Force User Striking Strength stats

[Drellix]

So I've recently noticed how all the Force users have had their striking strengths updated to star level or multi continental. What is the basis of this upgrade as it makes no sense whatsoever. This would mean the B2 Battle Droids that Mace Windu fought in the Clone Wars cartoon are star level in durability.

So can someone please explain this to me?

 

[The_Everlasting]

Because if their striking strength was so pathetic compared to their Force abilities why would they even bother with physical combat?

 

[Drellix]

But that means that all the physical fights they have outside other force users are PIS

 

[Reppuzan]

In addition, Force Amplification/Force Valor allows Jedi and Sith to bolster their physical abilities with their mastery of the Force. Greater strength in the Force = Greater Physical Strength.

 

[The_Everlasting]

But that means that all the physical fights they have outside other force users are PIS

Uh, no?

 

[Drellix]

But that means that all the physical fights they have outside other force users are PIS

Uh, no?

No? Then explain why Jedi needed an army of Clones when they could have physically bested the Droid armies by themselves. Lets not forget all the skirmishes they had with any other characters, such as Cad Bane, Durge, Pre Vizla, Maul fighting the Wampa (which the book stated he was seriously fighting for his life).

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force-imbued_blade

Before Lightsabers were invented, the ancient Force-sensitives used these as weapons. Regular weapons through which they channeled their Force-powers.

It was only after Lightsabers were invented that non Force-sensitives started using these types of weapons. And the power of a Lightsaber is proportional to one's power in the Force. See Darth Sidious' Lightsaber which is described as a Dark Side nexus due to the sheer amount of Force that flows through it.

So yes, Jedi and Sith can definitely amplify their strength.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Show me an actual instance where a Jedi is inconvenienced by a droid physically.

Durge is High 6-A and I'm pretty sure Pre Vizla is too.

 

[Drellix]

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force-imbued_blade
Before Lightsabers were invented, the ancient Force-sensitives used these as weapons. Regular weapons through which they channeled their Force-powers.

It was only after Lightsabers were invented that non Force-sensitives started using these types of weapons. And the power of a Lightsaber is proportional to one's power in the Force. See Darth Sidious' Lightsaber which is described as a Dark Side nexus due to the sheer amount of Force that flows through it.

So yes, Jedi and Sith can definitely amplify their strength.

Never said they can't amplify it.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Drellix

Generally because authors can't do math and don't understand the magnitude of their in-story statements, as is with 99% of verses.

 

[Drellix]

Show me an actual instance where a Jedi is inconvenienced by a droid physically.
Durge is High 6-A and I'm pretty sure Pre Vizla is too.

Can't think of any off the top of my head.

How is that possible? Are Wampa's 6-A now too, because Maul had a very difficult time with one.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Some are PIS and others are not. You can't blanketly say that every Jedi vs. non Force Sensitive is PIS.

You need to actually analyze the character and see if it makes sense for them to scale.

Durge, for instance, repeatedly fights Obi-Wan, Anakin and Grievous, so him scaling is fine.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_weapo

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alter_Damage

Other abilities that involve enhancing physical strength.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Is there a Force Ability tied to enhancing punching strength specifically?

 

[Drellix]

Again, a Wampa was able to harm Maul. Are Wampa's now 6-A?

 

[The_Everlasting]

Some are PIS and others are not. You can't blanketly say that every Jedi vs. non Force Sensitive is PIS.
You need to actually analyze the character and see if it makes sense for them to scale.

Durge, for instance, repeatedly fights Obi-Wan, Anakin and Grievous, so him scaling is fine.

Did you just completely ignore what I said?

 

[Js250476]

Most likely it's a case by case scenario essentially

 

[Reppuzan]

@Matt

Force Valor, Mace Windu used it to make short work of numerous Droids after being disarmed.

 

[Js250476]

My god that scene is awesome

 

[SheevShezarrine]

I also kinda have a problem with some of them having identical striking strength to their AP. As far as I know, while Force barriers are commonly used against energy attacks, they're never used against physical strikes. Jedi and Sith certainly have striking strength that is definitely superhuman, but I wouldn't say they have the power to frag the Earth's surface with a punch like they're Saitama

 

[Reppuzan]

@Sheev

Like we've said, it's a case of authors not understanding the magnitude of the feats they're giving their characters.

If Lightsaber combat was so much weaker than the use of their Force powers, then there would be no point in engaging in Lightsaber combat.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Test.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

@Sheev

Like we've said, it's a case of authors not understanding the magnitude of the feats they're giving their characters.

If Lightsaber combat was so much weaker than the use of their Force powers, then there would be no point in engaging in Lightsaber combat.

I'm pretty sure anyone giving their character a surface-glassing feat knows full well how busted such a thing is. They might not know the AP down to the last joule, but they certainly can comprehend the magnitude and power. And as I said, Jedi could still find lightsabers useful if a Force barrier isn't tooled for use against someone swinging a lightsaber like a Louisville slugger. In addition, lightsabers present less risk of collateral damage compared to going all-out in a Force duel, and Jedi would much rather not cause buildings to crumble every time they met an acoylte of the Dark Side. In addition, lightsabers take less training to block energy attacks with than The Force. In canon and Legends, we more often than not see Jedi of even Council level blocking lightning and blasters with a lightsaber instead of barriers and tutaminis. And in Legends, bounty hunters often used flamethrowers in battle against Jedi because it was established that most Jedi weren't able to reliably use tutaminis in combat situations.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

To block Force Lightning with a Lightsaber requires use of the Force.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Sheev

You're using the AoE Fallacy.

 

[Davidgumazon]

@Sheev
You're using the AoE Fallacy.

What AoE Fallacy?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Just because a character has planet level Striking Strength does not mean they have the ability to blow up a planet with with a punch