the dragons' planet resides, which is why Skirk explains 2 energies from 2 different realms, and they are never same.

 

[Furina003]

Puppet43/Elemental Manipulation (Genshin Impact)

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What you guys think of this?

I think, gnosis is not the authority of the dragons, gnosis is the 3rd descenders body, so if we talk about gnosis, sovereign will not get it, venti, zhongli and raiden have lost their gnosis, but they still have elemental authority, this is even explained in neuvillette's voiceline, so gnosis and elemental authority are 2 different things

and universal energi sistem must be maintained, because basically, kuuvaki, phlogiston and elemental are the same thing. The greater the energy they have, the stronger a person's physical strength will be. like kaeya when they get a vision, or mavuika when they get the power of ronova, where it is their body that adapts to the energy, not the other way around.

 

[Voidnether]

elemental energy is cosmic energy, The abyss is a different universe from the one universe where the dragons' planet resides, which is why Skirk explains 2 energies from 2 different realms, and they are never same.

Elemental energy is always a primordial element, it being called "cosmic" onto that doesn't really mean anything unless you can prove there are worlds beyond Teyvat like Skirk ones for example and the rest if they used elemental energy. But they didn't right?

 

[Furina003]

Elemental energy is always a primordial element, it being called "cosmic" onto that doesn't really mean anything unless you can prove there are worlds beyond Teyvat like Skirk ones for example and the rest if they used elemental energy. But they didn't right?

Cosmic energy is clearly energy that comes from the universe, so this is strong evidence that elementals do not only exist in Teyvat, because elementals are a modern form of primordial energy that comes from the light realm.

 

[Puppet43]

Change this to "Deities ascended to divine throne" or "Ruler of 7 nations" because there are many ways of ascension and not all of them make you Archon, like scaramech and Vanessa

With Archon Authorities i mean the god damn Gnosis, Vanessa is not getting it, in the other hand Shouki yeah

The current elemental energy page is already in a very good looking

"Fate manip via Xiao's corruption thing"

If theres something wrong or ppl disagree with it we can just simply make a CRT.

Gianny would made the CRT

I think, gnosis is not the authority of the dragons, gnosis is the 3rd descenders body, so if we talk about gnosis, sovereign will not get it, venti, zhongli and raiden have lost their gnosis, but they still have elemental authority, this is even explained in neuvillette's voiceline, so gnosis and elemental authority are 2 different things

The Gnosis is the mix of 1/7 of the 3rd Descender body and some Dragon Authority, but the 3rd Descender body just makes the vessel, not the power properties, and they have elemental authority even without gnosis because guess what, they are the gods of such elements, if Guizhong won such war we would had get Dust Visions

because basically, kuuvaki, phlogiston and elemental are the same thing

No, Kuuvahki and Phlogiston are greater forms...

mavuika when they get the power of ronova, where it is their body that adapts to the energy

Its kinda funny this example cause its litterally stated Ronova's Amp didnt amp her dura and could only use it for some time before it backlash

Cosmic energy is clearly energy that comes from the universe

Hey did you know Teyvat is still inside a Universe? therefore it counts as "coming from the universe"

 

[Furina003]

The Gnosis is the mix of 1/7 of the 3rd Descender body and some Dragon Authority, but the 3rd Descender body just makes the vessel, not the power properties, and they have elemental authority even without gnosis because guess what, they are the gods of such elements, if Guizhong won such war we would had get Dust Visions

try to give proof that gnosis contains the energy of the dragons, I don't know if I forgot or haven't read it yet

No, Kuuvahki and Phlogiston are greater forms...

Is there a statement that primordial energy is a stronger energy? Primordial sea, phlogiston, and kuuvaki are energies that originate from the light realm, and phanes modified primordial energy into elemental energy to make it easier to fight the abyss

Its kinda funny this example cause its litterally stated Ronova's Amp didnt amp her dura and could only use it for some time before it backlash

mavuika explains clearly that it is their bodies that adapt to the energy, not the energy adapting to their bodies, so yeah

Hey did you know Teyvat is still inside a Universe? therefore it counts as "coming from the universe"

yeah, that's proof that elemental energy doesn't only exist on Teyvat, which is just a planet, but from the cosmic or universe or outside the planet.

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

Maybe, because he cannot be harmed.

Yeah
So maybe add that?

 

[Puppet43]

try to give proof that gnosis contains the energy of the dragons

Litterally linked in the page

Is there a statement that primordial energy is a stronger energy?

When i mean greater im not talking about it being stronger (even do should be since the 7 elements is the division of Phlogiston) with Greater i mean more/better manipulation of the elements in general

mavuika explains clearly that it is their bodies that adapt to the energy, not the energy adapting to their bodies, so yeah

that's proof that elemental energy doesn't only exist on Teyvat

the burden of proof is into you my friend, you are asserting a possitive claim

 

[OmniScalator]

Litterally linked in the page

He is asking proof of Authority being stored in Gnosis

And they are different things

 

[Puppet43]

He is asking proof of Authority being stored in Gnosis

And they are different things

We playing with our eyes close? i see

 

[Furina003]

Litterally linked in the page

Neuvillette speaks of authority, not gnosis.
Raiden, Zhongli, and Venti no longer possess gnosis, but they still possess elements of authority.
This means gnosis and element authority are two different things.

When i mean greater im not talking about it being stronger (even do should be since the 7 elements is the division of Phlogiston) with Greater i mean more/better manipulation of the elements in general

Yes, that's what I mean, more ancient ≠ stronger

the burden of proof is into you my friend, you are asserting a possitive claim

Yeah what I mean is that when they gain greater energy, their bodies will adapt and increase their physical strength. This is the basis for obtaining UES.

1. Elementals are commonly used in the Genshin world. Kuuvaki, Primordial Sea, and Phlogiston are ancient forms of elements.

2. Energy also increases physical strength, such as humans becoming gods or humans gaining visions. They will become stronger than before, such as mavuika who gained great energy from Ronova, Venti who became an Archon, or Kazuha who used two visions.

 

[MSahla]

Is there a statement that primordial energy is a stronger energy? Primordial sea, phlogiston, and kuuvaki are energies that originate from the light realm, and phanes modified primordial energy into elemental energy to make it easier to fight the abyss

Primordial Energy > Current 7 Elements.
The Primordial Form of Elemental Energy is always has better qualities than the current 7 elements.

The seven elements that exist today were created solely by heavenly principles for the reason that all living beings can utilize elemental powers easily, because not all people can manipulate the primordial energy like Kuuvahki is only for Nod-Krai, Phlogiston is only for Natlan, and people barely can manipulate the primodial sea beside of egeria, hydro dragon and that narzissenkreuz.

Theres a reason why Kuuvahki energy is a power that is more fundamental than the seven elements of today, Phlogiston can imitate the essence of any and all things and transcribe the informations and the form of computronium, and the Primordial Sea who once the source of all life in the entire planet and not only capable of creating a new lifeform but also taking it away.

Kuuvahki is a similar energy to Phlogiston and the Primordial Sea, all of them were originate from the Light Realm. If Kuuvahki is stated to be more Fundamental than the seven elements therefore Phlogiston and the Primordial Sea too.

Therefore, all people who can manipulate these primordial energies should get Greater to their Elemental Manipulation because they basically manipulating a power that is more Fundamental than the seven elements.

 

[MSahla]

This thing is kinda cute

 

[MSahla]

Lunar Arcanum IV: The Emperor
"Among the countless worlds, innumerable gods and mortals, Seek power for themselves for myriad reasons. Passion, pleasure, joy, and hope, Sin, blood, beneficence, and duty,
Burning love and rising desire,
In the end, beneath the unyielding, absolute will of the self, All serve to conceal, to crystallize, and to reshape that which is soft and mutable.

Such symbolism cannot be found in the divination cards of this world, For since the very beginning, only one ruler has controlled the countless kingdoms that have arisen.
They are the "Emperor" who slumbers within their eggshell, Yet proclaims themselves undying."

This is kinda proving that the Heavenly Principles also the ruler of the other countless worlds.

 

[Puppet43]

Raiden, Zhongli, and Venti no longer possess gnosis, but they still possess elements of authority.
This means gnosis and element authority are two different things.

You perfectly know that those characters have their nature (Elemental Entities in case of Ei and Venti and Adeptus lineage in case of Zhongli) Adeptus can use elements without a vision, elemental beings like Slimes can use their own element they are made of, the only archon that would be affected if you snitch their gnosis would be Mavuika, since she doesnt have a vision nor elemental creature physiology, she is just a human

This is the basis for obtaining UES.

Greatfully we dont have UES, last time we did god damn mid tiers like Cyno were Solar System lvl

the primodial sea beside of egeria, hydro dragon and that narzissenkreuz.

Narwhal not mention :c

This is kinda proving that the Heavenly Principles also the ruler of the other countless worlds.

Give me the chills of them being like the Qus, these are monsters which terraform and transformed countless species (even humans) to their liking

 

[MSahla]

We always thought the pronounciation of "Sandrone" would be like "Sandron" but it turns out to be "SandroNE" like the E is not muted.
So with that, they might actually called "PantaloNE" instead of just "Pantalon" literally.

 

[Puppet43]

We always thought the pronounciation of "Sandrone" would be like "Sandron" but it turns out to be "SandroNE" like the E is not muted.
So with that, they might actually called "PantaloNE" instead of just "Pantalon" literally.

Never said in my life a muted E on neither name

 

[MSahla]

Never said in my life a muted E on neither name

Well you don't say Katheryne is "KatheriNE" don't you..

 

[MSahla]

This is supposed to be Varka, alhaitham is just a placeholder.