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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

Voidnether said:
You didn't even talk about Traveler defeating the all-devouring narwhal in the Traveler vs Trailblazer video smh!!
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Fraudveler if he fought the Narwhal without Neuvi's protection
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The_Tetromino_King said:
Yet Vanessa saw hooded males as gods of celestia so your statement isn´t even correct.
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  • Higher Dimensional lvl could mean "Huge gap"
  • Ronova's origins has nothing to do where she resides or if her powers are higher dimensional
  • Ronova's power are beyond this world because she is a Shade of Phanes, which is an Descender
  • There this thing known as "retconned" in the manga when Vannessa ask about celestia, Venti things of 4 man, even do we know rn they are all females, so most of the manga is "Semi-Canon" at best
Voidnether said:
To be honest, if that 1-C CRT actually passed. It would be something that's exclusive to the Heavenly Principles (Phanes), I'm sure there's a way to make it that Phanes had like +1 dimensional jump over Istaroth who's 5-D
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Remind u Nibelung was able to hurt Phanes and yet lost to Shades/Phanes combined, so how did the shades hurt a "higher dimensional being" (He aint, he would cap at star lvl at best)?
Giannysmag said:
Oh hell nah, we are not putting Tier 1 Genshin on MY wiki
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This is something I wouldn't even do
 
Puppet43 said:
  • Higher Dimensional lvl could mean "Huge gap"
  • Ronova's origins has nothing to do where she resides or if her powers are higher dimensional
  • Ronova's power are beyond this world because she is a Shade of Phanes, which is an Descender
  • There this thing known as "retconned" in the manga when Vannessa ask about celestia, Venti things of 4 man, even do we know rn they are all females, so most of the manga is "Semi-Canon" at best

Remind u Nibelung was able to hurt Phanes and yet lost to Shades/Phanes combined, so how did the shades hurt a "higher dimensional being" (He aint, he would cap at star lvl at best)?

This is something I wouldn't even do
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That's literally the antifeat for Phanes's HDE lol
 
Furina003 said:
yes, we will do it later, now I will wait for nod-krai, maybe in the near future we will make a 5d-6d crt for shades
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I mean you could try going for 6-D with Heavenly Principles (Phanes) first, there's really nothing harming it when it's the strongest being in the verse + No one really scales to it anyway
 
Voidnether said:
I mean you could try going for 6-D with Heavenly Principles (Phanes) first, there's really nothing harming it when it's the strongest being in the verse + No one really scales to it anyway
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your suggestion is good, maybe i will start with shades and surtalogi, because when they get it then phanes will also get it, as i remember kukulan once said that only abyss energy can hurt phanes, and in the description of the item dropped by Iniquitous Baptist, there are people who see the edge of the universe and they see the shadows of a creature that has a shape and color that is more real than humans, i think this is quite interesting, because the shadows of the creature are already more real than humans who are 3d creatures. but i will wait for nod-krai first, maybe phanes will be discussed in nod-krai
 
Furina003 said:
your suggestion is good, maybe i will start with shades and surtalogi, because when they get it then phanes will also get it, as i remember kukulan once said that only abyss energy can hurt phanes, and in the description of the item dropped by Iniquitous Baptist, there are people who see the edge of the universe and they see the shadows of a creature that has a shape and color that is more real than humans, i think this is quite interesting, because the shadows of the creature are already more real than humans who are 3d creatures. but i will wait for nod-krai first, maybe phanes will be discussed in nod-krai
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Only the Forbidden Knowledge part of the Abyss, not the entirety of it. This is kinda the reason why Phanes wouldn't even get any HDE at all even if he's supposedly "1-C" in tier, Shades and Surtalogi are just fodders like what could even be scaled off them? Surtalogi one though, I have to say it's thousands of times worse than whatever the Shades have rn

I mean, wouldn't it be better to just compile all of the Shades into one through Heavenly Principles anyway?

Shades are projections of Heavenly Principles to govern over Teyvat (specifically) and not the whole "Universe" that Sahl was talking about since it's exclusive to Heavenly Principles only instead of the Shades. That's why it was shown to be limited in Teyvat only, like even if you say "oh but aren't they implied to be higher dimensional?" I mean if that Istaroth stuff gets accepted, it's already 5-D so like what? (And it's still technically within Teyvat, even if Plane of Euthymia is supposedly an intedimensional/higher-dimensional realm like whatever the Shades were residing in the trailer). There's no point in it tbh

And Surtalogi my god, he doesn't even face off the Shades directly like what makes bro think he's the strongest in the universe
 
Voidnether said:
Only the Forbidden Knowledge part of the Abyss, not the entirety of it. This is kinda the reason why Phanes wouldn't even get any HDE at all even if he's supposedly "1-C" in tier, Shades and Surtalogi are just fodders like what could even be scaled off them? Surtalogi one though, I have to say it's thousands of times worse than whatever the Shades have rn

I mean, wouldn't it be better to just compile all of the Shades into one through Heavenly Principles anyway?
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I think that Phanes still gets HDE, because normal humans will not be able to interact with him, he can be injured by the abyss, it will not be an antifeat, instead this will show the specialness of the abyss energy itself.
 
Furina003 said:
I think that Phanes still gets HDE, because normal humans will not be able to interact with him, he can be injured by the abyss, it will not be an antifeat, instead this will show the specialness of the abyss energy itself.
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That's like saying Focalors gets HDE cause no normal humans were capable of interacting with her
 
Voidnether said:
Shades are projections of Heavenly Principles to govern over Teyvat (specifically) and not the whole "Universe" that Sahl was talking about since it's exclusive to Heavenly Principles only instead of the Shades. That's why it was shown to be limited in Teyvat only, like even if you say "oh but aren't they implied to be higher dimensional?" I mean if that Istaroth stuff gets accepted, it's already 5-D so like what? (And it's still technically within Teyvat, even if Plane of Euthymia is supposedly an intedimensional/higher-dimensional realm like whatever the Shades were residing in the trailer). There's no point in it tbh
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I don't even know why you think those quotes stating that the laws and rules created by the Heavenly Principles that governs universally is not true and just in Teyvat, dare i say again, that their rules and laws was never stated only Teyvat and just because we are focusing in Teyvat doesn't mean its only in Teyvat. After all, all of this is "Teyvat Chapter" Which is suggesting there could be new chapter after Teyvat is done.

And Actually, there was a rumour that Genshin is getting another whole like series, just like Honkai Impact having another series called Honkai Star Rail.

when the Shades are meeting, They're on different realm, beyond the firmament/false sky and its beyond the universe as you literally can see when the scene is zooming to Pierro. Rhinedottir said Phanes is still sleeping and we can't even see him in there, as if Phanes is like sleeping on a higher plane of existence than that meeting place of the shades.

Pierro case, i dont even think he really gazing them directly and that he knows what he see when he look into the sky, his gaze is just coincedentally looking towards the shades.

The Shades are literally concepts itself, there was no time, life and death before Phanes pulled up and after he came he seperate itself which become a concepts "abides no reason".
 
Istaroth taking key of traveler from present to past 500 years and 3 keys existing simultaneously, do you guys think this is enough proof of genshin multiverse?
 
Voidnether said:
Solar Chariot, though Sun there is like weird cause I do remember Guizhong or whoever it is created like a pocket dimension with the sun in it lmao
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Like how Xiuhcoatl created 3 realms within the volcano with suns in each of those realm with just a single flap of his wings and somehow people dont want to scale that to his AP 🤷‍♂️
 
Sahlwrld said:
Like how Xiuhcoatl created 3 realms within the volcano with suns in each of those realm with just a single flap of his wings and somehow people dont want to scale that to his AP 🤷‍♂️
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I mean it's a creation feat, you don't expect it to scale to others but yeah if that guy, or Guizhong/Alice gets a profile, it'll be tier 4 anyway
 
Voidnether said:
It's just that both of those concepts didn't exist before the shades lol
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Thats why the four shades are the concepts itself.

the star system that Nibelung created literally was so special that even doesn't have the concepts of space, time, life and death on it.

As it stated
Fear and grief must be torn down, and so the barrier between life and death must be removed.
Remove the sun, the moons, and weight, for there should be no barriers between time and space.
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