Game Sonic Upgrade

[Nibbler3100]

I don't see why we only have Sonic at City Level when he's damaged Planet Level Beings in his Base Form and much higher

Feats:

-Defeats Perfect Chaos, who is powered by 7 Chaos Emeralds and Immeasurable power with just a mere 4 hits as his previous fight with him he needed to lay 6 hits in his super state https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opCIeSTzyrk

-Damages Dark Gaia, a Hyper energy organism God who is Large Planet level and has Unlimited Powerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw970zFXTCY

-Damages Time Eater, a supernatural alien creature who can erase time and space and the fabric of reality as wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgzJv0BbTdU

-Breaks the Wings of Tabuu, a powerful supernatural entity who is the embodiment of subspace (subspace = universe) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoMBMjJ76uc

-Damages a Robot who can perform Spatial Rifts and Zero Gravity Fields https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYT7FcMfOVA (13:48)

 

[The_Everlasting]

We've been through the first two extensively, we cannot scale Sonic to Perfect Chaos or Dark Gaia, as that would mean that he's stronger than his Super Form.

The Time Eater is a massive outlier that goes against his other feats.

Smash Bros. isn't canon to the Sonic series.

The last thing isn't even a feat, it's hax.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Ever beat me to it.

 

[Nibbler3100]

If the only problem is the super form being weaker than that seems like it obviously warrants a super form upgrade as well to something much stronger I mean the 3 super forms did team up to crush solaris divide the yield by 3 and voila. I realize Sonic passed out do to exhaustion fighting dark gaia but he wasn't utilizing the full power of the chaos emeralds it seems to me that the forms actually fluctuate depending upon the amount of chaos power used

 

[Jo-Smooth]

How about Current Base Sonic > Previous Super Sonic? Is that a vaible option? If his Super form in previous games had more trouble against enemies he could now take in base, doesn't that mean he just got stronger? IDK how the VS Battle wiki rates this feat, but what about Base Sonic defeating Ultimate Emerl (who had the power of the 7 Chaos Emeralds, Residual Energy of the Solar System Busting Final Egg Blaster, and complete knowledge of Sonic and all the cast of the games' fighting styles)?

 

[Antvasima]

@The Everlasting Do you wish to write a discussion rule about this?

 

[The_Everlasting]

@Ant

Well, I don't think that's necessary just yet for the first part. Only one person really advocated for the Perfect Chaos/Dark Gaia thing before, albeit very extensively, this is the first time it's been brought up in months to my memory.

The Solaris and Time Eater thing? Yeah, that may be necessary, especially when people may get confused over why Sonic's not scaled in the first place, and it's been brought up several times to my memory.

Perhaps this will suffice?

"Please do not attempt to upgrade Sonic the Hedgehog to Low 2-C or Immeasurable based on his feats of battling the Time Eater or Solaris. These are generally massive oddities with his normal statistics, and thus are seen as significant outliers, as we have repeatedly discussed."

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will add the rule.

 

[Elione-Arisu]

mmh I think that super sonic should(in my opinion) be at the very least solar system level because he damaged solaris and time eater :/ and for base sonic maybe planet level. Because after all the things he did, I really doubt that he is just city level...