Gaunter O'Dimm's dimension creation thing.

[Dzhindzholia]

Gaunter was able to create a dimension with the moon and stars in it, in the game against Geralt.

There he says "My world,my rules".

Is that enough for 4-A?This is not outlier in the slightest because Gaunter is portrayed as a god and superior to everything in the verse.No one scales from him.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Bump.

 

[Luck100]

Maybe

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Bump.

 

[Luck100]

Also fablesphere isn't a dimension or something like that ?

 

[Dzhindzholia]

It is.

 

[Luck100]

So someone else scales with Gaunter.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

The case with fablesphere is different,we don't know how exactlt it was created.But we know that Gaunter's dimension was created instantly.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know anything about this series. Sorry. You can use the Knowledgeable Members List and the supporters/neutral sections of the Witcher (Universe) page to find people to ask to comment here.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

There is no onw in that list.

But we have a feat where Gaunter creates it,is that enough?

 

[Antvasima]

Maybe. I would prefer more staff input, as I do not have the time to verify the feat myself.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

I know no one from the staff who is knowledgable in the verse.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, you can just ask a few of them to comment here if you wish. I am uneasy with making these types of decisions entirely on my own.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Did he create it or just rule over it.

Also that dimension only has a Moon. So if he created it it'd be Moon level.

 

[Vsguy75]

Did he actually create that dimension or just take Geralt to it? He says "my world, my rules" but does that doesn't seem like conformation as lots of characters say that they have power over or control areas when they actually don't like how Superboy Prime said "welcome to my unvierse" without being 3-A and how Ozai stated that he had "all the power in the world" and he isn't High 6-A

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

It has stars too.

 

[Vsguy75]

@ Dark

Would it be 4-B or 4-A if Gaunter did create the area?

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@Matthew Schroeder

He clapped and then Geralt was suddenly in a different place,why would we assume that he only ruled it?He created the dimension including everything inside it,like stars,swords,monsters and other treasures.And his quote may be used as the justification.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

No he just said "My world my rules". Doesn't mean he created it.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

What he did then?

 

[Vsguy75]

@Dzhindzholia

He probably just teleported Geralt to the area

 

[Dzhindzholia]

What if he created it?

 

[Vsguy75]

Its not known if he actually did so we can't assume so

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Why can't we assume that he created it?He clapped,Geralt is suddenely in a different place.Why would he say "My world,my rules" if the dimension isn't his creation?

 

[Czuczian11]

Gaunter could just originate from different plane of existence. However, the whole place had certain theme related to the mystery he wanted Geralt to solve. Given how it ended it wasn't presumably prepraed too good. The mirrors were moving at the end if Geralt choose wrong patch and I do not really see Gaunter manually preparing certain place, placing all the mirrors and planting all the trees and breeding monsters. As for Artorius Vigo fablebook it's illusion.Very powerfull one but still illusion. Preumably placed in another plane of existence rather than created as new pocket dimmension, given that mages need Genies as slaves just to reach Montain Level. Think of it as Keira Metz mini dimmension with jacuzzi and copulationg bunnies, just made by Illusion Specialist Mage (from a family known for the illusions) rather than Mage that is not specialized on illusions. If I remember correctly Stegebor could change is Tower into garden with ilusionary fruits and people (who did not existed really but could be intercacted with (eaten/ touched). However the fact that Artorius could do the whole illusion just for two girls to play, as something like a birthday gift screams that he could easily weaponize his illusions on much greater scale unless it required tons of preparation (given how magic in Witcher works I'd say its possible)

Returning to the Gaunter it's also many times said that he is Evil Incarnate and that he cannot be defeated. Maybe he could be considered a Embodiment of Concept (Evil in his case most likely)

 

[Luck100]

Think of it as Keira Metz mini dimmension with jacuzzi and copulationg bunnies, just made by Illusion Specialist Mage
Maybe Keira's dimension is a cavern and the time concept flows different in fablesphere, because of this I think that Artorius Vigo was one of most skilled and powerful mages/illusionist of the verse.

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But could be a "illusion" (maybe was real) like dettlaff bite and Regenerationn.


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[Czuczian11]

Well the ribbon was not an illusion spell- it was protection spell that teleported owner to fable word whatever able world is. The fact that he created sentient illusions that coud exist even without his consciouness and probably even after his death. I really doubt he just made it in random place- teleporting two ducal princesses (or whatever you would call heirs to the duchess title). Indeed Artorious is much more proficent ilussionist that what Keira or Stegebor shown, he is at least several levels above them in terms of quality of illusion. Problem is that Geralt could be killed by illusions. Is that because when he enters the fable world he becomes technically an illusion that is as real as them or it's something completly different. Given ow Witcher verse works I would never think that Artorious coud create dimmension and thencreate sentient life there, it would be far above anything sans Gaunter in verse and do not forget he was considered a powerfull wizard, but just powerfull, not the most powerfull, and Vilgenfort- strongest human mage (while very strong) was nowhere near that level.

 

[Luck100]

True, maybe i'm wrong about my theory.

 

[Antvasima]

If he didn't definitely create the world in question, and it seems like an outlier, perhaps it should be ignored?

 

[Dzhindzholia]

I am not sure,for me it looks like creation.

4-A for Gaunter is definetly not an outlier,he is a God tier that is absolutely above everything in the verse and was portraid this way.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Gehrman_the_Hunter]

just bringing something completely unrelated to this post but also interesting

Gaunter he stated "Geralt, there are four dimensions -length, width, height... and time. What would you have me fall in love with - width? Come, now tsk tsk, tsk"

Possible High 3-A Gaunter

 

[Antvasima]

Please read our requirements for High 3-A in the Tiering System page:

"4-dimensional power that is shown as completely qualitatively superior to 3-Dimensional beings, but is less than universal in scale. Or that allows them to create large parts of a universal continuum."

If such a high rating would strongly contradict their otherwise established power level we cannot apply it.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

I heared somewhere that Gaunter is the evil itself in the Witcher verse and he can not be killed while it exists but I am not sure and it needs some researchies.

 

[Luck100]

I heared somewhere that Gaunter is the evil itself in the Witcher verse and he can not be killed while it exists but I am not sure and it needs some researchies.

Yes, in "Whatsoever a Man Soweth..." mission

 

[Dzhindzholia]

He can gain abstract existence if that is true.

 

[Luck100]

Yes, he is evil incarnate.

 

[Antvasima]

Since this seems unreliable, perhaps we should close this thread?

 

[Luck100]

I would like to see others opinions but ok.

PS: In hearts of stone, the ghost of "scenes from a marriage" have a pocket dimension in one painting. So it's possible that O'dimm dimension is a pocket dimension.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

A pocket dimenison with stars?Nah.