Garou vs Batman

[Robo432343]

Garou

Garou (ガロウ, Garō) is a former disciple of Bang and was considered a prodigy. But one day, he was kicked out from his dojo for going on a rampage once he got bored with everyone. He's one of the strongest characters in the series and plays a major role as the main villain in the Hero Hunt arc...

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Batman (Post-Flashpoint)

Batman is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics. The character was created by artist Bob Kane and writer Bill Fsuinger, and first appeared in Detective Comics #27 (May 1939). Originally named "the Bat-Man", the character is also referred to by such...

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Batman has prep

Both 4-B
SBA otherwise
Speed =

 

[koopa3144]

Which Garou key is being used?

 

[koopa3144]

does garou have passive radiation in 4-B???

yes methinks

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

If we're scaling Batman's 4-B to the Mogo feat (not sure what other 4-B calcs post flashpoint has) then Garou has a 3.20236757556x strength difference and on top of that has his passive radiation which Batman doesn't resist.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

The Hellbat Armor can box with Darkseid, thus is his strongest 4-B key. So I'll assume that is being used

Does OP say otherwise?

 

[Spilxson2]

Garou's beating Batman if the fight ever gets to a point where they need to use hand to hand combat. Does Batman know of Garou's abilities or does he just know how powerful Garou is?

 

[Epiccheev]

Batman creates anti Garou spray in 24 hours.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Garou's beating Batman if the fight ever gets to a point where they need to use hand to hand combat

No he is not

Batman is a master of 127 different styles of martial arts AND MORE that he created by combining them, has fought equally skilled martial artists, and defeated a room of 104 people including metahumans. He also knows every pressure point in the body

 

[Knifeman29]

No he is not

Batman is a master of 127 different styles of martial arts AND MORE that he created by combining them, has fought equally skilled martial artists, and defeated a room of 104 people including metahumans. He also knows every pressure point in the body

Allat to be penguin's son's victim.

 

[Spilxson2]

No he is not

Batman is a master of 127 different styles of martial arts AND MORE that he created by combining them, has fought equally skilled martial artists, and defeated a room of 104 people including metahumans. He also knows every pressure point in the body

Garou knows pressure points too and is a master of instantly copying martial arts moves he's seen. He's literally a meme character where most matchups with him end with "garou adapts gg". He can practically copy every martial art Batman throws at him

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Garou knows pressure points too

For one, he has no feats of knowing every pressure point in the body

For another, Batman is in a metal suit. Tf do you mean pressure points? Those aren't gonna do shit lol

For yet another, Batman has fought against equally skilled opponents and people who can mimic his skill

 

[Spilxson2]

For one, he has no feats of knowing every pressure point in the body

For another, Batman is in a metal suit. Tf do you mean pressure points? Those aren't gonna do shit lol

For yet another, Batman has fought against equally skilled opponents and people who can mimic his skill

Garou doesn't just mimic his opponents' moves. He improves them as well

 

[Spilxson2]

wait a sex
is resistance to heat manip>resistance to radiation??
or are they completely different things

I think they're different

 

[Gasper]

No he is not

Batman is a master of 127 different styles of martial arts AND MORE that he created by combining them, has fought equally skilled martial artists, and defeated a room of 104 people including metahumans. He also knows every pressure point in the body

What the hell are martial arts going to do here again? Lol

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Bats could definitely whip up something to counter radiation with prep.

 

[Robo432343]

Bats could definitely whip up something to counter radiation with prep.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Funnily enough, I have that specific Mjolnir keychain, but now I don't remember where I put it

 

[Tural2004]

Radiation is the least of Batman's worries here.

I don't intend to go through all of things listed in Batman's profile but I am pretty sure he is still low-tier inside his armor. Garou just uses his durability negation.

Besides, as far as I know, most of Batman's technology relies on sci-fi stuff. As long as he doesn't bring something like mythical, Garou will just adapt to the situation.

Voting for Garou

 

[Samael_010]

Radion?

 

[Epiccheev]

Voting for Garou

 

[Spilxson2]

I feel like saying specifically how much time Batman has to prepare would be a huge factor. Could be minutes to hours, or even weeks of preparation. Does he know only about the radiation or just all of Garou's abilities? Does he also know that Garou will mimic all of his martial arts and outskill him?

 

[Spilxson2]

i'll let u guys decide how much prep he should have

garou is NOT outskilling batman

Garou's a meme character, man. Even if Batman's read every book and mastered ever martial art known to man, the moment Garou sees him fight, he'll copy his moves and improve them

 

[Spilxson2]

batman has been dealing stuff worse than that almost all his life

Has he dealt with that stuff using martial arts though?

 

[Spilxson2]

Apart from how much time he's getting to prepare, what exactly does Batman know about Garou? Does he only know about his radiation? Does he know about all of his abilities, how skilled of a fighter he is and how he can copy moves? Does he know exactly how powerful Garou's attack potency is?

The strongest Gamma Ray Burst is 8.8 kiloFoe (Garou's attack potency being at this level is a bit unclear, since we only know that it was compared to a real Gamma Ray Burst, which is at least 1 foe with the strongest being 8.8 kiloFoe, so we don't exactly know how far into 4-B Garou is) while characters who scale to Flash's Infinite Mass Punch are at 1.08 kiloFoe. That'd be around an 8x Attack Potency advantage in Garou's favor

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Batman gets prep

and that's wraps

 

[Greatsage13th]

Hmm

 

[Spilxson2]

If we're scaling Batman's 4-B to the Mogo feat (not sure what other 4-B calcs post flashpoint has) then Garou has a 3.20236757556x strength difference and on top of that has his passive radiation which Batman doesn't resist.

I'm not seeing any 4-B feats under the calculations section for Post-Flashpoint stuff

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

I'm not seeing any 4-B feats under the calculations section for Post-Flashpoint stuff

I think that's just a problem with the main DC page itself. If you go onto Superman's page it links to Orion's page then it links to Mogo's page and the page is on there under the Post-Flashpoint key

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Post-Flashpoint, specifically Rebirth, scales to Post-Crisis

 

[Phoenks]

Batman's page looks like shit.

Anyway Garou copies all of Batman's martial arts and exceeds his AP multiple times over while also already outclassing him in skill (Yes, because Batman has a dog shit page), and just beats him up tbh.

If his suit gets damaged the radiation also starts murking him if it doesn't already.

Garou low difficulty.

 

[Phoenks]

He has no counter to Garou just insta copying him does he? I'm not gonna go through that entire wall of feats to find out if he really is more skilled.

But like even if he is what stops the insta copying?

 

[Robo432343]

batman has been dealing with people copying his shit for god knows how long...

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Yeah I'm pretty sure bats has dealt with this before, I'll try to find an example

 

[Nonynho]

For one, he has no feats of knowing every pressure point in the body

For another, Batman is in a metal suit. Tf do you mean pressure points? Those aren't gonna do shit lol

For yet another, Batman has fought against equally skilled opponents and people who can mimic his skill

Also was argued above that batman knows every Point

garou is NOT outskilling batman

Important to say, yes

But like even if he is what stops the insta copying?

He'd have to instacopy every one of batman's combinations and, as said above, batman fought people as skilled as him (which garou for sure isn't)... and many of them.

 

[Emerald]

What can Batman do against the temperature and radiation of a Gamma Ray Burst?

 

[Epiccheev]

Also was argued above that batman knows every Point

Batman always has a point

 

[koopa3144]

What can Batman do against the temperature and radiation of a Gamma Ray Burst?

The Hellbat resists heat because it was forged in the core of the sun and Bats can block radiation with forcefields.

 

[Emerald]

The Hellbat resists heat because it was forged in the core of the sun

A gamma ray burst is much hotter than the core of the sun. Nuclear Blasts are also hotter as well, about 5x hotter

 

[Robo432343]

if batman dies to a gamma ray burst than a new clone will arrive

 

[Phoenks]

Not really a fan of this match. You basically just have to make a bunch of assumptions to say Batman counters the stuff Garou brings to the table, like his radiation, gamma ray burst, nuclear punch planetary AoE blasts, etc.

On top of him just potentially outgrowing batman by many magnitudes.