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This is going to be the most controversal upgrade in my life for now (god help me)
Hoyoverse games have been eating too good (Hi3 is 1-B and hsr is 4-A and 1-B with aeons)
But im going to feed the middle child and this middle child is known as Genshin Impact
INTRODUCTION
This entire upgrade is based of the currently accepted/evaluated calc about the all devouring narwhal making a BLACK HOLE during the fight
vsbattles.fandom.com
This entire calc got accepted due to Blackhole having:
For example:
ISSUES
First and foremost:How will this scale to the game?
Simply:this fight is between the Traveler,whom already has fought the god tiers and even tho they dont scale directly towards them,he wont scale directly to the narwhal either,as it is said by neuvilette that he shared his powers with the traveler as well.
Tartaglia: He only battled the whale with the foul legacy,so only this form will have the scaling to the whale,but even he didnt do much except bring some deep cuts and fight him for a very long time.
Neuvilette:He is obviously scaling to the narwhal,and even above it as he ensured the role of "Executioner" to the traveler so with that neuvilette made sure the traveler deals killing blows instead.
Archons:while a bit confusing the prime versions (the ones with 6-C+ rating)will also scale to the narwhal and above him
Top 3 Fatui Harbingers and Arlecchino: The top three of the Harbingers have power that rivals the gods,while Arlecchino violated traveler even while holding back against him.
Focalors and Rukkhadevata lack their profiles,the same way they lack feats,so they will not be affected,
same goes for Tsaritsa (Cryo archon) and Pyro archon (Currently unknown) as we need to wait for their lore and story in their respective quests.
Second:How did tartaglia,traveler,and neuvilette deal with the blackhole?
Well this is simple(i think): Some of the moves in Genshin Impact,have the certain game mechanic in order to be dealt with
for example: Final Calamity, Setsuna Shoumetsu,Aftershocks of the apocalypse.
So did we deal with the blackhole via game mechanic...or?
well the answer is both.
Why?Well in order to destroy blackhole in game you have to:
Use arkhe attack to destroy it which is actually canon within the game and story as all the fontaine characters get their specific arkhe (pneuma,ousia)
and you can attack blackhole several times fast enough in order to break it,and it would make sense since Tartaglia does not have arkhe since he is Snezhnayan and not Fontanian,while Traveler and Neuvilette have the arkhe,hence they can destroy blackhole. (albeit this argument is kinda weak,it is the only way of dealing with blackhole shown)
Third:What about inazuma traveler?Inazuma traveler only ever was able to fight Ei to the equal ground and beat her is with 99 vission buff,therefore he will only scale to god tiers in that key,every other key after Sumeru chapter will scale to Andrius where the rest of low god tiers scale (Scaramouche,Arlecchino,non prime archons..etc).
if he ever gets a feat of fighting god tiers without help or buff from others he will get the upgrade accordingly.
CONCLUSION
I will list several options regarding this CRT in order to have the most consistent and fair scale since i dont want to make everyone scale to each other nor do i want to make some chainscaling that will result in contradictions later on:
Notes:
I apologise for grammar errors or any errors regarding the text in this crt,english is not my native language so im bound to make some mistakes here and there
@Giannysmag dont kill me uwu
Votes:
Option 1: @SatellaTheWoE
Option 2: @Giannysmag , @ActuallySpaceMan42 , @Kisaragi_Megumi , @CloverDragon03 , @Harith0cell ,@SatellaTheWoE, @AbaddonTheDisappointment @DarkDragonMedeus
Option 3:
Hoyoverse games have been eating too good (Hi3 is 1-B and hsr is 4-A and 1-B with aeons)
But im going to feed the middle child and this middle child is known as Genshin Impact
INTRODUCTION
This entire upgrade is based of the currently accepted/evaluated calc about the all devouring narwhal making a BLACK HOLE during the fight
Genshin Impact : All-Devouring Narwhal
vsbattles.fandom.com
This entire calc got accepted due to Blackhole having:
- Stated if it's actual weight was far exceed than expected size and implied having realistic suction power by everything will gather around it's heavy object, and give comparison like "just as gold attracts more than iron, or the ground more than in the breeze blowing". Which literally how black hole mass works
- Still in the same scan, stated even light can't escape from the vortex
- Show a tidal force, event horizon, and accretion disc
- It's also stated if it's disc can broke the fabric of universe, which other way to say an accretion disc could destroy or bend spacetime.(this is most likely the way how blackhole bends spacetime so this probably isnt as useful as the others but let it be here)
- Is the blackhole thing canon,does it happen within the fight,how did neuvilette and traveler deal with it?
For example:
- Spatial Manipulation (Retreats into a rift in space while performing The Final Calamity[1]) (this is clearly shown in the fight here)
- she also attacks with attacks like this, and this (both of theese moves happen in the fight on her second story quest,but im using the archon quest one since the narwhal feat also comes from archon quest) Another case is her son Scaramouche via:
- Setsuna Shoumetsu: Summons a gigantic sphere of electro then brings it down with enough energy to one shot the Traveler
(please ignore the mona dodging the attack,shes just her)
ISSUES
First and foremost:How will this scale to the game?
Simply:this fight is between the Traveler,whom already has fought the god tiers and even tho they dont scale directly towards them,he wont scale directly to the narwhal either,as it is said by neuvilette that he shared his powers with the traveler as well.
Tartaglia: He only battled the whale with the foul legacy,so only this form will have the scaling to the whale,but even he didnt do much except bring some deep cuts and fight him for a very long time.
Neuvilette:He is obviously scaling to the narwhal,and even above it as he ensured the role of "Executioner" to the traveler so with that neuvilette made sure the traveler deals killing blows instead.
Archons:while a bit confusing the prime versions (the ones with 6-C+ rating)will also scale to the narwhal and above him
Top 3 Fatui Harbingers and Arlecchino: The top three of the Harbingers have power that rivals the gods,while Arlecchino violated traveler even while holding back against him.
Focalors and Rukkhadevata lack their profiles,the same way they lack feats,so they will not be affected,
same goes for Tsaritsa (Cryo archon) and Pyro archon (Currently unknown) as we need to wait for their lore and story in their respective quests.
Second:How did tartaglia,traveler,and neuvilette deal with the blackhole?
Well this is simple(i think): Some of the moves in Genshin Impact,have the certain game mechanic in order to be dealt with
for example: Final Calamity, Setsuna Shoumetsu,Aftershocks of the apocalypse.
So did we deal with the blackhole via game mechanic...or?
well the answer is both.
Why?Well in order to destroy blackhole in game you have to:
Use arkhe attack to destroy it which is actually canon within the game and story as all the fontaine characters get their specific arkhe (pneuma,ousia)
and you can attack blackhole several times fast enough in order to break it,and it would make sense since Tartaglia does not have arkhe since he is Snezhnayan and not Fontanian,while Traveler and Neuvilette have the arkhe,hence they can destroy blackhole. (albeit this argument is kinda weak,it is the only way of dealing with blackhole shown)
Third:What about inazuma traveler?Inazuma traveler only ever was able to fight Ei to the equal ground and beat her is with 99 vission buff,therefore he will only scale to god tiers in that key,every other key after Sumeru chapter will scale to Andrius where the rest of low god tiers scale (Scaramouche,Arlecchino,non prime archons..etc).
if he ever gets a feat of fighting god tiers without help or buff from others he will get the upgrade accordingly.
CONCLUSION
I will list several options regarding this CRT in order to have the most consistent and fair scale since i dont want to make everyone scale to each other nor do i want to make some chainscaling that will result in contradictions later on:
- 1.The blackhole thing is real,narwhal has 5-A ap,and thus those who scale to Foul Legacy Tartaglia(via foul legacy),Neuvilette,Narwhal will be scaling to 5-A,they will also get their resistances accordingly explained in option 2
- 2(safest option imo).The blackhole thing is real, But because genshin currently has no UES the Whale will have 5-A Ap via Blackhole,characters who fought the Narwhal will have Resistance to Gravity Manipulation/Black Hole creation instead accordingly. and the narwhal aswell since he has another blackhole in his body,and has a entity that can turn into blackhole,and sustain one in his body too,but because blackhole ignore conventional durability as explained here.
- 3.The blackhole thing is outlier,and therefore no one will scale to it (i dont believe in this option,as i already explained why the blackhole feat should work and the statements regarding the blackhole boss drop also makes sense with what the blackhole can do,so flowery language argument or hyperbole is stupid imo.)
Notes:
I apologise for grammar errors or any errors regarding the text in this crt,english is not my native language so im bound to make some mistakes here and there
Votes:
Option 1: @SatellaTheWoE
Option 2: @Giannysmag , @ActuallySpaceMan42 , @Kisaragi_Megumi , @CloverDragon03 , @Harith0cell ,@SatellaTheWoE, @AbaddonTheDisappointment @DarkDragonMedeus
Option 3:
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