Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[Furina003]

Surtalogi's abilities:

there litterally no statments that said "emmm actually guys, i am a 4D entity" AND IF THAT WERE THE CASE IT WOULD SCALE TO NEUVI CAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME TIER OF POWER

neuvillette won't get any scaling from the sinners, he not even a match for skirk

the explicity stated 40 years of wars in which Nibelung wasn't involved:

Nah is the other way, he isn't as weak as you say

Neuvillette wasn't the one to fight shade

OMG GUYS NEUVI HAS NO INTERDIMENSIONAL RANGE THEREFORE HE IS LIKE WALL LVL + Amp Dura narwhal lol

this is not talking about interdimensional range, but the size of the narwhal itself, which is only considered training material by skirk and is easily defeated by surtalogy

1 person and his/its/her 4 replicates vs 6(or 7 because idk if Nibelung count as one of the 7 Sovereings of he is like Pierro, more of a directhor) dragons, remind you the rest of dragons aside of sovereings litterally were hiding away (as stated in here)

Kukulan even joined the fight, fought and was defeated, the archon if he fought with heavenly principles would also lose, so what's the difference??

 

[MSahla]

Kukulan even joined the fight, fought and was defeated, the archon if he fought with heavenly principles would also lose, so what's the difference??

Yeah they would lose.

The difference is the seven archons wont last 40 years long.
Not even needed 4 shades or heavenly principles themself, only a fragments of Shade's power is enough for all the archons.

Meanwhile the 7 sovereigns could fight the four shades and heavenly principles for 40 years (which is something that the archons could never do).

 

[MSahla]

God Tier Genshin Impact:

1. Heavenly Principles
2. Dragon King Nibelung

2 people here is definitely stronger than people below
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Three Groups here are arguably, you can say some are stronger, you can also say they can be comparable/equal.

1. Four Shades
2. Five Sinners
3. Seven Dragon Sovereigns

I'll always says
7 Dragon Sovereigns Prime can be equal to 4 Shades, you literally just can't underestimate the seven sovereigns.
Right now you can say 4 shades are slightly stronger because they currently is more highlighted than the sovereigns.

 

[Furina003]

Yeah they would lose.

The difference is the seven archons wont last 40 years long.
Not even needed 4 shades or heavenly principles themself, only a fragments of Shade's power is enough for all the archons.

Meanwhile the 7 sovereigns could fight the four shades and heavenly principles for 40 years (which is something that the archons could never do).

40 years of war that has never been explained how it happened, not individual battles. Was this a 40-year non-stop war or was it just a war that progressed step by step like an invasion carried out by the heavenly principle without direct combat.
like what happens in a war of revenge?

 

[MSahla]

40 years of war that has never been explained how it happened, not individual battles. Was this a 40-year non-stop war or was it just a war that progressed step by step like an invasion carried out by the heavenly principle without direct combat.
like what happens in a war of revenge?

That 40 years war is equally the same as the war with Nibelung vs Heavenly Principles as it is stated in the Funerary Year:
"The second throne of the heavens came, and war was rekindled, as it was in the world's creation."

Its a non-stop war until all of them were fell, its stated to be fought all of those 7 anyway not one by one.

 

[Furina003]

That 40 years war is equally the same as the war with Nibelung vs Heavenly Principles as it is stated in the Funerary Year:
"The second throne of the heavens came, and war was rekindled, as it was in the world's creation."

Its a non-stop war until all of them were fell, its stated to be fought all of those 7 anyway not one by one.

there is no statement that says it is a non-stop war, the creation of the world that is meant is the chaos caused by the change between the old and new order, not the first war, everything that is conveyed is just teory from information that is really lacking and little

 

[MSahla]

there is no statement that says it is a non-stop war, the creation of the world that is meant is the chaos caused by the change between the old and new order, not the first war, everything that is conveyed is just teory from information that is really lacking and little

Huh.. Seems like you have to learn the english more.

It is said:
"and war was rekindled, as it was in the world's creation."
Once more
"AS IT WAS IN THE WORLD'S CREATION."

this is mean that this war when Nibelung came is equally the same as the war in the world's creation which is the war when the Heavenly Principles invaded Teyvat for the first time and fought against the Seven Sovereigns.

The war between heavenly principles vs the sovereigns is where they (heavenly principles) began to create the new world which is they have to fight the seven sovereigns first and then created a new world.

After 40 years, they finally beat the sovereigns and started their job creating the human realm. Then 400 years later everything is set up and ready for Human to live. This first 400 years is what we called "The First Era" derived from "The History of the Decline and Fall of Remuria"

This era is when the humanity can communicate with Celestia directly, this era also when Hyperborea, Sal Vindagnyr and others established.

Thats just how it is and what it means buddy, and you cannot even prove your own words either where it refers to "change between old and new order" No, we are talking about the war here not how they established the new order.

 

[Furina003]

Huh.. Seems like you have to learn the english more.

It is said:
"and war was rekindled, as it was in the world's creation."
Once more
"AS IT WAS IN THE WORLD'S CREATION."

this is mean that this war when Nibelung came is equally the same as the war in the world's creation which is the war when the Heavenly Principles invaded Teyvat for the first time and fought against the Seven Sovereigns.

The war between heavenly principles vs the sovereigns is where they (heavenly principles) began to create the new world which is they have to fight the seven sovereigns first and then created a new world.

After 40 years, they finally beat the sovereigns and started their job creating the human realm. Then 400 years later everything is set up and ready for Human to live. This first 400 years is what we called "The First Era" derived from "The History of the Decline and Fall of Remuria"

This era is when the humanity can communicate with Celestia directly, this era also when Hyperborea, Sal Vindagnyr and others established.

Thats just how it is and what it means buddy, and you cannot even prove your own words either where it refers to "change between old and new order" No, we are talking about the war here not how they established the new order.

What does this prove? Does the creation of the world and the first war that same thing? No, brother.
There's no clear explanation that the 40-year war was a war that lasted for 40 years, with continuous fighting. Wouldn't it be better to wait for that information?
Rather than theorizing with unclear information?

 

[Furina003]

Oh yeah, the first war and the creation of the world are two different things, the creation of the world began after Phanes defeated the 7 dragons which means after the first war.

【衔枝后四十余年】

四十个冬天埋葬了火，四十个夏天沸腾了海。七位大王全部被打败，七个王国全部对天上俯首称臣。原初的那一位大王开始了天地的创造。为了「我们」——它最可怜的人儿将在出现在这片大地。

【Over Forty Years After the Dove Bore the Branch】
Forty winters buried the flame, forty summers set the seas to boil.
The seven great kings were all defeated, and the seven kingdoms all bowed their heads to the throne in the heavens.
The Primordial One, the Great King, then began the creation of heaven and earth.
For the sake of “us” — His most pitiful children would soon appear upon this land.

 

[MSahla]

What does this prove? Does the creation of the world and the first war that same thing? No, brother.
There's no clear explanation that the 40-year war was a war that lasted for 40 years, with continuous fighting. Wouldn't it be better to wait for that information?
Rather than theorizing with unclear information?

Speculating and understanding the context are two different things. You clearly don't understand it. It's clear that the Dragon Sovereigns' defeat occurred 40 years after the arrival of Heavenly Principle, and during those 40 years, they clearly fought, as previously stated.

Oh yeah, the first war and the creation of the world are two different things, the creation of the world began after Phanes defeated the 7 dragons which means after the first war.

Do i need to use 100times capslock or are u just genuinely don't know whats the literal meaning of:

"AND WAR WAS REKINDLED, AS IT WAS IN THE WORLD'S CREATION"
↑this is not coming from me but from the book

I don't care if you put the CN text as the context is still the same, i don't even know why you give me the CN text either like whats the point lol.

 

[Furina003]

Speculating and understanding the context are two different things. You clearly don't understand it. It's clear that the Dragon Sovereigns' defeat occurred 40 years after the arrival of Heavenly Principle, and during those 40 years, they clearly fought, as previously stated.



Do i need to use 100times capslock or are u just genuinely don't know whats the literal meaning of:

"AND WAR WAS REKINDLED, AS IT WAS IN THE WORLD'S CREATION"
↑this is not coming from me but from the book

I don't care if you put the CN text as the context is still the same, i don't even know why you give me the CN text either like whats the point lol.

天上的第二个王座到来，仿佛创世之初的大战再开。那一天，天也倾颓，地也崩裂。我们海渊之民的先祖，和他们世代栖居的土地，落入了此处。
黑暗的年代由此开始。

The second throne of heaven arrived, as if the great war of creation’s dawn had begun anew. On that day, the heavens collapsed, and the earth shattered. The ancestors of our people of the Abyssal Depths, together with the land where they had dwelled for generations, fell into this place.
Thus began the age of darkness.

Where is the text that explains that the war lasted 40 years continuously, not step by step?

you don't even understand what i mean.

firstly there is no text that mentions if the war lasted for 40 years, but that was the interval between the phanes born and the defeat of the 7 dragons.

secondly, does anyone explain the duration of the war and whether it was a continuous war for 40 years or just step by step like a phanes invasion of a planet?

Thirdly, if you base it on a war of revenge, that war only lasted 1 year, namely in the year of the funeral.

So, the information here is really incomplete, and it's hard to determine how the war happened? What was the course of the war?

 

[MSahla]

天上的第二个王座到来，仿佛创世之初的大战再开。那一天，天也倾颓，地也崩裂。我们海渊之民的先祖，和他们世代栖居的土地，落入了此处。
黑暗的年代由此开始。

The second throne of heaven arrived, as if the great war of creation’s dawn had begun anew. On that day, the heavens collapsed, and the earth shattered. The ancestors of our people of the Abyssal Depths, together with the land where they had dwelled for generations, fell into this place.
Thus began the age of darkness.

Where is the text that explains that the war lasted 40 years continuously, not step by step?

And i ask you, Why would it be step by step? Wheres the evidence of them defeated one by one? While its already said they fought seven of them not one by one.

And notice how there said
"as if the great war of creation’s dawn had begun anew." = as if the first war is happening again.

you don't even understand what i mean.

firstly there is no text that mentions if the war lasted for 40 years, but that was the interval between the phanes born and the defeat of the 7 dragons.

secondly, does anyone explain the duration of the war and whether it was a continuous war for 40 years or just step by step like a phanes invasion of a planet?

Thirdly, if you base it on a war of revenge, that war only lasted 1 year, namely in the year of the funeral.

So, the information here is really incomplete, and it's hard to determine how the war happened? What was the course of the war?

1. Notice of how the Sovereigns' lost is after 40 years of Phanes' arrival

2. The Duration? 40 years of course, "Forty winters buried the flame, forty summers" For a reason. And wheres the evidence of them being one by one they defeated it? While its already stated they fought 7 of them at the same time?

3. Nobody talking about how long is the war of vengeance, im talking about the impact of the war.

 

[Furina003]

And i ask you, Why would it be step by step? Wheres the evidence of them defeated one by one? While its already said they fought seven of them not one by one.

And notice how there said
"as if the great war of creation’s dawn had begun anew." = as if the first war is happening again.

I'm not saying they defeated each other one by one; step by step, I mean the actual battles they fought.

To help you understand what I mean, let me use an analogy.

If Groups A and B war for 7 days, they would only fight on Mondays and Sundays, and there was no fighting on the rest of the day.

7 days is the duration of the war, but the actual war only lasted 2 days because they didn't fight every day, but only for 2 days within that 7-day span. What I'm asking is where is the text that clearly explains this, not just an assumption based on texts before the Sun and Moon, which isn't actually the duration of the battle.

1. Notice of how the Sovereigns' lost is after 40 years of Phanes' arrival

It wasn't the birth of Phanes, but it was the arrival of Phanes into the world of the dragons. before sun and moon are sorted based on the timeline, before phanes came to the dragon world he first separated the universe and microcosmos

2. The Duration? 40 years of course, "Forty winters buried the flame, forty summers" For a reason. And wheres the evidence of them being one by one they defeated it? While its already stated they fought 7 of them at the same time?

Which text states that the war lasted 40 years?

3. Nobody talking about how long is the war of vengeance, im talking about the impact of the war.

From the start I asked, was this a war that really lasted 40 years Or step by step

40 years of war that has never been explained how it happened, not individual battles. Was this a 40-year non-stop war or was it just a war that progressed step by step like an invasion carried out by the heavenly principle without direct combat.
like what happens in a war of revenge?

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

That would be the Planet/Teyvat, you can see the three moons is connected to it.

I mean it can be also the sun cause he created that too.. So more large size for him

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

Furina and sahl
Maybe you guys should wait for official confirmation or maybe anime or anything
Before arguing over speculations

 

[Puppet43]

neuvillette won't get any scaling from the sinners, he not even a match for skirk

Sinners indirectly scale to Shades thanks to Gold, guess which characters are able to fight Shades.... Sovereings at their Prime lol

Neuvillette wasn't the one to fight shade

Character A fights Character B, Character C is stated as strong as Character A, therefore should be able to fight Character B, basic scaling lmao

this is not talking about interdimensional range, but the size of the narwhal itself, which is only considered training material by skirk and is easily defeated by surtalogy

Do you have evidence that Skirk needs to go deep to its root because it has amp itself in durability?

Kukulan even joined the fight, fought and was defeated, the archon if he fought with heavenly principles would also lose, so what's the difference??

There no evidence of Kukulkan joining, there is evidence that he was there when it happen nothing more

God Tier Genshin Impact:

1. Heavenly Principles
2. Dragon King Nibelung

Bro forgot Little One

there is no statement that says it is a non-stop war

An unimaginable war took place in Teyvat, causing destruction on an unprecedented scale. The world itself was on the verge of collapse.

phanes came to the dragon world he first separated the universe and microcosmos

UR TALKING ABOUT THE FAKE SKY, PHANES DEFEATED THE DRAGONS AND CREATED A BARRIER, IS STATED IN THE LAST ACT OF THE LITTLE ONE QUESTS (The one he meets with Kukulkan in a adult body form)

Which text states that the war lasted 40 years?

【衔枝后四十余年】
四十个冬天埋葬了火，四十个夏天沸腾了海。七位大王全部被打败，七个王国全部对天上俯首称臣。原

【Over Forty Years Since the Branch Was Bitten】
Forty winters buried the fire,
Forty summers boiled the sea.
All seven great kings were vanquished,
All seven kingdoms bowed to the heavens in submission.
(Over 40 years since Phanes came, the dragons were vanguished)

 

[OmniScalator]

Sinners indirectly scale to Shades thanks to Gold, guess which characters are able to fight Shades.... Sovereings at their Prime lol

All things aside, sovereigns scaling to shades is just wishful thinking

Getting defeated without causing any damage is no way of getting chainscaled to character who defeated you

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

All things aside, sovereigns scaling to shades is just wishful thinking

Getting defeated without causing any damage is no way of getting chainscaled to character who defeated you

I srsly wonder why it took the shades 40 years to defeat them cuz it doesnt seem they were much of a fight tho lol

 

[Furina003]

【Over Forty Years Since the Branch Was Bitten】
Forty winters buried the fire,
Forty summers boiled the sea.
All seven great kings were vanquished,
All seven kingdoms bowed to the heavens in submission.
(Over 40 years since Phanes came, the dragons were vanguished)

Okay, now explain to me how the battle happened? How was the flow of the war, and give me proof that for 40 years they fought every day without stopping. A was defeated by B, A and B will indeed have the same attack potential but it does not make B stronger than A, but A still is stronger than B

All things aside, sovereigns scaling to shades is just wishful thinking

Getting defeated without causing any damage is no way of getting chainscaled to character who defeated you

we travelers will get the same level as shade because traveler fight with asmoday

 

[Furina003]

I srsly wonder why it took the shades 40 years to defeat them cuz it doesnt seem they were much of a fight tho lol

This is what I thought from the start, but I will wait for more information on this, and hopefully it can be explained in nod-krai later

 

[OmniScalator]

I srsly wonder why it took the shades 40 years to defeat them cuz it doesnt seem they were much of a fight tho lol

It really depends on what sovereigns did in those 40 years

But it is quite logical I think, PO didn't wanted to kill (obviously since PO still had use for their Authority) or just defeat sovereigns they wanted to mentally subdue Whole Nations of Dragons, to get them reality check that no matter what they do, they can't be freed, and atlast as written in before sun and moon All nations of dragons bowed to celestia

BTW I think that is how PO earned loyalty of Moon sisters, by conquering them

 

[MSahla]

Okay, now explain to me how the battle happened? How was the flow of the war, and give me proof that for 40 years they fought every day without stopping. A was defeated by B, A and B will indeed have the same attack potential but it does not make B stronger than A, but A still is stronger than B

Simple, by the statement of
"The second throne of heaven arrived, as if the great war of creation’s dawn had begun anew."

The impact of the War of Vengeance is equal to the First War, means they're bloodlusted in both war.

Just take a look at the impact of the War of Vengeance, it is so insane it reminds them of the first war when the heavenly principles and 4 shades fight the seven dragon sovereigns in the past.

we travelers will get the same level as shade because traveler fight with asmoday

Yeah if the traveler manage to fight Asmoday for a long time but he got no-diffed unlike the Sovereign who manage to fight asmoday for 40 years

 

[Furina003]

Simple, by the statement of
"The second throne of heaven arrived, as if the great war of creation’s dawn had begun anew."

The impact of the War of Vengeance is equal to the First War, means they're bloodlusted in both war.

Just take a look at the impact of the War of Vengeance.

Yeah if the traveler manage to fight Asmoday for a long time but he got no-diffed unlike the Sovereign who manage to fight asmoday for 40 years

40 years but it is unknown what happened there haha, the only one who can hurt phanes is nibelung with the power of the abyss, the rest are unknown and don't ask, they are just shades punching bags

 

[MSahla]

the only one who can hurt phanes is nibelung with the power of the abyss,

Self-proclaimed ahh statement lmao because Apep wants to do what Nibelung did lol
Apep cannot be trust anymore, you only got that onetime statement which is not even reliable and i already debunked it, Nibelung had no reason to brought the abyssal power

the rest are unknown don't ask, they are just punching bags shades

Yet they're still needs 40 years, if they're not that strong compared to the shades it doesn't need that 40 years after the Heavenly Principles' arrival

 

[Furina003]

Self-proclaimed ahh statement lmao because Apep wants to do what Nibelung did lol
Apep cannot be trust anymore, you only got that onetime statement which is not even reliable and i already debunked it, Nibelung had no reason to brought the abyssal power

Okay, Who was injured in the first war? Phanes and Shade are fine and make a new order

Yet they're still needs 40 years, if they're not that strong compared to the shades it doesn't need that 40 years after the Heavenly Principles' arrival

It is not known what happened for 40 years, while the war of revenge only took place in the year of the funeral

 

[Voidnether]

Yeah if the traveler manage to fight Asmoday for a long time but he got no-diffed unlike the Sovereign who manage to fight asmoday for 40 years

15 more years left though!

 

[MSahla]

Okay, Who was injured in the first war? Phanes and Shade are fine and make a new order

Who cares who's injured who's not? They're basically onpar, their defeat was only a matter of time.

It is not known what happened for 40 years, while the war of revenge only took place in the year of the funeral

Yes we slightly know, that war was equally the same as the great war of vengeance, more proof of it is that this war is beyond the capabilities of the archons, means archons had no chance to join in that fight.

The fight was insane you cannot even compared it to the Archons who's more highlighted in the game.

 

[Furina003]

Who cares who's injured who's not? They're basically onpar, their defeat was only a matter of time.

fighting, but not being able to injure will not get scaling. but oh well, I will not argue further, it is better to wait for information from the official, and hopefully nod-krai can explain everything.

It really depends on what sovereigns did in those 40 years

But it is quite logical I think, PO didn't wanted to kill (obviously since PO still had use for their Authority) or just defeat sovereigns they wanted to mentally subdue Whole Nations of Dragons, to get them reality check that no matter what they do, they can't be freed, and atlast as written in before sun and moon All nations of dragons bowed to celestia

BTW I think that is how PO earned loyalty of Moon sisters, by conquering them

Btw, this makes sense to me

 

[MSahla]

The Authority over the Elements will not gone even after the Sovereigns is dead. Phanes literally created Naberius to replaced Hydro Dragon as the "God of Life"

He still remembers the foreign usurper appointing their own "God of Life" to order the living.

The Hydro Dragon is dead since the first fight.

And yeah, the Moon Sisters did indeed live peacefully under Celestia in the First Era of Heavenly Principles as it is stated

the Three Moon Goddesses, who served Nibelung, once coexisted harmoniously with the principles of Celestia for a time.

 

[OmniScalator]

The Authority over the Elements will not gone even after the Sovereigns is dead. Phanes literally created Naberius to replaced Hydro Dragon as the "God of Life"

The Hydro Dragon is dead since the first fight.

That statement have nothing which implies that Neuvillette died in first war

the Three Moon Goddesses, who served Nibelung, once coexisted harmoniously with the principles of Celestia for a time.

This Time can also come after their defeat, because as we know there was a time when even dragons bowed to celestia

 

[MSahla]

That statement have nothing which implies that Neuvillette died in first war

Oh yeah it is, they killed the Hydro Dragon who's the "beating heart" of the Primordial Sea and the OG God of Life to create Naberius who's the current God of Life, and eventually Naberius created a new Heart for the Primordial Sea.

You cannot have two hearts of the Primordial Sea, hence why Neuvillette born right after Egeria died.

This Time can also come after their defeat, because as we know there was a time when even dragons bowed to celestia

Duh? Of course thats after the first war, and no, theres no ancient dragons bowed to Celestia.
Seven Nations bowed to Celestia this is just means Celestia had a control over the seven nations not the people of it. Even Tsaritsa can make a rebellion against Celestia.

 

[Puppet43]

@Sahlwrld i need your help, what you think these abilties could be?

Getting defeated without causing any damage is no way of getting chainscaled to character who defeated you

Getting defeated high diff, 7 vs 5 lmao

now explain to me how the battle happened? How was the flow of the war, and give me proof that for 40 years they fought every day without stopping

There is litterally no need, when we have statments of Apep surviving a HP attack to the face and Xiuhcoatl was so tought they couldnt kill his ass, so yeah even thinking dragons were annihalted in 0.5 nanoseconds those dudes scale their dura to their AP, lmao

we travelers will get the same level as shade because traveler fight with asmoday

No diff in 2 mins (1v2) vs High diff in 40 years (5v7)

fighting, but not being able to injure will not get scaling

Clorinde scales off Tartaglia even do we don't see any of the 2 injured...

 

[OmniScalator]

Getting defeated high diff, 7 vs 5 lmao

Any evidence that it was high diff?

And no duration of war doesn't determine diff without context on damage given in that duration, since here motive of PO and shades was to subdue dragons mentally, it doesn't matter whether it took 1 sec or billions years, changing mentality of someone is wholly different from stomping them

 

[MSahla]

@Sahlwrld i need your help, what you think these abilties could be?

That thing? Gravity Manipulation of course and Geo Manipulation and maybe Explosion manipulation because it throws a bombs.

 

[MSahla]

Any evidence that it was high diff?

And no duration of war doesn't determine diff without context on damage given in that duration, since here motive of PO and shades was to subdue dragons mentally, it doesn't matter whether it took 1 sec or billions years, changing mentality of someone is wholly different from stomping them

It doesn't even changing mentality either, i dont even know where did you get that from without any proof.
The Hydro Dragon died, the Pyro Dragon got frozed, the Cryo Dragon is implied to be burned alive. Wheres the changing mentality?

 

[Puppet43]

That thing? Gravity Manipulation of course and Geo Manipulation and maybe Explosion manipulation because it throws a bombs.

Idk why it doesnt link the text but i mean the next quote

The Arkhium in the device's core has the characteristics of "splitting" or "precipitation," and can take matter, or certain things outside of matter, and separate them. It is said that this process can be reversed, but the Fontaine Research Institute is infatuated only with the physical effects it can produce.

And no duration of war doesn't determine diff without context on damage given in that duration, since here motive of PO and shades was to subdue dragons mentally, it doesn't matter whether it took 1 sec or billions years, changing mentality of someone is wholly different from stomping them

It actually does, it implies a equality between both teams

 

[MSahla]

Idk why it doesnt link the text but i mean the next quote

Yeah so about Arkhium.
Arkhium (in genshin is analogous to nuclear power) is basically radioactive materials yet also outperform Arkhe Reaction (like ousia and pneuma).

Arkhe on the other hand is also matter and antimatter, Arkhe is an energy consisting of matter and antimatter. Now Arkhium is able to separate these matter and antimatter which us Ousia and Pneuma. And apparently, this separation can also be reversed.

Manipulating Arkhe is basically manipulating Matter and Antimatter, while Manipulating Arkhium is manipulating radioactive energy and even Gravity because those researches once trying to make the court of fontaine flying in the air just like Celestia using this Arkhium.

precision-machined mechanical component that counteracts the effects of gravity via high-speed rotations almost impossible to capture with the naked eye.
In its long history, the Fontaine Research Institute of Kinetic Energy Engineering has always warred against a flood that once washed countless lives away, and may yet cover the earth and sky someday in the future, searching for a means to survive.
Arkhium, with its immense energetic potential and power to break the shackles of earth, was once considered the key to the gate of salvation. Though the experimental device built around it failed to achieve the expected results, Fontainian research into it actually began long ago, and ended without any trouble. It has the property of separating matter — or should one say, things that are not specific types of matter. –"Tourbillon Device"

A large device designed by the late Edwin Eastinghouse. It has the ability to "counteract" the effects of gravity. According to the original design intentions, this was the first step in a plan to turn Fontaine into a city in the sky, so never again would the people have to worry about the waves that once swept over the land. Even if all seven nations were to be swallowed by the deeps, the elegant Court of Fontaine would float above it all, just like Celestia. Even the secrets of the universe would no longer seem so distant.
The Arkhium in the device's core has the characteristics of "splitting" or "precipitation," and can take matter, or certain things outside of matter, and separate them. It is said that this process can be reversed, but the Fontaine Research Institute is infatuated only with the physical effects it can produce.

 

[MSahla]

So Neuvillette who can actually manipulating Ousianeuma should get Matter and Antimatter Manipulation

 

[Puppet43]

So Neuvillette who can actually manipulating Ousianeuma should get Matter and Antimatter Manipulation

And Gravity too because of the same boss drop description
Clorinde with Matter/Antimatter and Gravity manip is so funny

 

[MSahla]

And Gravity too because of the same boss drop description
Clorinde with Matter/Antimatter and Gravity manip is so funny

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