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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

Neuvi cant resist being transumated into blackhole RAHHHH
When has Surtalogi being shown to do that?
Just wait till Rerir is involved in the moon killing and surtalogi somehow scale above him
Imagine if Moon Goddess lvl is just slightly above current traveler
SAME GUY WHO STRUGGLED AGAINST SURTALOGI'S PET BY THE WAYYYYYYY
Same pet that had a bigger durability that when fighting Surtalogi, you cant use the narwhal as a justification when it is stated multiple times that the narwhal itself had a greater durability thanks to the absorption of the PSW
Hydro Sovereign back when it fought Phanes + 4 Shades vs current Hydro Sovereign is so DIFFERENT
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Surtalogi 1 minute cameo aura farming = shade level
Surtalogi needed the help of Dain's statments to get near Shade lvl and that feat of Gold munching on a shade...
 
Imagine if Moon Goddess lvl is just slightly above current traveler
The moon goddesses should be slightly above the sovereign 😛 their authority is higher than the sovereigns as Nibuleng appointed them to govern of the world in his place.

Authority = power for the dragons~
Surtalogi needed the help of Dain's statments to get near Shade lvl and that feat of Gold munching on a shade...
Dains statement is barely relevant now and outdated 😭 Skirk statement about surtalogi already powercrept Dains statement. 😎

Surtalogi himself also states he scales above everyone lol. Heart is strength within this analogy.

"How did that story go again? 'Distance is measured by the heart, and my heart is slightly larger than the universe.'"
 
Maybe it's time we remove the likely that Skirk has all the powers and abilities of Tartaglia because Skirk teached him...
By that reasoning why doesnt Xianyun use cryo like Shenhe?
their authority is higher than the sovereigns as Nibuleng appointed them to govern of the world in his place.

Authority = power for the dragons~
Nah, in that case Authority really means Leadership, maybe Nibelung didnt see his companions worthy of being the leadership of the planet while he was going for a walk in the universe (common day stuff)
Dains statement is barely relevant now and outdated
Dain statment puts the Sinner at the lvl of Neuvi with authority btw
Skirk statement about surtalogi already powercrept Dains statement.
Which?
Surtalogi himself also states he scales above everyone
Self glaze
"How did that story go again? 'Distance is measured by the heart, and my heart is slightly larger than the universe.'"
They call him 007
0 Shades defeated
0 Sovereings fought
7 Missing children in his basement
 
This one powercrept Dains statement to oblivion lol

"Master, since you mentioned that your group once divided enough Abyssal power amongst yourselves to overturn an entire world — or at least a sixth of it..."

"How is it that you are now many times stronger than an entire world, even when alone?"
 
Skirk is potentially going to be a descender and is prolly at descender level now. few things are only a threat to her and she is not a descender because she doesn´t interact with the world.

(Space outside Teyvat is shown, followed Skirk gazing at the hole in the false sky)Surtalogi: In TeyvatSurtalogi: Those who come from beyond, with the power to reshape the fate of the world, are known as DescendersSurtalogi: But you are not yet worthy of that nameSurtalogi: Since it is I who have opened the border for youSurtalogi: You are nothing but a trespasser
 
This one powercrept Dains statement to oblivion lol

"Master, since you mentioned that your group once divided enough Abyssal power amongst yourselves to overturn an entire world — or at least a sixth of it..."

"How is it that you are now many times stronger than an entire world, even when alone?"
Remind you Dain only knew about their destructive powers in the cataclysm, so they were THAT STRONG, ofc the power hungry Surtalogi will had try to become stronger, but there nothing quantificable
Skirk is potentially going to be a descender and is prolly at descender level now.
There no a Descender lvl, Traveler was humilliated by a Shade, less than 1/4 of another Descender (Phanes) power and the 3rd descender was chopped into 7 pieces to make the gnosis
 
every genshin crt slowly drifts me away from this verse and i still get pulled back and this is just irreversible cycle
 
Remind you Dain only knew about their destructive powers in the cataclysm, so they were THAT STRONG, ofc the power hungry Surtalogi will had try to become stronger, but there nothing quantificable

There no a Descender lvl, Traveler was humilliated by a Shade, less than 1/4 of another Descender (Phanes) power and the 3rd descender was chopped into 7 pieces to make the gnosis
Even if he was humiliated by a shade, I still geniunely believe he would be above all the archons in his prime and that tells alot about being a descender. Even right now being sealed and having his power taken away is atleast archon level.

Surtalogi either way will be confirmed as a descender later on in lore or he became something greater than a descender. Him transcending teyvat and breaking the border should be an impossible feat for anything that isn´t a descender and mind you this was also before he became mega OP.
 
every genshin crt slowly drifts me away from this verse and i still get pulled back and this is just irreversible cycle
Every Tier 2 Genshin crt gets worst by the second (I one of the few people that agrees with tier 2 genshin, but damn the arguments and scales are horrible)
I still geniunely believe he would be above all the archons
As if gennually Archons were important to the top tiers rn, damn THEY GOT POWERCREEPED BY A NOD KRAI ROBOT MAID, THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE SOMEWHAT STRONG RN ARE VENTI AND XBALANQUE JUST BECAUSE SHADE AUTHORITY FEATS
Surtalogi either way will be confirmed as a descender later on in lore or he became something greater than a descender.
The heck you smocking, he still bounded to Constellations, Irminsul and shi

(Puppet 43)
I did nothing in the past 6 months (related to CRT)
Atleast this doesn´t exist anymore 😷


Peak scale
 
As if gennually Archons were important to the top tiers rn, damn THEY GOT POWERCREEPED BY A NOD KRAI ROBOT MAID, THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE SOMEWHAT STRONG RN ARE VENTI AND XBALANQUE JUST BECAUSE SHADE AUTHORITY FEATS
And Prime Traveler would still smoke venti~

Traveler could restore Teyvat even if it is destroyed.
The heck you smocking, he still bounded to Constellations, Irminsul and shi
Where? 😷 🙏 He is above fate as stated by himself and the other sinners plus he can destroy teyvat borders which is atleast Shade level.

So far only 2 characters who aren´t descenders destroyed the borders mavuika amped by the shade and Surtalogi.
 
Self glaze, if he really was above Fater he would had lowkey being the 4th Descender and Traveler the 5th
Surtalogi is also not even interacting with Teyvat since it doesn´t interest him, so he wouldn´t even be a descender by that logic nor an outsider since he isn´t in teyvat.

And let´s be fair Surtalogi would unironically oneshot Traveler and most descenders 🙏 He is considered a higher power which is always equated by the shades and H.P. There is no descender who is shade level as for right now or even considered higher power.

Mavuika could do that to yk?
by her own power without amp?
 
The third descender got packed and became gnoses 😭 🙏 Ain´t no way they are close to surtalogi as for now.

Alice and Nicole are also immune to the irminsul despite not being descenders. Alice also forbids Skirk to become a descender but even if Skirk becomes a descender, she would still get packed by Surtalogi lol.
 
Surtalogi is also not even interacting with Teyvat since it doesn´t interest him
Meet the differences between Sinners

  • Surta: This world holds no value to me (0 shades defeates, 0 sovereing fought, 7 kidnapped children under his basement)
  • Gold: This world holds to much interest (1 Shade defeated, at least 3 Archon/ or higher lvl creations, part of 3 top tiers groups)
And let´s be fair Surtalogi would unironically oneshot Traveler and most descenders
He would get slime up by Electro Sovereing
There is no descender who is shade level as for right now
Phanes is a descender
Alice and Nicole are also immune to the irminsul despite not being descenders.
Alice and Nicole are the outlier atp
 
Meet the differences between Sinners

  • Surta: This world holds no value to me (0 shades defeates, 0 sovereing fought, 7 kidnapped children under his basement)
  • Gold: This world holds to much interest (1 Shade defeated, at least 3 Archon/ or higher lvl creations, part of 3 top tiers groups)
Lol and Surtalogi pet and disciple aren't archon+ tier? But beside that the gods he faced are stronger than those in teyvat otherwise phanes wouldn't create a border to protect teyvat from the universe.
He would get slime up by Electro Sovereing
💀
Phanes is a descender
Yeah he is but the shades aren't lol (or they are by extension)
Alice and Nicole are the outlier atp
🤓 damn genshin have many outliers atp 🫠
 
Someone needs to stop this wank or genshin is doomed here.
 
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Lol and Surtalogi pet and disciple aren't archon+ tier?
Thats doesnt make my claims false do
But beside that the gods he faced are stronger than those in teyvat
Featless Gods, perhaps Guoba lvl
otherwise phanes wouldn't create a border to protect teyvat from the universe.
He created it to protect Teyvat from the Abyss, someone wasnt paying attention
damn genshin have many outliers atp
Idk about Nicole, but Alice litterally knows technology and concept from our world lol
 
He created it to protect Teyvat from the Abyss, someone wasnt paying attention
Lol not just the Abyss but also from the universe as stated in Narwhal description.
A mysterious and gargantuan creature from another world.
Poets often liken the starry sky to the ocean. They've seen or dreamt of countless bioluminescent plankton floating on a moonless sea, resembling a galaxy, or the moonlight ripped apart by waves on the sea's surface, like shimmering stars. In the most fantastical stories or outrageous lies, the stars found in the depths of the cosmos might be teeming with life, much like Teyvat, and the universe itself is akin to an ocean. Realistically speaking, however, if a profound universe full of life exists, why hasn't any of that life made contact with Teyvat?
Maybe the universe has been constantly trying to infiltrate Teyvat, or maybe a higher power created borders to protect this world.

It is also confirmed in the Book of perinheri that khaneriah had to deal with alot threats from the outside (because for whatever reason is not protected by the firmament):
Due to the Kingdom's unique position, things from outside this world were always leaking into it. The Kingdom's weapons would wipe out the calamities slipping in, but what of all the other objects? Such as, say, a child who may have come from some destroyed world?

The book of Vera's Melancholy also confirms of cosmic horrors and virus. So I doubt Phanes is trying to protect the teyvat solely from abyss when there are other threats outside teyvat. (I am not gonna claim this is true but however it may also protect teyvat from threats of the honkai verses, it´s called hoyoverse for a reason lol)
 
Lol not just the Abyss but also from the universe as stated in Narwhal description.
A mysterious and gargantuan creature from another world.
Poets often liken the starry sky to the ocean. They've seen or dreamt of countless bioluminescent plankton floating on a moonless sea, resembling a galaxy, or the moonlight ripped apart by waves on the sea's surface, like shimmering stars. In the most fantastical stories or outrageous lies, the stars found in the depths of the cosmos might be teeming with life, much like Teyvat, and the universe itself is akin to an ocean. Realistically speaking, however, if a profound universe full of life exists, why hasn't any of that life made contact with Teyvat?
Maybe the universe has been constantly trying to infiltrate Teyvat, or maybe a higher power created borders to protect this world.

It is also confirmed in the Book of perinheri that khaneriah had to deal with alot threats from the outside (because for whatever reason is not protected by the firmament):
Due to the Kingdom's unique position, things from outside this world were always leaking into it. The Kingdom's weapons would wipe out the calamities slipping in, but what of all the other objects? Such as, say, a child who may have come from some destroyed world?

The book of Vera's Melancholy also confirms of cosmic horrors and virus. So I doubt Phanes is trying to protect the teyvat solely from abyss when there are other threats outside teyvat. (I am not gonna claim this is true but however it may also protect teyvat from threats of the honkai verses, it´s called hoyoverse for a reason lol)
About the stances of the Heavenly Principles and the Shades...
Mavuika: The forces of the Abyss have always sought to corrode Teyvat. The Ley Lines were created by the Heavenly Principles, and it is only with their protection that Teyvat is able to nurture all forms of life.
Mavuika: If the Abyss had free reign, this world would become a living hell. We saw that for ourselves...
Mavuika: Any attempt by humanity to harness the power of the Abyss is met with swift punishment. The Heavenly Principles and the Shades show no mercy in that regard. Mavuika: That unyielding approach is also the source of great sorrow and hatred... The situation goes beyond a simple discussion of "right" versus "wrong."
Mavuika: Perhaps the truth will reveal itself during your future adventures.
Bro really tried to outsmart the game, that higher power is the abyss, reminder we just saw what the abyss could do to 1 nation (Gosoy's existance) now imagine that shi on a planetary or even solar system extent
 
Bro really tried to outsmart the game, that higher power is the abyss, reminder we just saw what the abyss could do to 1 nation (Gosoy's existance) now imagine that shi on a planetary or even solar system extent
Nah dude what cha even talking about 😷 🙏 Narwhal mentions Higher Power created a border to protect Teyvat, This would be at odds with the abyss. Where do you get that Higher power is abyss cuz i don´t see it in the scans. That scan you posted from Mavuika also doesn´t negate there are other forces that try to enter teyvat. I doubt mavuika even know about other existence outside of teyvat like the Book of perinheri does.
 
Nah dude what cha even talking about 😷 🙏 Narwhal mentions Higher Power created a border to protect Teyvat, This would be at odds with the abyss. Where do you get that Higher power is abyss cuz i don´t see it in the scans. That scan you posted from Mavuika also doesn´t negate there are other forces that try to enter teyvat. I doubt mavuika even know about other existence outside of teyvat like the Book of perinheri does.
Let me use Razor language to translate for u
  • Higher Power = Phanes, he created False sky cause the universe has bad stuff in it, one of many bad stuff out there is Abyss; that is why Celestia mad about Khaenriah.
  • Other forces are mostly related to Abyss (as for rn) but not all forces have to be evil, traveler not evil yet got wooped because he outside, Celestia racist against Non Teyvat beings
 
They would release a hydro claymore 4 star character in 6.0 which would mean that the element + weapon character map is completed with the addition of a new elemental reaction (even if they said they wouldn't release another back in sumeru and that dendro is final) but somehow they won't release the Light + Dark element and they got away with Skirk hiding her abyssal powers as cryo like man 💔
 
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