Frisk vs. Johnny Test

[Jackythejack]

This could be completely unfair and if it is well I'm sorry lol. Speed is equalized. Johnny has access to all inventions outside of Possession, and nothing that gives him Time, Memory, or mind manipulation. Fight takes place in Snowdin. And, obviously, 8-B forms.

Frisk

Johnny Test

 

[RandomGuy2345]

So uh...

What's Frisk's AP?

 

[Jackythejack]

50 tons compared to Johnny's 59

 

[RandomGuy2345]

50 tons compared to Johnny's 59

Alright. So basically even in terms of AP.

Well, what can Frisk do? Johnny is going to start with his equipment off the bat, so Frisk needs to have some good abilities to counter.

 

[Jackythejack]

Considering that Frisk is a player character it's hard to tell what they would start with

Notable stuff is obviously their SAVE and LOAD if they lose/think they're going to lose. Then there's stuff like the power null, the sleep manip, and the subjective reality as well as the limited invulnerability upon hit.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Then there's stuff like the power null,

How does this work?

the sleep manip, and the subjective reality

Same question as above.

as well as the limited invulnerability upon hit.

Invulnerability is not going to save you from hax. Johnny only engages in H2H combat if he doesn't have his equipment on him, so invulnerability is useless.

 

[Jackythejack]

I might need to call someone else into this as well lol.

I'm not very good at debating undertale. There's a possibility this doesn't work...

I just want to give Johnny some equipment otherwise it's impossible for him to win lol.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Frisk is impossible to kill since if Johnny were to kill them, Frisk would come back through Determination, so it's really down to if Johnny would resort to KO/Incapacitation off the bat.

As for Frisk's tactics, they can dodge low to mid-level danmaku with ease, so Johnny will have a hard time hitting them. They will also try to convince Johnny to surrender peacefully by ACTing.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Johnny can just use his Electro Chromatic Blanket (Invisibility) to disguise himself and do a sneak attack using one of his hax to end the battle.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

To answer Random's questions...

Frisk's power null stems from him staring at a magical object for a certain amount of time, weakening it, and if he keeps doing it, then, the power of that magical object is negated... I.E, it is useless against Johnny.

Frisk's sleep manip stems from them singing a song that was taught to him; the first time a person hears it, they get sleepy. the second time a person hears it, they fall asleep. Might not use it, however. Frisk's subjective reality is only for making items to pop out of existence, and that's about it.

Jacky already answered about Frisk's invulnerability, and you already answered in how it won't be helpful.

Frisk is impossible to kill since if Johnny were to kill them, Frisk would come back through Determination, so it's really down to if Johnny would resort to KO/Incapacitation off the bat.

As for Frisk's tactics, they can dodge low to mid-level danmaku with ease, so Johnny will have a hard time hitting them. They will also try to convince Johnny to surrender peacefully by ACTing.

Adding onto this; if Johnny isn't willing to give up, Frisk can fight back and has the potential to kill. Or not. Frisk being a Player Character makes it a bit hard to decide on what he would actually do here. Even more so than usual.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Going off of what Fanta said, the only things that will be useful here for Frisk is singing, Subjective Reality, and the potential to kill.

Yeah, I don't think Frisk stands much of a chance here.