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Frodo Baggins versus Harry Potter

Frodo knows that using the Ring is extremely dangerous, and it's not like Harry looks that intimidating. If he doesn't know what Harry can do, he prob tries a regular attack and gets one shot.
 
Why are we even doing this one ? Harry knows as much ways to defeat Frodo, as he knows spells. The only thing Frodo can do is cut him with his sword :D He wont use the ring and Harry can make himself invisible as well. This is a stomp
 
Jucaslucas said:
Frodo knows that using the Ring is extremely dangerous, and it's not like Harry looks that intimidating. If he doesn't know what Harry can do, he prob tries a regular attack and gets one shot.
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If he won't use the ring because its dangerous, than Harry won't attack him because he's not attacking him.
 
How much could he theoretically use the Ring for in-character? Even if we use Frodo from just before being fully corrupted by it, he's still only really aware of the invisibility and viewing the spirit world.
 
MasterOfArda said:
Jucaslucas said:
Frodo knows that using the Ring is extremely dangerous, and it's not like Harry looks that intimidating. If he doesn't know what Harry can do, he prob tries a regular attack and gets one shot.
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If he won't use the ring because its dangerous, than Harry won't attack him because he's not attacking him.
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No, this is battle, they have to fight anyway. Thing is, Harry doesn't look intimidating enough for Frodo to decide that using the Ring from Dark Satan from hell is worth the risk. Harry can one shot him with several spells.
 
Harry Potter spells like stupefey don't work on metal, petrificus requires getting up close, levicorpus could work if he tries it first, expelliarmus is useless, and he's never used Incarcerous.
 
My verict:

Possibility 1-Harry uses levicorpus and wins.

Possibility 2-Harry uses any other spell and Frodo thinks"Oh no! Better use the ring" and stomps

Possibility 3-Both are bloodlusted and Frodo stomps with the ring
 
MasterOfArda said:
Harry Potter spells like stupefey don't work on metal, petrificus requires getting up close, levicorpus could work if he tries it first, expelliarmus is useless, and he's never used Incarcerous.
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Petrificus doesn't have to get close iirc. Remember it having a decent range.

Expeliarmus can make people fly across the room. Pretty useful. And Frodo is screwed if he gets disarmed.

He used Incarcerous against the Inferi.

Using the ring isn't an insta win either. Harry has AoE attacks, actually has speed feats and is way more versatile. And he can actually use his invisibility without the fear of turning into a Gollum.

Also, I was reading The Hobbit the other day, and it seems like the Ring doesn't make the sword invisible. The spiders could see the sword while Bilbo had the Ring iirc.
 
When was it shown that petrificus could hit wizards from far away.

Why is Frodo doomed if he gets disarmed.

Incarcerous doesn't srop Frodo from freeing himself with his sword.

Frodo can see invisible people with the one ring, which he would use likely after a single spell.
 
Not far away, but a decently above striking range with a sword.

Because he can't hurt Harry otherwise.

Kinda hard to free yourself when your arms are tied. Regardless, he'll be incapacitated and Harry can end him there.

Forgot he could see invisible people, but I don't see him surviving enough to use it. And also, I went back to The Hobbit, and, yeah, the spiders could see Bilbo's sword while he used the ring. Don't remember if it was retconned in LoTR, but Harry should be able to see the sword.
 
So its not an instant K.O.

He can still use the ring and strangle Harry, or grab his sword while invisible

Frodo has his sword in hand. The spell would rap around him, and then Frodo would push and cut himself free.

Probably
 
Yeah, all things considered, Harry Potter seems to have more chances. Voting Harry mid-diff for the reasons JucasLucas gave.
 
There are far more scenarios where Harry takes this with magic than where Frodo takes it by using the Ring out of desperation. Harry's magic and versatility is out of the wazoo compared to a non-magic hobbit with a strong sword and potential invisibility; if Harry starts the battle knowing Frodo is there, he curses everything around him.
 
Frodo has one means to win. Harry has numerous. Neither is going to go for the kill right out the gate, but in this situation, it's far more likely that Harry will hit Frodo with a spell before the latter can properly realize that the former is a threat.

In short, Harry mid-diff at worst for reasons above.
 
The battle wil be over in one spell. If Harry uses levicorpus its over. He wins. But if he uses 90% of other splells, Frodo uses the ring and wins.
 
MasterOfArda said:
The battle wil be over in one spell. If Harry uses levicorpus its over. He wins. But if he uses 90% of other splells, Frodo uses the ring and wins.
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How can he win ? All the ring does is making him invisible.
 
Do not forget that Frodo is hobbit and Harry is a human wizard (who are implied to be a little bit more durable than muggles) who also know (vaguely) how to use sword. He is by default stronger even without magic, i'm pretty sure that expeliarmus for just removing the Sting would be enough to continue this fight in just physical combat. Surely Frodo may use a Ring, but Harry can become invisible as well without any time limitations and nazguls and corruption and any other drawbacks. Also Harry is slightly faster (at atletic human) with Subsonic reactions- it's basicaly enough to say that ranged fighter with much faster reactions can not let Frodo to even get close to coming in mele range, where he would still be at disadvantage (unless he still has a weapon )
 
Harry Potter resisted Voldemort mind manipulation at almost mele range at the end of Order of Phoenix, well it wasn't that perfect resistance but he isn't weak willed or anything close to that.. Also I doubt mele combat is a thing that would occur in that fight, considering the faster combatant is ranged, has better reactions, and has acces to teleportation and has superior physical statistics given the race
 
I see no way how Frodo could win. All he can is mele combat and invisibility and seeing spirits. Harry can as well fight in mele (vs Basilisk) and can turn invisible and is a mage with tenths of different spells on top of that, is bigger, faster, and smarter, can remove weapons from hands of opponents, teleport and control snakes. He also know's his power comparing to Frodo's vague knowledge about the Ring. Last but not least (if it's befeore his fight vs Voldemort) he is horcux which means that he has to die twice to really die. Also with subsonic reaction he can cast about 2-3 spells before Frodo even can realize that first one is cast.
 
Harry can take the cloak and become invisible as well without any threats to his life nor corruption, also he can cast fire spell in the location where frodo was before he became invisible- with his superior reactions he is surely going to hit him. also sting is visible if frodo wears ring so either he is unarmed or invisible
 
I honestly don't think Frodo stands much of a chance here. This is one of the very few Lotr-HP equivalent fights where HP wins.
 
Just in case I'm the only one who's keeping count, we're at 7-1 in favor of Harry as of three hours ago.

Harry: Jucaslucas, Meosos, Loyalservantofinti, FateAlbane, TheVividen, myself and Czuczian11

Frodo: MasterOfArda
 
Harry is really fond of using his Cloak too, especially in the later parts of the series. And if Harry has any knowledge of Frodo being hostile to him and then going invisible, he will either just do the same or reatreat into a corner.

Frodo's singular gimmick really is not a large help here, considering he is fighting someone with even more experience with Invisibility and way better fighting capabilities. Heck, even summoning a Broom will make Frodo lose nearly instantly.
 
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