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Fortissimo Discussion Thread

hm ? I though Prime Odin is what we call 100% Odin ? :v But OWS can only do this because Odin is an immortal being. Not sure if it has any effect on the normal target other than 4-C raw power.

Loki didnt stop this Gungnir, he stopped 50% power Gungnir. 100% power Gungnir was happened after Odin saw Sayuki's Lindrum and lost his temper.

gonna make a match between her and Ren then lol. It's been a while since the last time i saw Ren profile, i wonder if there's anything new that make this a match a stomp or not
 
nothing much doe too much immortality will be fatal

and huh well who knows

the mega issue is ren constnatly ups his speed in EFO and EFF slows enemies passively so there is that issue :V
 
I can see Sayuki getting Galaxy level Dura. I'm guessing there she'll be a stone wall tank with far higher dura than what she can dish out huh?

What would a "100% power Gungnir" be in that case in relation for Sayuki? Galaxy level AP or should it be treated as a powernull that can null attacks far above Sayuki's tier?

Edit: Nevermind, read that bit of OWS. Yeah in that case, it should be limited to attacks coming from immortal beings like Odin if it's not known to work on non immortals. I mean MAYBE there might be some workaround in it but if it's really nulled the attack because of Odin being an immortal being, I guess to play it safe Limited Powernull should do it.

A match with Ren lol. I think as long as Ren gets a cut at Sayuki's neck it should be capable of killing her. IIRC it was stated to be as deadly as Machina's fists and something about being like that of Reinhard's spear...which is weird but I've yet to properly look into his HR.

@Red: Pretty sure EFF does both. It's like a sort of upgrade to EFO where it retains the speed boost (think even activating it in Rea's Route said he got x1000 speed buff) in addition to slowing down his enemies to a near or outright halt.
 
Yeah, but against the immortals, the whole thing will be reversed lol (i mean she will become a glass cannon, in case nobody get it :v )

Since it's 100% of Odin power, we can assume this is Prime Odin's level of strenght. Then Sayuki could be the character that possesses the strongest fire power in the series, of course this is only works against immortals being (Unless Kamiya pull another "Araki forgot" onto us and make Lindrum appears to be weaker than it was in the sequels >.> )

About the Ren vs Sayuki match, i forgot that he can make the opponent slow down. Hmmm... would Alvsior works then ? Like runaway to somwhere infinitely faraway to avoid his EFF, not sure if that's gonna work, but worth a try :V
 
That sounds pretty situational then lol.

IDK it's still something until then.

Oh yeah I think that can work. Ren's EFF Briah range isn't known, think it's pretty smallish since it only like froze up Reinhard's Throne room and those that were present with him (though I think I recall it clashing with Glads in terms of scale but I have to go back and see it). That's one possible strat Sayuki can do and just hit him from a distance.

Now in regards to the games, has there like been any hints of the author working on another Fortissimo series? Been about a good 5-6 years since the last but I assume they aren't or are but haven't annouced it yet.
 
Just rewatched the prolouge and epilouge of Fortissimo. I realize Odin should get the resistance to Absorbtio. Forbes Blutgang is known for it's ability to absorps the victim's existence, power and knowledges. But Odin is completely unaffected by it

And epilogue take place in the new world where everyone is already saved by Loki. So we could make a "Post-Ragnarok" key for every character...or just wait for KF revision to upgrade everyone
 
Qliphoth Bacikal said:
Oh yeah I think that can work. Ren's EFF Briah range isn't known, think it's pretty smallish since it only like froze up Reinhard's Throne room and those that were present with him (though I think I recall it clashing with Glads in terms of scale but I have to go back and see it). That's one possible strat Sayuki can do and just hit him from a distance.

Now in regards to the games, has there like been any hints of the author working on another Fortissimo series? Been about a good 5-6 years since the last but I assume they aren't or are but haven't annouced it yet.
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well, If EFF is passive then Sayuki surely cant bring him down due to she need to approach Ren and land a kick on him. :v

And no, Lacryma is kinda lacking budgets lately from what i hears. They can only make co-op products with other visual novel company ( they made Kandenz with 5pb and Kieta sekai to tsuki to Kanoji with Hiyokosoft) And Kamiya's twitter... doesnt has much update about his work >.>
 
Oh whelp GG ^^;

Really? That sucks. Well as long as they're able to continue with that, it might not be that bad of an idea...tho I wonder if they can still continue if they're really low on budgets.

Ah that;s neato for Odin. Keys can work tho if you still have enough time, making the KF revision to upgrade someone can also work. The former might be the only option since you have at least everyone covered from the first game and post after (but right before Kf).
 
she at least have that much fire power against immortals...but i guess since either roge was not an immortal like odin or akashic records BS it failed (or would? I forgot if she could use it in the final battle)
 
@QB All i can hope for Lacryma right now is that their upcoming VN, Kanotsuku will be a success. Otherwise it's gonna be hard for them to stay in this industry. I really dont want another chuuni company to go down like Light D:

Oh and...false alarm for Odin's resistance to Absorption. i forgot that Forbes Blutgang only absorps the target's existence when it's still has slot to fill :v

@Redgrave. Just checked the fight. It's really Akashic Record Powernull
 
wait kanotsuku? It ain't related to fortissimo right?

Tbf i feel the series is gonna end in a trilogy

And F but roge has a lot of them or smth? And yep its that much BS
 
TISSG7Redgrave said:
wait kanotsuku? It ain't related to fortissimo right?
Tbf i feel the series is gonna end in a trilogy

And F but roge has a lot of them or smth? And yep its that much BS
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No i'm afraid. The author is Matsushita , not Kamiya, so this probally doesnt has any connection with Fortissimo.

But yeah, everyone feel like the series is gonna end in a final game where Reiji's master begin his Subaru project (no idea what that is lol). But if the series continues in someway. I would like to know more about the mythic age Magi or maybe just the normal non-rank S (which is where's the Fortissimo's magi are ranked as) around the world.

ehhh... Roge has what ? :v
 
huh time travel and smth like that

Roge has a lot of stocks or smth? Idk narration stated he burned a ton of ppl or smth during the final fight before reiji gets yeeted
 
Fortissimo time travel...it's obviously fortissimo Grand Order :V

Well :v i could check that out too. But maybe i should save it later until i reach that part ^__^" still on the part Irmfrid vs 6 magi, damn, the guy is such a monster, taking out all 6 magi without much effort. Until Deus ex Fermata show up and save the day
 
Kek.

It would suck if the author didn't get to have their series in a conclusion and be left with such a cliffhanger. If it ends with a trilogy, I'd be satisfied with that. Shinza Bansho technically was a trilogy at first (besides the side stories each VN has...well PL has 1 that's a prequel, DI has several, and I think I read that KKK has some of their as well but yeah) until the idea of Pantheon came about.

Obviously not the same tho but the idea is there in that if a Trilogy of Fortissimo could be done, that's one I'd be settle with knowing it has a proper end. I feel the same with WAB here: If it doesn't get a proper conclusion (or worst, Sakurai stops doing it for whatever reason) I'll be pissed lol.

On-Topic: That shows how powerful Irmfrid is if he can take on 6 magi at the same time lol. If someone like Drac Vlad can take on 6 empowered Heroic Spirits, that shows you that char has.....T R U...P O W A H~
 
...your avi shocked me, QB, for a moment, i though Fab has finally came back to us :v

And yeah, ending Fortissimo with a final sequel would be Lacryma's wisest move right now, seeing how everything until now is only preparation for Shishou's Subaru Project. But i kinda low-key want the series continues with spin-off or something like that. Welp, it's all in Kamiya's desicion, i guess.

huh, never heard that PL and KKK has their own side stories. Sakurai is currently busy with Nasuverse from what i heard (They said she hasnt get over with making mary sue-ish characters lol) but she hasnt giving up on WAB series yet. But serious doe, everyone is clueless about which direction is WAB series heading right now, and maybe it's still a loooooooong time until we actually get a proper ending of the series (i'm all for a final battle where everyone vs Edison lol)

Drac Vlad got stabbed and burned to death by priest Shirou tho :v Irmfrid on the other hand, gone toes-on-toes with Fermata in pure physical strenght combat, stated by the 6 magi that the 2's power completely in a seperate dimension compare to themself. In the end, irmfrid gave up because he and Fermata can stalemate each other for eternity and never reach conclusion of their fight.
 
Yeah sorry for the false hope lol. I was listening to Edison's theme last night and wanted to change Avi from DMC to WAB only to realize Fab still has Edison and I didn't remember this until AFTER I put it kek.

Right. It's either that or go with more spin offs while still keeping the teachers project thing in it or in some kind of shape or form.

Aye they do or so I've heard and looked up a long time ago. That's what I heard too from Lady. Though IDK either if she is or not. The good thing is I've seen Sakurai put a like and retweet of some WAB fanart so it doesn't seem like she's not ignoring it...so that's good.

Kek that he did, tho it's like with Wilhelm in DI: Cuz he became a vamp, he was especially weak to holy sacrements(?). And NOICE. That's great scaling for Irmfrid, and lol of him to give up just cuz neither would be unable to finish their fight lol.
 
We only need to wait and see if Sakurai make any kind of after-story (Like Shining Night for Gahkthun) for Tyrhhia. If she does, then it's totally confirmed that franchise will lives with another sequel, so no worry :3

And not sure if this Fermata is the one that fought Loge. It's give us a feeling that the armor is soulless and has a very sinister air around it (you can see it in the CGs) totally difference from Fermata that fought Loge. if Fermata that fought Irmfrid is turn out just an armor and later empowered by Fermata the higher dimensional being then i suppose the scailing ladder just gone up a higher step then
 
Guess that's a point lol. And it has only been out for a year now so who knows kek. Sakurai also has like three other series she was gonna work on which are Starlight, Ulthar, and some kind of anime but all these are unknown AFAIK.

Ah. Irmfrid might still scale depending on that then. Maybe not as high but definitely up there.
 
its unlikely cuz carmilla summoned fermata fully after we got yeeted by loge. I suspect that's julius tbh but idk
 
@QB Yike, i didnt know that Sakurai has like 3 projects on-going right now O.o hope she doesnt overworks herself.

@Redgrave well, it's likely to be Julius because the armor's weapons. But in the final battle, it's seem like they are seperate weapons seeing how both Fermata and Julius own their own version of them. Welp, i guess i need to read more to find out then
 
It's...complicated and unknown even now. What a Beautiful Starlight seemed like it's going to be another current times entry to WAB and was gonna set in the western part of the US according to some talks from the guys at Animesuki tho I can't say if that's the case or not cuz it's still just a teaser that Sakurai has yet to make any updates on. Same with Mushoku no Ulthar that, and I really think this is getting annoying even for myself, supposedly it'll be worked on or released around late next year but that's ofc assuming my computer is not f'ing with me or Sakurai somehow figured 2020 will be the time to post new WAB content.

That anime project I mentioned, which is called "Meian no Kerunueteru", was gonna be like this thing that takes place in the first century, like WAYS before even the main WAB series of events. You can read it on somewhere like here, and ofc a couple of the concept stuff Sakurai posted on Twitter here that's part of a reboot to said anime project but again these ones were from 2017 and hasn't been brought up since.

It is pretty overworked tho I agree, and that's ofc not counting the fact she's with the Nasu/Type Moon team atm.

That aside, I'm now curious of this: What exactly are the Seventh Cords(?) abilities like? I heard some stuff from Freya via Red on Discord a while back, Faust can cut a freaking above baseline planet level concept slash with just a mere sword skill, and Irmfrid as you said can fight 6 magi's at the same time and even against Fermata to a potential standstill.
 
Seven Chord's powers, from what i have seen so far : mostly just brute force and nearly no hax (Although i remember Yuria has some time manipulating abilities but i havent reach that point yet). They can only fight against the magi's haxes because the Barrier Jacket (which is an equipment that all member possess) can nullifies the special abilities of magical weapons onto the wearer, making the magi has no choice but using the raw energy techniques like Fenris Wolf to fight. And imfrid is the greatest example of the Seven Chord's no hax fighting style, he uses only his strenght to fight, and can tank Ayane's mythic class Dainsleif like its just normal leaf landing on his arm. This kind of fighting style make their fights kinda...boring compares to how the magi creatively come up with the strategy to counter each other's power in the first game
 
So they basically have Anti-Magic equipment strong enough to force those with hax the magi's have to make them fight with raw power stuff like Fenris Wolf...interesting.

Thinking about this, I can also see Irmfrid and Goku fight each other fairly like this lol. Well Goku might win cuz of Kaioken and UI but since he's a really straightforward fighter otherwise, he'd be a fitting char for Irmfrid to face I assume.
 
Goku vs Irmfrid would be interesting. But i havent see Irmfrid fight in fullpower yet, he just rolfstomped everyone without any effort except for Fermata. It's depend how high is Goku into low 2-C, from what i tell, Goku may still stomp :v

i forgot to mention that other than the Barrier Jacket, each of the member has their own pocket dimension called Robotic;Note, which the seven chord members has to actively provides the magical energy to maintain them. If the Magi have their magical weapon reflect their inner self, the Holy Knights has the Robotic;Note reflect their inner self. The biggest R;N we've seen so far is Julius's Catastrophe Falleus, which is a universe infinite in size has the unique ability to overwrites and merges with other pocket realities.

The most important ability of the Holy Knights, is an ability called "Link Slash". Since the Miracles are not magical weapon, they cannot leave a scratch on the Magi's magical weapon. But with Link Slash, the Holy Knights can sever the link between magi and their magical weapon and returns them to the normal human being. "A power to turn gods into the mortal man" is how Faust descripe it. The magical weapon that got severed will be stolen by the Holy Knights and stored in Voluspa's organization
 
He might but he's pretty fitting at least lol.

Neato.

Wonder if that's specific to the verse alone. Not saying if it can be used to sever an Apostle from their Relics but wondering still lol
 
The ability mentioned the magical weapons alone. So in equalization thread, the relics has to be the ones that ties with your existence. Otherwise, i dont think we can equalize it :v
 
seriously tho, if we going with the verse equalization, Fortissimo would be the one get the most disadvantage in the VS threads
 
Odin would probably be one of the fewest you can debate that won't necessarily at a disadvantage lol.
 
In the end, Odin is likely the only one you can uses in VS thread lol

And all magi's drafts are done, we're pretty much done with the profiles drafting state. Now i only need some minor things in the drafts then we can finally moves to the final state, the Revision Thread.

Also, i just rewatched the Reiji vs Odin fight. Look like Reiji did tanked Odin's Overlimit Gungnir (A more powerful version of Gungnir, but we dont know how much stronger it is) and survived without much strenght left. This should give him 5-B in durability and it's likely that he will also has "End of Ragnarok" key like Sayuki.
 
Also, do you still has access to E-h***** (which probally is the only source for Kadenz CG right now) ? It's seem like i cant enter the site anymore. Which is kinda bad since we need the Kadenz Fermata's CGs to make the characters profiles
 
Pretty much lol.

Noice.

That's pretty good to have. It's unknown but I can guess it's at least above baseline planet so there's that.

Not sure if that's safe to do here but...yeah there's a link to it. DK if you can access it on your end but oh well, YOLO.

HERE.
 
Yep, seem like the site has blocked the connection from my country. Will counting on you guy to get the CGs in the future then lol
 
lol.

Any images in mind or just char images that looks suitable? I'm currently resuming Japanese learning ('Bout over 200 rn atm lol) but I can try and look at them later.
 
Nah, currently doesnt has any char in mind right now. Just though about it since we gonna make KF profiles in the future. And dayum, you're already memorized over 200 kanji ??? That's pretty impressive O-O
 
Ah. I'll still see into it if I can tonight. Might not post by then but can do it around tomorrow later.

Eh not so much lol. I mean I CAN but I only memorize a fraction of those 200+ Kanji. I know what the numbers are somewhat to like that of Moon or Sun as well as other Kanji's like Spirit/Mind and World but all those are the most basic/"easiest" ones you can learn enough to just know what it roughly means.

Rn I'm presumably at N3 level of Kanji tho the site I use to learn these Kanji's are weird cuz you end up reaching 3 after the first 100 yet it gets you to like...4 to 1 and not 5 that I've been told from Red. That gives me a thought that either 5 is outdated or it's merged with 4 altogether. Either way, I'm at around that range to learning them.
 
well, i guess they merged N5 with N4. Come to think about it, the 2 levels arent really that much difference in difficulity. You seem to manages it better than i expected or maybe it's just me being bad at everything i learn :v.
 
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