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i still think things dont change very much.. gaara still has a MASSIVE aoe advantage and even with future sight, I'm not sure how much that's actually even going to help him.

i think invisibility is sanji's only wincon. But who isn't to say that Gaara just hides in his sand (kind of like he did with Sasuke), until Sanji shows himself?
 
i still think things dont change very much.. gaara still has a MASSIVE aoe advantage and even with future sight, I'm not sure how much that's actually even going to help him.
Now he's not getting touched at all.
i think invisibility is sanji's only wincon. But who isn't to say that Gaara just hides in his sand (kind of like he did with Sasuke), until Sanji shows himself?
Sanji can fight while invisible.
 
Uh... invisibility just gets countered by sand sensing...

Or did people forget Gaara could do that?
Did you read the entire thread before you posted that?
And now that Sanji has instinctive reaction and future sight, he's not getting touched
 
Did you read the entire thread before you posted that?
And now that Sanji has instinctive reaction and future sight, he's not getting touched
You said nothing to debunk the point other than "Gaara can't use it if Sanji stays in the air, since he can't use it on airborne opponents." ; which is flat out wrong. As displayed below.

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That point never made sense to begin with, why would he not be able to use it in the air if he can use literally every other sand technique in the air?

He's not being touched by giant waves of sand spanning an entire battlefield? Miss me; future sight isn't suddenly some kind of giant speed amp which lets him dodge for hundreds of meters.

Gaara still wins.
 
You said nothing to debunk the point other than "Gaara can't use it if Sanji stays in the air, since he can't use it on airborne opponents." ; which is flat out wrong. As displayed below.

https://s31.mkklcdnv6tempv2.com/************/r1/read_naruto_manga_online_free3/vol58_chapter_552/18.jpg

That point never made sense to begin with, why would he not be able to use it in the air if he can use literally every other sand technique in the air?

He's not being touched by giant waves of sand spanning an entire battlefield? Miss me; future sight isn't suddenly some kind of giant speed amp which lets him dodge for hundreds of meters.

Gaara still wins.
And I already conceded on that, read the thread.

Gaara needs prep time to create the hundred meter ranged sand. Miss me.

Instinctive reaction isn't suddenly some kind of giant speed amp which allows him to blitz everyone he's near.

Get mad. He's not hurting him.
 
To top it off, I'm 70% sure there's already a lot of sand in central park and there's definitely a lot in the central park area. Just because of the surrounding playgrounds.
 
To top it off, I'm 70% sure there's already a lot of sand in central park and there's definitely a lot in the central park area. Just because of the surrounding playgrounds.
THE FIELD IS WHOLE CAKE ISLAND WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
 
I assumed SBA... So does WCI not have sand? It doesn't have beaches? It's an island after all.
It is an island of candy buildings.
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No sand at all
 
Hey when you give Sanji homefield advantage, he might just win based on that.

Anyway, I never made a case for Gaara blitzing.
 
Sanji is seriously being slept on here.


Kenbunshoku Haki has allowed users to react to shit whenever they can't track other characters from their eyesight. Doffy was able to use his Kenbunshoku to predict Luffy's attack last second, the latter being able to blitz Doffy from hundreds of meters.


Also don't think Gaara can suspend sand in the air for large amounts of time, which isn't exactly a good idea given that he's dealing with an opponent who can see events happening several seconds before they happen along with speed boosters.


Voting Sanji.
 
gaara fra

(Ah just noticed I already said gaara fra. Can the thread starter tally up the votes?)
 
I am aware that the sand protects Gaara from attacks regardless of his will, but how would it protect him from someone who can increase his attack speed and then increase it again with another techenique? This is like Rock Lee case, when many attacks at consecutive high speeds would be difficult to keep up with even Instinctive Reactions. The difference is that here Sanji can see the future and know where the sand will defend his opponent.

Gaara's advantage in range is not so important, as Sanji has a better flight and can see seconds in the future to anticipate any strike over long distances.

It would be very difficult for Gaara to catch Sanji in his sand due to the flight, not to mention that the guy has enough stamina to stay in the battle for whole days.

By Sanji's fighting skills, a single sequence of his black leg style would be enough to blind Gaara or cause a lot of damage to his face (This is because Sanji's fighting style is focused on hitting fragile parts of the human body, such as his eyes, throat, chin, teeth. Sanji is so skilled at hitting the vital points of the human face that he literally alters the bone and biological structure of the target's face with kicks).

For Precog, Skills and Speed my vote goes to Sanji.
 
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