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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

The_Tetromino_King said:
they should be higher tbh 😭 🙏 but do tell what is your scaling?

would it be plausible that Nibelung is even the creator of the universe? since he is after the the primordial creator
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Nibelung is stated to be born in Teyvat, and he only reigns over Teyvat (Skirk's artifact description) and yeah Teyvat is planetary so this is kinda reaching given the terminology universe in GI always refers to the Abyss if anything (Light Realm not existing anymore, in which Teyvat / Human Realm is built upon the Light Realm's foundation cause Light Realm is basically the Realm of the Vishaps like Nibelung, Sovereigns, etc and they only govern Teyvat). This would contradict the entire Nibelung getting Forbidden Knowledge stuff from the very bottom of the Abyss and like when Voyager offered Nibelung to travel beyond Teyvat

If it wasn't stated by multiple sources that it's a planet lmao, even if Teyvat is like a continent at best then that'll mean the Dark Sea, etc that's outside Teyvat but not beyond Teyvat (As in the planet where Teyvat is).. I mean?
 
Voidnether said:
Nibelung is stated to be born in Teyvat, and he only reigns over Teyvat (Skirk's artifact description) and yeah Teyvat is planetary so this is kinda reaching given the terminology universe in GI always refers to the Abyss if anything (Light Realm not existing anymore, in which Teyvat / Human Realm is built upon the Light Realm's foundation cause Light Realm is basically the Realm of the Vishaps like Nibelung, Sovereigns, etc and they only govern Teyvat). This would contradict the entire Nibelung getting Forbidden Knowledge stuff from the very bottom of the Abyss and like when Voyager offered Nibelung to travel beyond Teyvat
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Yeah, I stand corrected on my take. I may think Phanes is the one who created the universe though with the description of Genesis Crystals and how Istaroth is descripted as Mother of 14 billion and this specific statement.
 
The_Tetromino_King said:
Yeah, I stand corrected on my take. I may think Phanes is the one who created the universe though with the description of Genesis Crystals and how Istaroth is descripted as Mother of 14 billion and this specific statement.
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Tbh, personally for me it's neither one of them. The one creating the Universe would be pretty much very related as the source of the Abyss themselves, it's honestly insane to me that the word Universe is very consistently refering to the Abyss if anything here. Like, if Phanes created the Universe then why bother invading Teyvat then sealing it off with the False Sky when Phanes separated the microcosm of the world with the Universe in Before Sun & Moon. According to Narwhal's description, and how the Abyss is only capable of entering Teyvat after Nibelung came back with Forbidden Knowledge. I think you already understand it imo
 
Voidnether said:
Tbh, personally for me it's neither one of them. The one creating the Universe would be pretty much very related as the source of the Abyss themselves, it's honestly insane to me that the word Universe is very consistently refering to the Abyss if anything here. Like, if Phanes created the Universe then why bother invading Teyvat then sealing it off with the False Sky when Phanes separated the microcosm of the world with the Universe in Before Sun & Moon
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make sense, the abyss is referred as the true Universe, which is weird because i assume the universe behind the false sky isn´t the abyss tho. the abyss will also remain even if stars collapse and it is outside of phanes reach. no wonder it could make the sinners so op by sharing the abyssal forces.
 
[Lore Leak] — "Mainland" Snezhnaya

Apparently, according to the Textmap (textual data) from version 6.0, what we know as "Snezhnaya" doesn’t actually exist. Quoting and adapting from the Textmap: they have no true history of their own, so they invented this grand advanced civilization called Snezhnaya to hide their barren past — No document stored in the House of Daena that describes Snezhnaya comes from Snezhnaya, nor was it written by a Snezhnayan.

However, to simplify things: just imagine Remuria and Natlan released respectively in 4.6 and 5.5 — a rough way to think of them as the expansion of the “Old Nation,” what existed before the current nation. Hyperborea is essentially Old Snezhnaya and home to the Snowland Fae, followers of the old Cryo Archon (Belyi Tsar), where he reigned over the Northern Lands.
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The Hyperboreanification of Genshin Impact, Snezhnaya is not real and it's a propaganda machine designed to keep us trapped by the Heavenly Principles to believe they were REAL
 
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Skirk vs Shigaraki

Master Swordswoman vs the Symbol of "Fear" (We know that's supposed to be Surtalogi's title, smh!!!) So, Skirk traveled to this particular place called Earth that can sustain her existence other than Teyvat. There, she met this kid named Shigaraki who proclaimed he's the symbol of fear so she...
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Why are Skirk's first AP and Speed justifications just straight up wrong, who made that profile
 
Bakunawa quest just prooven even futher the Low 2C, sad that rn no scales to bro(do you could make an argument for Durin because he is stated to have similar powers, do a little weaker, Durin top 2 playable trust), because we just fight his avatar, a fragment off his powers
 
Puppet43 said:
Bakunawa quest just prooven even futher the Low 2C, sad that rn no scales to bro(do you could make an argument for Durin because he is stated to have similar powers, do a little weaker, Durin top 2 playable trust), because we just fight his avatar, a fragment off his powers
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well the sinners scale to him.
 
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If it wasn't for Istaroth's authority, Venti wouldn't even be capable of cutting a part of the timeline in there. If someone has the authority of a Shade, they scale that "high" so much that they're practically above Sovereigns 💔
 
death, time, space, and life are just standard terms; the abilities of the shades go far beyond those fundamental aspects.

Death = the end of everything
Life = the beginning of everything
Time = time, narrative, and history
Space = the sense of distance, size, etc.
 
Sahlwrld said:
death, time, space, and life are just standard terms; the abilities of the shades go far beyond those fundamental aspects.

Death = the end of everything
Life = the beginning of everything
Time = time, narrative, and history
Space = the sense of distance, size, etc.
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Yet Mavuika & Venti having a part of their authority the same way back when Neuvillette only had a part of his authority since the other were on the Hydro Archon's throne, they don't even scale higher than the 3 Moon Sisters that were created by Nibelung smh
 
Voidnether said:
Yet Mavuika & Venti having a part of their authority the same way back when Neuvillette only had a part of his authority since the other were on the Hydro Archon's throne, they don't even scale higher than the 3 Moon Sisters that were created by Nibelung smh
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The same moon sisters who got took over by the shades and phanes btw.

Moon Sisters ain't above the Shades.
 
Voidnether said:
Who said Moon Sisters are above Shades
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Are u talking about the Seven Sovereigns?

Archons with a fragments of the Shades power isn't automatically stronger than the Sovereigns who manage to tanked the Full Power of 4 Shades and Phanes at the same time.

Unless theres a direct evidence that proves so.
 
Sahlwrld said:
Are u talking about the Seven Sovereigns?

Archons with a fragments of the Shades power isn't automatically stronger than the Sovereigns who manage to tanked the Full Power of 4 Shades and Phanes at the same time.

Unless theres a direct evidence that proves so.
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There is no evidence of them tanking power of shades tbh, how difficult that war was, and power dynamics are unknown, just using duration of war as quantification of someone's strength is just plain bs
 
OmniScalator said:
There is no evidence of them tanking power of shades tbh, how difficult that war was, and power dynamics are unknown, just using duration of war as quantification of someone's strength is just plain bs
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I mean if that war was easy win for the heavenly principles side, it wouldn't take that 40 years.

Not to mention, Kukulkan who's also participated in that war said compared to that war the Archons are NOTHING.
 
Sahlwrld said:
Are u talking about the Seven Sovereigns?

Archons with a fragments of the Shades power isn't automatically stronger than the Sovereigns who manage to tanked the Full Power of 4 Shades and Phanes at the same time.

Unless theres a direct evidence that proves so.
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Archons with a fragment of the Shades's power definitely scale higher than the Seven Sovereigns, but they're still below the Three Moon Sisters nonetheless. Full Authority Neuvillette were struggling against the Narwhal in which it's just a plaything for Skirk and her master Surtalogi, Before Sun & Moon stuff were mostly because of Nibelung. It's the only reason why even Heavenly Principles (Phanes) were still dormant after all these that has happened since Cataclysm were handled by Asmoday herself
 
Sahlwrld said:
I mean if that war was easy win for the heavenly principles side, it wouldn't take that 40 years.
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It all depends on unknown factors, war can be thousands of years long no matter how easy it is if strong party doesn't want to crush and genocide their opponent, and opponent is adamant on continuing no matter what until they realise it is impossible war and atlast give up

This is just one of many possibilities, so just by duration of war, saying that dragons are relative to shades is not possible
Sahlwrld said:
Not to mention, Kukulkan who's also participated in that war said compared to that war the Archons are NOTHING.
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Well, he was comparing Archons to shades, obviously they are weaker, and he also says that all of dragon forces right now can "match" Archons, not surpass, meaning they are atleast right now relative
 
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