Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[Puppet43]

Its basically like this cutscene where Mavuika unlocking Ronova's power with 6 heroes but in that fight she and traveler used the 6 totems to represent the 6 heroes because obviously those 6 heroes cannot join the fight.

Look how instead of each one reciting the verse of their ancient names in the fight of Gosoythoth they say the things they think about the traveler which was an important part in the creation of their ancient name lol

And those 6 totems of 6 heroes she brought in the fight is the proof to helped them fighting against Gosoythoth

Those are good lines coming from the Act 4 aren't they?

Now the question is when did she triumph over the abyss? Is it in Act 4? No, its in act 5. They only temporarily win over the abyss in act 4, that does not make them triumph over the abyss because the abyss still exist in the Night Kingdom.

That just means the pact wasn't completed in Act 4 because the abyss wasn't destroyed, so Ronova couldn't ask for Mavuika's head.

abysall dragonlike creatire as gosoy in mavuikas animated short

That is a fraud, stated to be killed in the same animated short

 

[MSahla]

Are you trying to tell me that Gosoythoth, despite being damaged to the point of needing to retreat (the definition of oneshot includes knocking out an enemy with one hit) in Act 4 by Mavuika's amped attack, was able to withstand Mavuika's attacks without any problems without consequences? (The sword is a bonus to Mavuika's AP, so it's worse). And let's not even consider the inconsistencies that would come with this, since the Traveler doesn't have a Ronova amp but can match the supposedly amped Mavuika, which means that Raiden Ei and Albedo are at the same level.It is more consistent that Mavuika only used Ronova's powers in Act 4, since in that scene she knocked Gosoythoth down with a blow while in Act 5 the supposedly amped Mavuika did not tickle him and she needed the Pyro traveler and the sword.

OF COURSE, Gosoythoth did not take any damage from that 2 punches of Mavuika because she wasn't amped yet, if he really got a damage, he would like screaming in pain like what he did when we hit him 3 times after we purified the totems, like you literally can see mavuika didn't give any damage to him.

Even if the Traveler wasn't using Ronova's power, he was still able to keep up with Mavuika being amped by Ronova's power, thats just simply makes him got the 5-B too. He could keep up with her not only because of his ancient name but also those 6 heroes and tribes.

But the Traveler at that time should also under Ronova's power because its for both of them to kill Gosoythoth, Anyone who can keep with current traveler doesn't necessarily got the 5-B because its exclusive only in Natlan, Traveler used the Nightsoul's Blessing and got temporarily buffed by Ronova's power and it makes him stronger than before.

He can't use Nightsoul's Blessing outside of Natlan unless theres a proof him using it outside natlan, so don't equalized current traveler outside natlan with the traveler in natlan using Nightsoul's blessing, they're not the same..

I would say that the cut they make with the sword is an ability of said object, not of either of the 2 specifically.
And I don't know what you mean by that it affects both, the awakening of the ancient name only affects Aether, but it is not a physical or stats boost, it is pure emotional help, Mavuika simply has stats equal to the Pyro Traveler, that's why both can damage, react, tank Gosoythoth and lift the sword

Not really? The awakening of his ancient name not only giving him Nightsoul's Blessing but a strenght that is strong enough to keep up with Mavuika being amped with Ronova's power.

Look how instead of each one reciting the verse of their ancient names in the fight of Gosoythoth they say the things they think about the traveler which was an important part in the creation of their ancient name lol

Duh? This part the Traveler is more highlighted because he's just awakened his Ancient Name, but that doesn't mean thats only for him not Mavuika, its for both of them, they literally lifting up that claymore and then a fire blowing up to the sky.

That just means the pact wasn't completed in Act 4 because the abyss wasn't destroyed, so Ronova couldn't ask for Mavuika's head.

Thats why they triumph over the abyss in Act 5.

 

[Puppet43]

What are you even talking about, traveler would literally only have roniva amp in act 5 and nowhere else, mavuika has a ronova amp key fornthe exact reason vro, it only applies in That exact moment, and so it happens here lmao, i dont even know where didnyou get this idea lmaooooo

Oh yeah Shades give powers to a Descender freely, yeah consistent with lore (Shades and HP hate ******* Descenders) and by this reasoning wouldn't Ronova had ask for 2 deads instead of just Mavuikas?

thing is without the sword they would literallt not be able to beat gosoy and they cant even damage bro

You can only enter the phase 2 of Gosoythoths battle when he is at 85% of his hp so yeah, they deal something

hes still LEAGUE above them and can easily beat them over and over

"Easily beat them but Traveler was just fine by tanking Gosoythoth's attack, bro is just a slight AP increase, but is not as far as saying Gosoy can oneshot them when even before the totems or the swords bro just went to a haze state

Even if the Traveler wasn't using Ronova's power, he was still able to keep up with Mavuika being amped by Ronova's power, thats just simply makes him got the 5-B too

So bassicly Albedo, Ei, Shogun (Puppet), Little one in his adult amp, The Chess game are equals to Shade amped Archons, great (Even worst when you consider the fact that Sinners are 5B but via this ass scaling we are making 1/10 Rerir about FP Sinner lvl, OR WHY DO WE HAVE XIHICOATL AT 6B WHEN CORRUPTED BUT WE ARE SAYING GOSOYTHOTH IS 5B WHEN BRO WAS MIMICKING THE CORRUPTED XIHICOATL AND STILL SHOULD BE WEAKER LOL)

 

[MSahla]

So bassicly Albedo, Ei, Shogun (Puppet), Little one in his adult amp, The Chess game are equals to Shade amped Archons, great (Even worst when you consider the fact that Sinners are 5B but via this ass scaling we are making 1/10 Rerir about FP Sinner lvl, OR WHY DO WE HAVE XIHICOATL AT 6B WHEN CORRUPTED BUT WE ARE SAYING GOSOYTHOTH IS 5B WHEN BRO WAS MIMICKING THE CORRUPTED XIHICOATL AND STILL SHOULD BE WEAKER LOL)

Thats not even Nightsoul's Blessing traveler they keep up with

Anyone who can keep with current traveler doesn't necessarily got the 5-B because its exclusive only in Natlan, Traveler used the Nightsoul's Blessing and got temporarily buffed by Ronova's power and it makes him stronger than before.

He can't use Nightsoul's Blessing outside of Natlan unless theres a proof him using it outside natlan, so don't equalized current traveler outside natlan with the traveler in natlan using Nightsoul's blessing, they're not the same..

 

[Puppet43]

OR WHY DO WE HAVE XIHICOATL AT 6B WHEN CORRUPTED BUT WE ARE SAYING GOSOYTHOTH IS 5B WHEN BRO WAS MIMICKING THE CORRUPTED XIHICOATL AND STILL SHOULD BE WEAKER LOL

I low key think we all should agree on this scaling:
Pyro Traveler = Mavuika (Base) = Xbalanque in the kid's body <= Gosoythoth < Xbalanque Prime (x3 times stronger than his kid body form) = Corrupted Xihicoatl << Prime Xihicoatl
This low key makes the best sense and consistency

 

[Puppet43]

Anyone who can keep with current traveler doesn't necessarily got the 5-B because its exclusive only in Natlan, Traveler used the Nightsoul's Blessing and got temporarily buffed by Ronova's power and it makes him stronger than before.

Nightsoul's Blessing is just the ability to use Phlogiston, there no phlogiston outside of natlan = he can't use it, is as asking you to grab a knife in the middle of Mars, and btw Nightsoul's blessing isnt a quantificable big amp, so for all we know could just be x1.1 times amp lol and shouldn't be a consistency since in 5.4 he keep with Ei which is multiple times compared to Mavuika, so yeah, he was equal to Prime Archon even without Nightsoul

 

[Voidnether]

i will always say that wuwa only has better Mc because he does shit unlike genshin one but in terms of evertthing else genshin clears
(combat wise its just taken from pgr so theres nothing to compare there)
just mention how good 1x story was and you won

Genshin Mc lately rn aint playing bruh.

But the difference is Aether fights Stronger opponents while Rover is the strongest character in his own verse, so ofcourse he gonna appear more badass because all he does is beating fodders

Rover isn't even the strongest if he consistently struggles against the Lament like it's concerning how much memory reset this mf does just to eventually end up with ZERO progress at all and don't get me started how like the character interaction revolves around this mf + Literally dating simulator, like how do you explain 2.4, 2.5 and 2.6 if it's not that and man Rover could do that treatment to Iuno but not to Phrolova is insane (And it's the same BS too where Lupa dissapears eventually, then Phrolova and then Iuno with the surviving characters just never appearing the next patch). Traveler on the other hand though, mf lost so many times (Like he just won cause of the plot, there's no way it isn't) + ghosted for atleast 5 years and ongoing by his own sister. Genshin's only bad thing is the protagonist fr cause why does he even want to do allat when he can just dgaf but oh yeah it's because of the plot!!

I'm convinced Traveler doesn't have any chance of redemption anymore if the entire story just revolves around him being ghosted by Lumine for 20 years. We're like 15 more years at the least, dude this is like so much worse than like the relationship I had with my gf which I just ended months ago cause the entire relationship was like this the whole time for 4 years straight (Also ironic how I met her in 2021 through Genshin)

Like, if they would only be reunited 15 years later instead of when the Teyvat chapter ends. This is unarguably tens of thousands of times worse than rent a girlfriend and I'm sure many people noticed this too

 

[MSahla]

Nightsoul's Blessing is just the ability to use Phlogiston, there no phlogiston outside of natlan = he can't use it, is as asking you to grab a knife in the middle of Mars,

Thats why you shouldn't equalized him with and without Nightsoul's blessing

and btw Nightsoul's blessing isnt a quantificable big amp, so for all we know could just be x1.1 times amp lol

Says who? His Nightsoul's blessing can keep up with 5-B mavuika, what you talking. bros a descender, ofc, his thing would be better than the normal ones.

Natlan Traveler should be like
"6-B, 5-B with Nightsoul's Blessing."

and shouldn't be a consistency since in 5.4 he keep with Ei which is multiple times compared to Mavuika,

Ei wasn't even serious

so yeah, he was equal to Prime Archon even without Nightsoul

No, i don't even think current him without Nightsoul's blessing will tank Full Power Musou Isshin atp.

 

[Puppet43]

His Nightsoul's blessing can keep up with 5-B mavuika

Because he aint 5B to begin

No, i don't even think current him without Nightsoul's blessing will tank Full Power Musou Isshin atp.

To bad he can hurt mfs that can take Ei's hits (6B Chiyo Nightmare)

what you talking. bros a descender, ofc, his thing would be better than the normal ones.

good burden of proof you have

Natlan Traveler should be like
"6-B, 5-B with Nightsoul's Blessing."

"6-B, higher with Nightsoul's Blessing."

Even worst when you consider the fact that Sinners are 5B but via this ass scaling we are making 1/10 Rerir about FP Sinner lvl, OR WHY DO WE HAVE XIHICOATL AT 6B WHEN CORRUPTED BUT WE ARE SAYING GOSOYTHOTH IS 5B WHEN BRO WAS MIMICKING THE CORRUPTED XIHICOATL AND STILL SHOULD BE WEAKER LOL

Btw try to make this consistent in you ahh scale

 

[MSahla]

Because he aint 5B to begin

To bad he can hurt mfs that can take Ei's hits (6B Chiyo Nightmare)

good burden of proof you have

"6-B, higher with Nightsoul's Blessing."

He is 5-B, the proof is he can keep up with Mavuika being amped by Ronova's power
And how funny that thats not even Ei using her Musou Isshin full power.

Btw try to make this consistent in you ahh scale

Prime Xiuhcoatl > Gosoythoth = Corrupted Xiuhcoatl

 

[Puppet43]

He is 5-B, the proof is he can keep up with Mavuika being amped by Ronova's power

Still u haven't proof that, (btw this is becoming circular)

And how funny that thats not even Ei using her Musou Isshin full power.

As if only Musou Isshin was the only reason she is 6B

Gosoythoth = Corrupted Xiuhcoatl

And Corrupted Xiuhcoatl is 6B, therefore you agree on my scale thanks
Do i heavely dout they are comparable when bro couldnt even copy his size let alone his full arsenal and therefore i dout even he managed to copy the powers completely

Pyro Traveler = Mavuika (Base) = Xbalanque in the kid's body <= Gosoythoth < Xbalanque Prime (x3 times stronger than his kid body form) = Corrupted Xihicoatl << Prime Xihicoatl

 

[MSahla]

Still u haven't proof that, (btw this is becoming circular)

Already and many times, i aint repeating that again so good luck read it again.

As if only Musou Isshin was the only reason she is 6B

I Never said she 6-B because of her musou isshin anyway

And Corrupted Xiuhcoatl is 6B, therefore you agree on my scale thanks
Do i heavely dout they are comparable when bro couldnt even copy his size let alone his full arsenal and therefore i dout even he managed to copy the powers completely

I also think Gosoythoth isn't even copying the entire xiuhcoatl, he just re-animate its form with the basic fire infusion on the sword. That abyssal sword on its Left Hand isn't Xiuhcoatl's but Gosoythot's sword, Xiuhcoatl only had one sword.

 

[Puppet43]

Already and many times

Your only proof is 6 obsidian sticks, they call you 007
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7 ways to headcannon some obsidian sticks to Ronova

I also think Gosoythoth isn't even copying the entire xiuhcoatl, he just re-animate its form with the basic fire infusion on the sword. That abyssal sword on its Left Hand isn't Xiuhcoatl's but Gosoythot's sword, Xiuhcoatl only had one sword.

Still 6B wrap it up bro

 

[MSahla]

Your only proof is 6 obsidian sticks, they call you 007
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Yeah you would say that if you failed to comprehend what i said, theres no headcanon, i already provide the evidences and you also ignoring many things that i provide and said.

So yeah, thats not even my problem anyway, Even @PedjaTarzan know this easily.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

He is 5-B, the proof is he can keep up with Mavuika being amped by Ronova's power
And how funny that thats not even Ei using her Musou Isshin full power.

Prime Xiuhcoatl > Gosoythoth = Corrupted Xiuhcoatl

gosoy should not be = corrupted xiuhcoatl, because it would also make corrupted xiuhcoatl 5B but you made him 6B
Gosoy should be 5B because it took literally 5B levels of power (Ronova) to beat him in the first place

 

[MSahla]

gosoy should not be = corrupted xiuhcoatl, because it would also make corrupted xiuhcoatl 5B but you made him 6B
Gosoy should be 5B because it took literally 5B levels of power (Ronova) to beat him in the first place

I guess so then.

 

[Puppet43]

Somehow Woomy (In discord) has made me change my mind, so yeah Gosoythoth is scaling to Mavuika amp whatever
But a better inverse scale since we don't know how much power Ronova gave to Mavuika would be:

• Xbalanque revived is in 1/3 of his strength and is equal to base Mavuika
• Xbalanque Prime fought Corrupted Xihicoatl
• Mavuika (Amped and sword), Traveler (With the sword), Xbalanque Prime, Xihicoatl Corrupted and Gosoythoth are x3 amped of Archons ap (Currently would be 73.86 Teratons (6B STILL LOL)

 

[Puppet43]

gosoy should not be = corrupted xiuhcoatl, because it would also make corrupted xiuhcoatl 5B but you made him 6B
Gosoy should be 5B because it took literally 5B levels of power (Ronova) to beat him in the first place

Heavely dout Ronova just gave the 99.99% of her powers to Mavuika, is most likely that she just gave a small fragment

 

[MSahla]

is most likely that she just gave a small fragment

Obviously

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Heavely dout Ronova just gave the 99.99% of her powers to Mavuika, is most likely that she just gave a small fragment

its not like we are gonna revise god tiers one day so do what you wish for jt

Somehow Woomy (In discord) has made me change my mind, so yeah Gosoythoth is scaling to Mavuika amp whatever
But a better inverse scale since we don't know how much power Ronova gave to Mavuika would be:

• Xbalanque revived is in 1/3 of his strength and is equal to base Mavuika
• Xbalanque Prime fought Corrupted Xihicoatl
• Mavuika (Amped and sword), Traveler (With the sword), Xbalanque Prime, Xihicoatl Corrupted and Gosoythoth are x3 amped of Archons ap (Currently would be 73.86 Teratons (6B STILL LOL)

Thats fine lol

 

[MSahla]

its not like we are gonna revise god tiers one day so do what you wish for it

WE WILL AFTER NOD-KRAI
Heavenly Principles will show up and reveal everything.

 

[MSahla]

Do y'all think Surtalogi should have every Skirk's abilities? Because he taught her everything.

 

[Voidnether]

Do y'all think Surtalogi should have every Skirk's abilities? Because he taught her everything.

Dude the last time I used Childe's abilities on Skirk against Shigaraki like I got ganked up on by how much people bro cause they all said Skirk never did that

 

[MSahla]

Dude the last time I used Childe's abilities on Skirk against Shigaraki like I got ganked up on by how much people bro cause they all said Skirk never did that

Well in Skirk and Childe case, Skirk only taught childe his combat abilities, like you can see the similarity on their animation. But Skirk didn't taught his Hax like summoning that giant whale and others.

While different from that, Surtalogi literally taught Skirk everything from 0, he already said that he taught everything he knew to Skirk and then leave her.

 

[Puppet43]

WE WILL AFTER NOD-KRAI

Calc mods have to accept my calcs lmao
Anyways Flins and Ineffa saying uwu

 

[MSahla]

Calc mods have to accept my calcs lmao
Anyways Flins and Ineffa saying uwu

I can't see that video

 

[Furina003]

in my opinion, the power of the 6 totems is more precisely not a power given directly by ronova, but this is a rule made by xbalanque using ronova's power, so ronova indirectly helps but does not provide blessings directly but through the rules that were once promised between ronova and xbalanque, the ancient name is one of them. anyone who can collect the 6 ancient names of natlan heroes will get the power that xbalanque once used.

by the way the traveler does not use ronova power, but only tumaini power, therefore in the end, the only one who has to pay is mavuika not including the traveler

 

[MSahla]

Feels like theres still something missing.. What is it i wonder..
Can y'all tell me..

Sahlwrld/Surtalogi

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[AthelChan]

 

[Furina003]

Feels like theres still something missing.. What is it i wonder..
Can y'all tell me..

Sahlwrld/Surtalogi

vsbattles.fandom.com

In the case of surtalogi, it is not shapeshifting, but avatar creation, because basically surtalogi is a creature that no longer has a physical form because physical form no longer means anything to it. Shapeshifting is an ability for a character who still has a physical form but can change his physical form, like Nahida did when she took the form of a fungus.

 

[Furina003]

My suggestion is, don't publish the profile until more information about surtalogi is shown, because now we still have very little information for surtalogi, instead of creating a new profile that still has minimal information, it's better to fix the existing profile, there are many genshin profiles that need to be fixed

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

My suggestion is, don't publish the profile until more information about surtalogi is shown, because now we still have very little information for surtalogi, instead of creating a new profile that still has minimal information, it's better to fix the existing profile, there are many genshin profiles that need to be fixed

we literally have pages on the shades who are the most featless of them all

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Feels like theres still something missing.. What is it i wonder..
Can y'all tell me..

Sahlwrld/Surtalogi

vsbattles.fandom.com

how does becoming many times stronger than the world makes him comparable to neuvi? lol

 

[Furina003]

we literally have pages on the shades who are the most featless of them all

Naberius, ronova and asmoday really don't have enough feats, but for istaroth it's fine for me because there's already a lot of information, naberius was never even discussed at all in the genshin story

 

[Furina003]

how does becoming many times stronger than the world makes him comparable to neuvi? lol

I'm not even sure neuvillette is comparable to skirk

 

[MSahla]

how does becoming many times stronger than the world makes him comparable to neuvi? lol

Duh? The sinners can rival the world, same goes to Neuvillette, but Surtalogi is stated to be "Many Times Stronger even when Alone" Instead of just rival.

That applies to any world he went to including his homeland Teyvat, this is just basic common knowledge of the Sinners. After all, Sinners is in the God Tier of the verse.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Duh? The sinners can rival the world, same goes to Neuvillette, but Surtalogi is stated to be "Many Times Stronger even when Alone" Instead of just rival.

That applies to any world he went to including his homeland Teyvat, this is just basic common knowledge of the Sinners. After all, Sinners is in the God Tier of the verse.

The sinners can rival the world however Surtalogi is stated to be stronger than he was at the time he was rivaling the world.

How does Rivaling/being equal with the world makes one comparable to one who is many times stronger than the world? Neuvilette is in fact never stated to be stronger than the world only to rival it.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

I'm not even sure neuvillette is comparable to skirk

He would literally lose to a hungry Narwhal

 

[Puppet43]

Xihicoatl lore in this weapon's lore (leaks)

how does becoming many times stronger than the world makes him comparable to neuvi? lol

I'm not even sure neuvillette is comparable to skirk

@Giannysmag nuke this dudes houses

 

[MSahla]

The sinners can rival the world however Surtalogi is stated to be stronger than he was at the time he was rivaling the world.

How does Rivaling/being equal with the world makes one comparable to one who is many times stronger than the world? Neuvilette is in fact never stated to be stronger than the world only to rival it.

Yeah by our logic Surtalogi should be stronger than Neuvillette but we don't have Direct evidence from the game for that.

We still don't have direct evidence Surtalogi is being stronger than Neuvillette blatantly, i can't just say "he stated to be many times stronger than the world therefore he's stronger than Neuvillette". Even the shades on their profile is said at least comparable if not stronger even though by our logic is Shades like Istaroth and Ronova should be stronger than him.

Neuvilette be saying he can judge the rest of the gods and even the Heavenly Principles showing him that he got a lot of potential even though we don't know how and kinda impossible by our logic.

So yeah, keep playing genshin impact to find out.