Genshin hax removal.

[Furina003]

And is that evidence for what?

Even if Mundana Music and Humana Music were 2 different levels of fate, the gods are also characterized in Humana Music, so they would still be trapped for fate.

god must get aca4 and heavenly principle get aca4 bypass, aca4 = fate manipulation resistance.

So, resistence fate Manipulation should be
sustainable, or replaced by aca4

 

[Dog3352]

Evidence for this

It is not being said that the gods are not stuck to destination, the part of the destination is just to talk about what happened to them after all they did, an example would be "even though it has been able to find the healing of cancer, he was not able to escape his destiny," besides the but, there is a statement literally saying that the gods are part of human music (which means they are trapped their destiny), along with this scan (who says that both humans and gods are stuck to destination).

Ee must be replaced with type 2 information erasure

Information Manipulation 2 already covers this.

Information Manipulation is the power to control, alter, and even destroy information itself.

 

[Dog3352]

god must get aca4 and heavenly principle get aca4 bypass, aca4 = fate manipulation resistance.

So, resistence fate Manipulation should be
sustainable, or replaced by aca4

No, the only destiny that exists is that of Mundana Music, and neither the gods nor the celestial principles have any declaration about being beyond Mundana Music.

 

[Furina003]

No, the only destiny that exists is that of Mundana Music, and neither the gods nor the celestial principles have any declaration about being beyond Mundana Music.

You're not wrong,because mundane music is the pinnacle of the destiny system
, i mean, this all refers to the level of destiny, the last one is the first one, the first one is not the last one. because mundane music is the same as the whole world. sebatos clearly distinguishes 3 classifications of music.
therefore why is phobos still affected by the fate of the sky even though it has become his own fate system

Information Manipulation 2 already covers this.

i mean in here,
we have to change to type 2 manipulation information

 

[Dog3352]

You're not wrong,because mundane music is the pinnacle of the destiny system
, i mean, this all refers to the level of destiny, the last one is the first one, the first one is not the last one. because mundane music is the same as the whole world. sebatos clearly distinguishes 3 classifications of music.
therefore why is phobos still affected by the fate of the sky even though it has become his own fate system

Literally nothing says that human music or instrumental music dictates/imposes a destination.
And no, the bold part does not refer to levels of destination, scan says Mundana Music does not include fate/fortune, while fortune includes Mundana Music, this is because the music that has connection/relationship with fate is called worldly music, but not the other way around.
It is literally said that any song that has been related to the destination is known as Mundana Music ("Any music with specifications similar to Fortuna can be called Musica Mundana"), so there is no way to Humana Music or Instrumental Music are other levels of destination, when the only song related to destination is Mundana.
And the thing of Phobos is not an argument, Phobos itself has become its own destination system, it has not tried to get rid of a smaller destination system or something.

i mean in here,
we have to change to type 2 manipulation information

Well, yes.

 

[Furina003]

Literally nothing says that human music or instrumental music dictates/imposes a destination.
And no, the bold part does not refer to levels of destination, scan says Mundana Music does not include fate/fortune, while fortune includes Mundana Music, this is because the music that has connection/relationship with fate is called worldly music, but not the other way around.
It is literally said that any song that has been related to the destination is known as Mundana Music ("Any music with specifications similar to Fortuna can be called Musica Mundana"), so there is no way to Humana Music or Instrumental Music are other levels of destination, when the only song related to destination is Mundana.
And the thing of Phobos is not an argument, Phobos itself has become its own destination system, it has not tried to get rid of a smaller destination system or something.

Yes, I'll just follow along for now, because this will require a long discussion to prove it and I don't have much time right now, maybe someday I'll make a separate crt for this.

Well, yes.

ok

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

bump.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

bump.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

bump.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

bump.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Agree with the removal of Causality and History EE. Neutral on everything else.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

so it is enough or is more staff vote needed?

 

[Furina003]

I think, we have enough votes to remove causality manipulation and EE History, but keep Info type 2 & aca4

 

[Furina003]

i mean in here,
we have to change to type 2 manipulation information

this is my suggestion

 

[Dog3352]

Agree with the removal of Causality and History EE. Neutral on everything else.

I would like you to read this if you didn't read before you give a final speech:

The scan is talking about a monster known as Setekh Wenut, and both the first scan and the second scan are not LITERALLY talking about time (dimension) itself (past, present and future), the word “time” is being used to refer to before of the world being “reformed”, from the time when dragons dominated the world (old world) to the current world (evidenced by the fact that the statement itself says that the time “before time was created” was the time in which it lived with his progenitors/7 primordial dragons and with the "lord of plants"/Apep, which was the time of the ancient world), the current world being the “beginning of time” and “after the concept of time was created”, and the ancient world being the opposite of this, this is quite obvious since both the world and the Setekh Wenut existed before what is mentioned as the “beginning of time”, this is written in the scan itself.

By the way, I wasn't even going to mention anything, but since no one talked about it, I'm going to talk.

@Reiner04, I would like you to look at this before.



Mundana Music:

Mundana Music is the source music, it defines the elements, the passage of time, etc. The universe itself is operated by worldly music.

Mundana Music and Fortune are two different things, but they have a connection between each other, Mundana Music does not include Fortune, but Fortune includes Mundana Music. So much so that any music related to Fortune/Fate is called "Mundana Music".


Música Instrumental:

Well, instrumental music is apparently only the music that people play, since nothing is talked about about it in all this.

Humana Música:


Human music is the music of mortals, both the music of mortals and that of the gods are classified as human music, the essence of human music is "that of harmonization produced by worldly music reaching the quality of the soul." Each physical entity in the world (obviously including the gods, as they categorize as human music) represents "a single string of a harp," while worldly music represents "all the strings of the harp.", and the problem here? This level has nothing to do with Fate, nothing is said about this song dictate/imposing fate or anything like that, it is just said that it categorizes both the gods and humans, so to say that this song dictates the fate of the human world when this is never said is nothing but fallacy.

Summary:

Mundana music really dictates/imposes fate, just as it is the origin of everything, it is related to the rules of the universe, be it passage of time, constellations, elements, etc.
Humana Musica is the music of the deadly world, it categorizes both gods and humans, this song represents "just a line of a harp," Mundana Music represents "the entire line of a harp." Nothing is said about dictating fate in the human world or anything, the only song that dictates/imposes fate is Mundana Music, scan himself says that "any music linked to fortune (fate) is classified as Mundana Music", which means that only Mundana Music imposes/dictates fate, as human music is not classified as Mundana Music.

So no, there are no 3 levels of Fate, just a single thing dictates/imposes fate, and this is Mundana Musica, and the gods are not beyond it.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

In that case, those can go as well.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Okay will do the changes later on phone now.

 

[Furina003]

just to be sure, what will be lost? it seems the type 2 info is still there, so shouldn't we change EE to IM2?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

just to be sure, what will be lost? it seems the type 2 info is still there, so shouldn't we change EE to IM2?

acausality, casuality, ee, the fate and causality restance will be removed everything posted in op.

edit: Done changes.

 

[Voidnether]

Is this already applied or?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Is this already applied or?

yes

 

[Bsk_lyree]

No imirusul editing only ersed you on a type 1 info level

Sounds valid so agree, irminsul is local data for teyvat because travelers are not affected by it unlike yggdrasil which is multiverse or imaginary tree

For acca4 especially have neuvillete, totally agree

 

[Furina003]

yes

My suggestion is that this CRT be closed because it has been implemented.