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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread



The Dragon King Nibelung created the Sun and the Moons is probably even before the Seven Dragon Sovereigns is existed as the developer said that it even predates the seven elements.

Now you might think "but aren't they meant that its the Seven Elements that the Heavenly Principles created? While we know that the Sovereigns are using Original Energy like Phlogiston and Primordial Sea"

The answer is Yes they are but lets think about that, that original energy must come from somewhere doesn't it? it wouldn't exist without light refracting it.



Or in another words, i don't think those statement only belong to the seven elements in the Heavenly Principles era, but it's also belong to how the seven sovereigns manifested "naturally" Through the light of the moons, hence why they said that power of the moon is the PUREST FORM OF POWER.
 
OmniScalator said:
Well,I would doubt this vague description since according to voyager death of their sun was something disastrous for dragons.

Also no need to search as sun is already dead due to age
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Here it says
Though death would one day bring an endless night, and the sun it gazed upon was but a fleeting ember
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This is more like talking about the Voyager's perception kinda a thing, like i remember theres a statement that the Adeptus sees the movement of the mountain as if it were the same as seeing clouds moving. Its essentially something like that.
 
Sahlwrld said:
This is more like talking about the Voyager's perception kinda a thing, like i remember theres a statement that the Adeptus sees the movement of the mountain as if it were the same as seeing clouds moving. Its essentially something like that.
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I don't think it is just about perception since even in skirks animation we can clearly see that star is most probably beyond red giant phase and dead now

Check out this theory

 
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Thread is equivalent to that one NPC who genuinely still thought Inazuma were still fighting
 
Voidnether said:
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Thread is equivalent to that one NPC who genuinely still thought Inazuma were still fighting
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Voidnether said:
Guizhong or whoever it is created like a pocket dimension with the sun in it lmao
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Most gods/adeptis have this idiotic feat of creating cosmic bodies with in their pocket dimensions, sadly we dont know if they are real or nah, but Nibelung case most likely refears to the real sun that Teyvat's planet was rotating
 


The description of the Iktomisaurus confirmed that their Ancestors which is the Ancient Dragons from the Light Realm does not have physical form and more like a spirits.

This further supports the idea that the Light Realm are the realm without a Physical Form and they are once only free will, lacking of life, death, space and time.

When The Voyager came to Teyvat, she was also just a free will while her body is like.. Resting on "Celestial disk-construct".
So when the Voyager came to the Light Realm, she's just a free will without a physical form.
 
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Puppet43 said:
Key word: "According to legend"
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And that description is still true and reliable anyway? What, you wanna say its not true because it said "according to the legend"?

descriptions like this or like character stories in characters profile and weapon descriptions are narrated by the Author/Narrator to explain the history of those descriptions and character, although sometimes there's also a character statement, it's easy to distinguish between the author's statement and the character's statement.
 
Sahlwrld said:
And that description is still true and reliable anyway? What, you wanna say its not true because it said "according to the legend"?
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According to Spanish Folclore, The Pyrenees were created because the rock god raised them. Now I ask you, is that true? Because it's a legend, it must be.
 
Puppet43 said:
According to Spanish Folclore, The Pyrenees were created because the rock god raised them. Now I ask you, is that true? Because it's a legend, it must be.
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When you realize thats just a mythology while this is are talking about the real thing in the past long long time ago lmao.

What a false equivalance.
Its more like, according to the legend of the history, the germany once started the world war 2 and his ancestor are died during that war.
 
The fact that you used a mythological character which is not even real in existence to the literal Ancestors of this Iktomisaurus who's literally exist in the ancient time as we literally know that the ancient dragons are devolved into a Saurians.

What a joke
 
Sahlwrld said:
Its more like, according to the legend of the history, the germany once started the world war 2 and his ancestor are died during that war.
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That's not a legend, that's a factual prooven statment, while for example la Encantada it's a legend
In essence, the legend narrates the apparition of a beautiful young woman combing her long hair with a golden comb, around Saint John's Eve and in the vicinity of a castle, cave or other natural site charged with strong symbolism. The encounter with it can arouse an enchantment of the spectator, who is generally a shepherd or farmer.
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Sahlwrld said:
Alright then, prove it to me if that Rock God was literally exist and create those Pyrenees which is a mountains.
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  • The Pyreness exist
  • Is stated to be a legend
Must be real according to your logic, or are you xenophobic towards Spanish legends?
 
Puppet43 said:
  • The Pyreness exist
  • Is stated to be a legend
Must be real according to your logic, or are you xenophobic towards Spanish legends?
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Yeah the pyreness exist but what about the rock god? Those legend/stories are made by people and saying "oh this mountain must be made by this rock god" Without even knowing/proving that that rock god is even real lmaoo.

Im asking for that Rock God is real or not, not the pyreneess lil bro, if that rock god is not real then its just simply story made by people not based on reality of that Rock God lol.

Not like this one, the Ancestors of the Iktomosaurus or saurians in general, they're the descendant of the Ancient Dragons that exist long long time ago, so they're real thing in a literal and a physical sense.
not like that Rock God of Myth of yours that you trying to provide which are not real in a literal or physical sense — they are part of stories, beliefs, and traditions passed down through generations in different cultures.
 
Like.. Why are u even think that description is not true anyway? That description literally talking about the Ancestors of the Saurians which exist long time ago and the author is explaining what is their ancestors are in the ancient time. Bruhh..
 
Sahlwrld said:
Those legend/stories are made by people and saying "oh this mountain must be made by this rock god" Without even knowing/proving that that rock god is even real lmaoo.
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Same applies to the Genshin context we are talking about lol
Sahlwrld said:
the Ancestors of the Iktomosaurus or saurians in general, they're the descendant of the Ancient Dragons
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Phylogenetically speaking, the Saurians are only an evolved branch of the superfamily called "Dragons" that could even argue that the birds in Genshin are dragons because the Saurians seem to give you clues that dragons evolved to the development of beaks, bipedalism, plumage, etc., basically they are a parallel to real-life dinosaurs. They are not descendants as such, since descendants are what you call your children or lineage. In phylogenetic terms, that term is misused and you should not use it again. (I have been studying the Biology and Phylogeny of a Chinese Game where women have more breasts than faces 😭 🙏 )
Sahlwrld said:
they are part of stories, beliefs, and traditions passed down through generations in different cultures.
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Just like "According to legend" !!!
Sahlwrld said:
not like that Rock God of Myth of yours that you trying to provide which are not real
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Xenophobia at its finest, would tolerate some chinese text saying "According to legend" but not an Spanish dude saying "according to a legend here where i live" (Please these is sarcasm, dont take anything serious)
 
Yeah, according to the legends statement cannot be taken as a reliable source unless there's a third party supporting the statement
 
Puppet43 said:
Same applies to the Genshin context we are talking about lol
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No lol, these ancient dragons which is the ancestors of the Saurians is a real thing that lives in the past, and that description is explaining what they are in the ancient time for being non-physical being and just a free will almost like a spirits.

This case has so much evidence to support like how the Voyager visited Teyvat and met Nibelung merely just a sentient will who doesn't have Physical Body.
Like how the Light Realm is the world which there are no Space, Time, Life and Death.

Those Rock God from that myth of yours is just people's beliefs, literally like other mythologial characters like Zeus, Thor, Odin etc.
Puppet43 said:
Phylogenetically speaking, the Saurians are only an evolved branch of the superfamily called "Dragons" that could even argue that the birds in Genshin are dragons because the Saurians seem to give you clues that dragons evolved to the development of beaks, bipedalism, plumage, etc., basically they are a parallel to real-life dinosaurs. They are not descendants as such, since descendants are what you call your children or lineage. In phylogenetic terms, that term is misused and you should not use it again. (I have been studying the Biology and Phylogeny of a Chinese Game where women have more breasts than faces 😭 🙏 )
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No, the birds are not the descendant of the dragons whatsoever, As it says that the earthly living beings such as birds, fish, flowers, trees and finally humans were created by the Primordial One and Naberius.

Saurians are from Ancient Dragons that Devolved not Evolved, And even so, Their bloodline are never changed.
 
Voidnether said:
Yeah, according to the legends statement cannot be taken as a reliable source unless there's a third party supporting the statement
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So you basically saying the Author which is the dev are lying about that? okay..

Just because theres a words "According to Legend" The rest of it are not true, wow.

Like i don't even understand why is that even unreliable, like how? can you just explain to me, all saurians descriptions are talking about their ancestors like how tf is that even unreliable?
 
Sahlwrld said:
So you basically saying the Author which is the dev are lying about that? okay..

Just because theres a words "According to Legend" The rest of it are not true, wow.

Like i don't even understand why is that even unreliable, like how? can you just explain to me, all saurians descriptions are talking about their ancestors like how tf is that even unreliable?
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"Third party supporting the statement" It should be obvious by this sentence that it's only reliable if there was someone experiencing/witnessing it. The Enigmata falsifying history were written by the Author, so are they lying with Elation too? It doesn't take someone that smart to comprehend which one is which and which one is not. Especially when 99% of Genshin Impact's backstory are those from and by the legends, Heavenly Principles can always and will always have the authority to simply falsify those history. This is blatant.
 
Tepetlisaurus:
according to legend, the ancestor of all Tepetlisaurs was a massive drake as large as a mountain, with an exceptionally long lifespan. When it slept, mountains would form along its back, and when it woke, it would shake off the dirt and rocks, leaving behind gems and jade shining amongst its scales. The huge, drill-shaped objects in the Children of Echoes are said to be the remains of that great drake's large drill-horn.
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Koholasaurus
According to legend, more ancient dragons were even more able to adapt to their environments, and when the largest dragon in the ocean of the age floated on the surface, it could even be mistaken for an island. It is said that today's Koholasaurus are the descendants of that great sea dragon, and in their broad backs the colossal forms of those ancient sea beasts may yet be glimpsed.
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Yumkasaurus:
According to legend, the original Yumkasaurs were not at all like today, but much smaller, so small that they were difficult even to see. They could roam freely with the wind, cling to the bodies of the massive dragons, or gather in groups to move about like clouds. However, in order to maintain their form after their abilities degenerated, they had no choice but to assume their current shape.
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Qucusaurus:
It is said that the ancestors of the Qucusaurs were the closest in form to the mighty winged dragons, and that they could soar through the sky like clouds. According to the storytellers, when the greatest of such dragons spread its wings, the entire sky would be blotted out. Of course, the Qucusaurs we see today no longer possess such forms, but the claws they hide within their downy feather coats remain as sharp as ever.
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Iktomisaurus:
According to legend, their ancestors did not have a physical form, and instead could drift like spirits between reality and the spiritual realm, manifesting themselves through the darkness of night. Some also say that the first Iktomisaur to emerge from the Night Kingdom was not actually a true Saurian, but rather a unique race distinct from ordinary Saurians.
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Sahlwrld said:
Tepetlisaurus:

Koholasaurus

Yumkasaurus:

Qucusaurus:

Iktomisaurus:
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Third party supporting the statement would simply mean that it has to come NOT from their race, you know that one event where there's a sick Saurian? Yeah, if it's not validated by the tribes, et cetera. This is just impossible tbh
 
Voidnether said:
"Third party supporting the statement" It should be obvious by this sentence that it's only reliable if there was someone experiencing/witnessing it.
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How is that even necessary? This is legends/history are based on the truth of the ancient dragons that lives in the past.
This is literally a blantant history of the ancient dragons of what they are
Voidnether said:
Especially when 99% of Genshin Impact's backstory are those from and by the legends, Heavenly Principles can always and will always have the authority to simply falsify those history. This is blatant.
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No, so far theres no evidence that The Heavenly Principles have falsify the history of Teyvat nor/especially the Ancient Dragons history.

Like they're not even hiding the history of how Teyvat was created nor the secret about the primordial one
 
Voidnether said:
Third party supporting the statement would simply mean that it has to come NOT from their race, you know that one event where there's a sick Saurian? Yeah, if it's not validated by the tribes, et cetera. This is just impossible tbh
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Bruh.. Do you even read that tepetlisaurus part? Their giant thing that spinning in the children of echoes is part of the tepetlisaurus' ancestor.
 
The legend tells of something that actually happened, wasn't all of that already discussed in the Archon Quest? can also watch the Nod-Krai trailer, because in the era before the arrival of Phanes, the creature was only a willpower flowed freely.

It is also explained in the Bamboo Forest book that legends are past history that has been forgotten by humans because it's been too long.
This was a story that the village elders had never told them before. Perhaps it was a legend that even the eldest of elders had never heard before. Such stories were much more grand than those about foxes taking brides and monsters ensnaring people, but less riveting than the tales of the Lord of Geo driving away evil spirits. The woman's tales were almost like a dream of the imagination.

"These are stories that have never been told, legends that have already been long forgotten by people."
The woman garbed in white gently stroked the lad's hair and lowered her eyelids. The golden color of her eyes grew a bit darker.
"Before the ancient immortals established the universe, there were gods that wandered across the lands. It was at this time that many of the adepti came into being. But what about before then?
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The 13 Sovereign Rulers are apparently the most advanced Secret Source Technology and the descendants of the Pyro Dragon Sovereign, yet they're also not bound by Constellations.

K'uhul Ajaw Type 4 Acausality is real 😂
 
Sahlwrld said:
The 13 Sovereign Rulers are apparently the most advanced Secret Source Technology and the descendants of the Pyro Dragon Sovereign, yet they're also not bound by Constellations.

K'uhul Ajaw Type 4 Acausality is real 😂
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their pride not allowing them to be bound by constellation does not mean they were not bound by constellations, it just means it was against their pride
 
OmniScalator said:
their pride not allowing them to be bound by constellation does not mean they were not bound by constellations, it just means it was against their pride
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How? Its already said because of their pride they were not bound by the constellations.
 
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