Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[Puppet43]

By the way Sahl, why you keep saying Trilune arent Shade lvl
Yet your Bina blog u clearly say they superior to Sovereings? Same dudes that could go for a extreme fight over 40 years against said shades
Thats kinda inconsistent.
Unless u actually think what i mean by Shade lvl is that they could neg diff the shade

 

[Mizuki67]

Dottore combat ability alone makes him rank 2, this was stated back even when sumeru came out
We had no idea who he fought but we know his combat prowess alone make him 2nd only to Capitano

If he were to face Raiden and Zhongli alone without preparation he is cooked anyways

The marrows only amp his power on a small scale yet a group made of like 8 at least Archons tiers (Traveler, Ineffa, Flins, Varka, Nefer, Durin, Pulonia, Nicole) and 3 Deities tiers (Wanderer, Arlecchino, Albedo) couldnt do a thing to what previously was At best Archon lvl harbinger
Small jump u say?

no they are not that is some crazy level of assumption

 

[AsterReal]

Even though the two Moon Marrows (Eternal and Iridescent) are the remnants of two lunar goddesses stripped of their authority and power, and the third is entirely artificial, Dottore remains a threat to Teyvat and still possessed the authority of the Three Moons, so it was not a “minor upgrade.”

 

[Mizuki67]

Even though the two Moon Marrows (Eternal and Iridescent) are the remnants of two lunar goddesses stripped of their authority and power, and the third is entirely artificial, Dottore remains a threat to Teyvat and still possessed the authority of the Three Moons, so it was not a “minor upgrade.”

Can you prove how he is not in the process of becoming a threat then ? We have seen the iridiescent moon reject him meaning he is still trying to overcome its resistance

I kinda doubt that he is a full blown threat yet

 

[AsterReal]

Can you prove that he is not in the process of becoming a threat then ?

When Columbina fled to the Moon’s Reflection and took the power of the Frost Moon with her, he was a potential threat. When she created the Frost Moon artificial marrow, she regained the Trilune power and became a threat once again. She stated that she planned to remake the world using the Trilune power.

 

[AsterReal]

By the way... how is it that Aria and Sonnet's Moon Marrows still have power even though they were human just before they died?

 

[MSahla]

I would scale him to Phanes lvl

Just because of "It can cleanse the abyss better than Phanes" lmao, what a funny reason. If the way of Little One's cleaning the abyss by nuking the entire planet, then Phanes should be able to do that, but you know they never have any intend to do that.

And funny how the Little Can do that not by himself but Huitzilopochtli, which is a device that needs a lot of preparation.

I mean, ur the one saying "Shade lvl =ikm Trascending fate" yet characters at relative lvls havent show that

Bruhh...
If you really think Moon Goddess are equal "in status" as the Shades, then they will have the same atatus and state of being as the Shades, which you cannot prove they are because can't do that.

Translating...
"I don't have any counter arguments, please Puppet-kun spare my life"

Funny how you ALWAYS cutting my words.

So tell me, what other gods are between Shades and Moon Goddess on power hierchy
Im sure u have evidence, right?

The way that the statements from the devs alone is so vague because they only said "truly reach the level of a god", which in no way DIRECTLY referring to the Shades whatsoever, and you're the one who forcing it to be so.

Puppet.. You need to question your entire terms of powerscaling.

Im not lying, ur the one blind by ignorance

Yes you are, you haven't proven a single evidence whatsoever. Even if you are, none of them are true and i have debunked them, such as that Devs statement, and your claim "Moon Goddess = Shades level". The former confirmed to be a Headcanon by yourself, while the latter you can't answer my question regarding the Shades transcending stuff.

Im not "non.sequitir" im just pointing out ur own auto conclusion

Buddy, as if you're not auto-conclusion either, lmao.

There litterally no evidence of that, because we cant see how the actual fight went
We can just guess base on cutscenes

Bruhhh.. That is the same situation as when Flins and Lauma got separated from Nefer and Traveler when they fight against 10% Rerir, where you can use 2 characters (i.e Nefer and Traveler) to representing that both of them fighting against Rerir.

Same case as Dottore's, you can see it when Dottore slowly BFR-ed each of them, and your characters from the party is gone one by one. The fact that they can keep up with him for a while and not getting one-shotted.

By the way Sahl, why you keep saying Trilune arent Shade lvl
Yet your Bina blog u clearly say they superior to Sovereings? Same dudes that could go for a extreme fight over 40 years against said shades
Thats kinda inconsistent.
Unless u actually think what i mean by Shade lvl is that they could neg diff the shade

Funny how the Sovereigns are DOWNSCALE from the Shades, meaning if Columbina are scale to the Sovereigns, she too is still below the Shades.

I could still agree with Columbina scale to the Sovereigns, but not the Shades, as there are no reasons to scale her to the Shades whatsoever. Many evidence in the game that proves otherwise.

 

[Natsuki012]

LMAO Bro Traveller is literally the same guy who also struggle against an army of clockwork meka and sumeru guards but he/she could still scale to archon level

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[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

LMAO Bro Traveller is literally the same guy who also struggle against an army of clockwork meka

I swear there’s gotta be some memetic virus around the Traveler because what are you talking about?

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

i have arguments to put it above Post Bina Amp Traveler

lets hear themm

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

"Reason dictates that this nation be destroyed. I shall record the history of its future here in its past."

 

[MSahla]

 

[MSahla]

Me who have Zibai and Skirk

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I iust realised I haven’t done the theatre this cycle. Welp gotta go fast

 

[MSahla]

Genshin Anime will be released at the end of this year.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

there sum sus rerir leaks... prolly a joke

 

[MSahla]

there sum sus rerir leaks... prolly a joke

Don't trust anybody in the early days of April

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Don't trust anybody in the early days of April

yeah the thing is the leaaks was received 31st but timezones exists too </3

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

fukkkk

 

[Mizuki67]

fukkkk

April fools bro

 

[Mizuki67]

I iust realised I haven’t done the theatre this cycle. Welp gotta go fast

Never touched it in the first place. It is really annoying i dont get to choose the team i want.

 

[MSahla]

Happy Birthday @TWILIGHT-OP

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

******* geo again. It is the most useless reactions when it comes to reactions. I do not even have zibai for lunar crystalise team.

 

[Mizuki67]

******* geo again. It is the most useless reactions when it comes to reactions. I do not even have zibai for lunar crystalise team.

Watch how people will forget about lunar characters patches later. They will make snezhnaya character must pull. Abyss will be lock behind the current meta

 

[MSahla]

Sonnet is real

 

[MSahla]

Yeah like.. What happened?
Especially Istaroth who knows every moments (past, present, and future)..

 

[Puppet43]

Back from fighting some maniac

 

[Puppet43]

lets hear themm

Baku = Durin > Dvalin = Dvalin in altern universe > Post Bina Traveler

If he were to face Raiden and Zhongli alone without preparation he is cooked anyways

Yeah, because 2nd Rank isnt archon lvl, just Capitano has showcase that lvl
Think like this
Strong Archons (Zhongli, Ei, Mavu) >= Capi > Dottore

Just because of "It can cleanse the abyss better than Phanes" lmao, what a funny reason. If the way of Little One's cleaning the abyss by nuking the entire planet, then Phanes should be able to do that, but you know they never have any intend to do that.

Didn't just natlan become pholgiston? and anyways its not just nuking the planet but also the cleansing is so powerfull that the Abyss posses no threaths at all

And funny how the Little Can do that not by himself but Huitzilopochtli, which is a device that needs a lot of preparation.

Yeah, thats why i have AU key instead of scaling that to base Adult

If you really think Moon Goddess are equal "in status" as the Shades, then they will have the same atatus and state of being as the Shades

I never said status, nor the scan did say it.
It said power and i said power

Funny how the Sovereigns are DOWNSCALE from the Shades, meaning if Columbina are scale to the Sovereigns, she too is still below the Shades.
I could still agree with Columbina scale to the Sovereigns, but not the Shades, as there are no reasons to scale her to the Shades whatsoever. Many evidence in the game that proves otherwise.

Sahl u know when i reffear to tier i dont mean "they can win fight against X" but their same A.P. tier? currently the only shades i think Dottore/Bina could win are Naberius (She is kinda featless low key) and Asmoday (This would change most likely in 6.5)
When i said "Dottore is stated to be Shade lvl" im not telling u "He could no diff all shades" im just saying "He should scale to around same lvl"

vague because they only said "truly reach the level of a god", which in no way DIRECTLY referring to the Shades whatsoever, and you're the one who forcing it to be so.

U didnt answe my question, are there other god group between?

Nefer and Traveler when they fight against 10% Rerir, where you can use 2 characters (i.e Nefer and Traveler) to representing that both of them fighting against Rerir.

Wanna know the difference? That Varka states over and over that Traveler and Nefer would do the heavy work and be in the front guard try to buy Durin and Bina some time so she gets amped
Btw Rerir is also known as the guy who depends on how much is his intent to kill, he could had kill Jahoda, Lauma, Paimon, Varka or Ineffa a lot of times, yet he doesnt give them much interest

The fact that they can keep up with him for a while and not getting one-shotted.

Or u know, the fact that Dottore wanted to be alone with Traveler and asked him nicely "Join me and i would free ur friends" (Bro needed those Descender hips)

 

[Mizuki67]

Sonnet is real

I am just gonna guess this is project blue beam. The drones are projecting something in the sky. NASA has that kind of technology

 

[AsterReal]

Baku = Durin > Dvalin = Dvalin in altern universe > Post Bina Traveler

Wasn't the Columbina buff for traveler temporary?

 

[MSahla]

Didn't just natlan become pholgiston? and anyways its not just nuking the planet but also the cleansing is so powerfull that the Abyss posses no threaths at all

Duh? Cause wtf would the abyss do the literal pool of Liquid Phlogiston on a country level size? There are no living creatures there except Phlogiston Lifeforms.

I never said status, nor the scan did say it.
It said power and i said power

If they can't reach that status and state of being, then they can neither reach that level of power.

Sahl u know when i reffear to tier i dont mean "they can win fight against X" but their same A.P. tier? currently the only shades i think Dottore/Bina could win are Naberius (She is kinda featless low key) and Asmoday (This would change most likely in 6.5)

Naberius and Asmoday are equal to the other shades like Ronova and Istaroth, cause they're basically from one source (i.e Primordial One)

So just because they don't have that much feats, doesn't mean you have to believe Dottore/Bina could defeat them. Hell, neither Bina and Dottore could reach them cause they resides on a higher reality.

When i said "Dottore is stated to be Shade lvl" im not telling u "He could no diff all shades" im just saying "He should scale to around same lvl"

Not even close. I could still agree with you if they are > Sovereigns.

U didnt answe my question, are there other god group between?

??
What are u even talking.

Wanna know the difference? That Varka states over and over that Traveler and Nefer would do the heavy work and be in the front guard try to buy Durin and Bina some time so she gets amped

Wtf is that gotta do with the things you talk about them in or not in cutscene?

Btw Rerir is also known as the guy who depends on how much is his intent to kill, he could had kill Jahoda, Lauma, Paimon, Varka or Ineffa a lot of times, yet he doesnt give them much interest

Duh? He could also kill Nefer in an instant, but the Plot didn't let him so.

Or u know, the fact that Dottore wanted to be alone with Traveler and asked him nicely "Join me and i would free ur friends" (Bro needed those Descender hips)

What's the relation?

 

[MSahla]

This is cute

 

[Puppet43]

Wasn't the Columbina buff for traveler temporary?

I mean the Bina quitting some of our seals put by Asmoday

This is cute

Linnea is straight makes parallels with Autistic people, I absolutely love how she portrays things that (unfortunately) I had to go through.

There are no living creatures there except Phlogiston Lifeforms.

With the sole exception of Traveler

If they can't reach that status and state of being, then they can neither reach that level of power.
So just because they don't have that much feats, doesn't mean you have to believe Dottore/Bina could defeat them. Hell, neither Bina and Dottore could reach them cause they resides on a higher reality.
Not even close. I could still agree with you if they are > Sovereigns.

Sovereings also have to be "higher reality" if they could clash with shades this is just a simple rule of 3, otherwise they would had got oneshotted btw
So far if u wanna make Shades 4D, u would have to do the same with Sovereings, Sinners and Trilunes

He could also kill Nefer in an instant, but the Plot didn't let him so.

She tanked a explosion almost to the face btw

What's the relation?

Dottore wasnt gonna kill them, he just wanted to have them cautives

 

[Puppet43]

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

With this, ig i won't be able to implement the new template I was working on for genshin

Colorful Header Template

I can remove the custom Genshin template I made if we decide to go with the VSBW blue theme. That said, I still like the idea of letting verse pages have some creative freedom, as long as members are willing to maintain them and they stick to the standard guidelines.

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[MSahla]

With this, ig i won't be able to implement the new template I was working on for genshin

Colorful Header Template

I can remove the custom Genshin template I made if we decide to go with the VSBW blue theme. That said, I still like the idea of letting verse pages have some creative freedom, as long as members are willing to maintain them and they stick to the standard guidelines.

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That's unfortunate.

 

[AsterReal]

 

[AsterReal]

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Happy Birthday @TWILIGHT-OP

Lmao i didn't see this as blue name can't ping, so missed, anyways Thanks

 

[MSahla]

With this, ig i won't be able to implement the new template I was working on for genshin

Colorful Header Template

I can remove the custom Genshin template I made if we decide to go with the VSBW blue theme. That said, I still like the idea of letting verse pages have some creative freedom, as long as members are willing to maintain them and they stick to the standard guidelines.

vsbattles.com

Tbh with you, I personally like how Honkai Star Rail's looks like. It's simple but neat. But i guess they have some colors too.