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I wouldn't underestimate Garou, though I do say Garnet has a good attack potency. But I give this one to Garou for many reasons, heck I say Human Garou stands a good chance. His reaction time makes up for the speed equalization. When Garou led Golden Ball into an allyway, he got caught off guard when GB acted drunk, and his golden ball bullet almost killed him (that shot was comparable to Highly Hypersonic+) and Garou dodged it with a small cut. The examples of Garnet's durability are good, but still, the problem with gems is that they revert back to their Gem forms when taken enough damage. The video I saw of Jasper vs Garnet, Garnet was still significantly damaged (not too much), but the blows I saw were almost nothing compared to what Garou's taken.KGiffoni said:Garnet has the AP advantage. Garou scales to being comparable to ~100 megatons while Garnet damages Jasper, who tanked something that is much more powerful than 317 megatons.
Voting Garnet via superior AP, Durability, limitless stamina, and lots of good skills/techniques.
He didnt tank it, he redirected the bullets (by a large scale) and was able to redirect it enough to save the child in the barn/building thing with the building damaged. And for that, I say is, in SU, when has Garnet used her future vision in combat? Cause if we use that, she can basically know what Garou's moves are, but in the fight w/ Jasper, she still got attacked, unless its something more? Im not too much into SU, so if I sound like a Garou fanboy, I simply just go by what I know.WeeklyBattles said:@Jet Reaction speed gets equalized with speed equalization
The blows Garnet took are several times stronger than the 7-A attacks he scales to
Garnet's durability is several times greater than Garou's so him tanking gattling's bullets really isnt anything impressive
We don't equalize one-shots like that. One-shots in-verse can be incredibly inconsistent- in some verses, you can fight people 48 times stronger than you. In others, someone marginally stronger than you can kick your ass.The Wright Way said:Uh, Garnet stomps people twice as strong as Garou. This is a stomp.
And no, I didnt say that his feats are STRONGER in every way, Im basically saying what he's shown were just more impressive than what I've seen from Garnet. Garou taking poison arrows and still fighting is a key factor in his durability. Poison, literally meaning he's going to die by the second, but what happened? He adapted, soon enough he developed a poison resistance. The fact that Garou can adapt in fighting shows that Garnet isnt just gonna stomp him. While Garnet has millenials of years of experience, by just watching her fight, she seems like a typical brawler, only smarter. Garou's martial arts aids him, that it helps multiply his damage by 2x, and redirecting her attacks 2x harder.WeeklyBattles said:Basically what your entire argument can be summed up as 'contrary to the feats and what the profiles say. garou is stronger in every way' which is factually incorrect
As such, the Fras for your argument are invalid
That feat is definitely impressive, but has any of them been able to survive getting slashed to death? I failed to mention Garou also has a regenerative ability. He survived and regenerated from getting slashed multiple times.The Wright Way said:Also, for reference, this is what Garnet scales to. Keep in mind that this feat was performed the verse equivalent of a storm trooper. These guys are expandable canon fodder.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...9/Steven_Universe_-_Are_you_a_real_REAL_ruby?
lolJayTheJet said:Also holy crap I didnt expect that from posting those images, Im new to talking on forums sorry for anyone who feels like, uncomfortable.
It's fine. Everyone is new at one point.JayTheJet said:Also holy crap I didnt expect that from posting those images, Im new to talking on forums sorry for anyone who feels like, uncomfortable.
Why is she listed as only Mountain+ then? I don't think mountain+ folks can one-shot 250 megatons folksWeeklyBattles said:Garnet in-Canon treats rubies, who scale to 250 megatons, as powerless children who are physically incapable of harming her to the point that she can casually pin one under a single arm and there's nothing they can do to stop her.
Garnet also in canon oneshots Amethyst, who in turn can oneshot rubies. with a casual punch and scales to Jasper who was physically undamaged by amethyst
I dont know how to shrink it, but saying that Garnet can one shot Garou is a stretch. The main point is that just cause you can say Garnet has the AP to hurt Garou, doesnt necessarily mean its a win. And by fight I thought we were going by KO, so if Garou manages to poof her, its TECHNICALLY a win. But his durability feats just scale more than Garnet's. FRA, I said that he tanked hits/survived from beings who were either stronger/ just as strong as Garnet, Overgrown Rover for example. He literally slashed him to the point where he was going to die, Garou admitting something like, "Im still alive..?" That shows how much he can actually tank and even grow in his durability. Durability is a key factor in who wins, and to my demise, I admit I underestimated Garnet in a bit, but Garnet's AP feats are just what Garou takes on. Orochi, for example, scaled to as I said before, Mountain Level+ or Large Island Level+. If Garou can take hits from a being thats LARGE Island Level(+), I dont see how he cant fight against someone who's just Island level. And I keep mentioning it, his adaptation is important, because his feats increase in the fight, durability, strength, and the fact that Garou also predicts what his opponent's next moves are (When he was going to attack King, he saw multiple predictions, similar to Garnet's Future Vision.) and he prepared for whatever move he predicted (Saitama caugth him off guard.)The Wright Way said:1. Shrink those images. To large and they can clutter the thread.
2. Gems regularly regen from proofing into smoke, with only a single rock of them left remaining. Unless you hit the gemstine, cutting them up does nothing.
3. Blatantly wrong. Garou scales below people who Harnet treats like children. He can't adapt if a single punch reduces him to paste.
Because of our contradictory rules regarding tier jumps and oneshotsKGiffoni said:Why is she listed as only Mountain+ then? I don't think mountain+ folks can one-shot 250 megatons folks
In an episode of SU,if gems regenerated too quick, they might regenerate and deform? Like w/ Amethyst, so I dont think its a matter of seconds.WeeklyBattles said:@Jay Gems regenerate in seconds so no, poofing is not an automatic wi
Pearl's did because she wanted her new form to look absolutely perfect.KGiffoni said:What? I thought when poofed gems took hours/days to regenerate?
This episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtM2Rd8UQUcThe Wright Way said:What? No. That episode doesn't exist. The only instance I can think of is when her gem was cracked.