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Fnaf at freddys discussion thread!
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The new page for Novel William is fine, but it feels like it was sort of copy pasted from Games william. It's fine, but could use a little touching up.
Also, why is Novels William using Game Remnant? Shouldn't Novel remnant get it's own page entirely? I thought we separated those Novels from the games.
Also, why is Novels William using Game Remnant? Shouldn't Novel remnant get it's own page entirely? I thought we separated those Novels from the games.
Ruby_R_Dracula
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The only thing I took from the Games were cyborgization, the Springtrap key being named Post-Springlocked, and Minor Body Control (Which Springtrap has)
it's just the old deleted profile that I took and fixed up
but yeah I agree, It probably needs some touching up a bit
idk ask @Dark_Soul20189 he's the one who asked for me to add remnant saying it crossscales or smth
the old profile I uploaded originally had no remnant
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I did notice you upgraded his final key to 9-B. Is there any reason the animatronics he damaged scale to mangle/freddy? I don't really see the scaling, especially when the animatronics were able to easily harm him, and had him bleeding all over the floor.
Overall i think it's fine. his final key is really my biggest gripe.
I don't think it cross scales. i believe there was an effort to separate the continuities. More knowledgeable members would have to correct me if im wrong though.
Ruby_R_Dracula
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He didn't really have a "The Fourth Closet" Key in his deleted profile so I had to make him one
I saw the feat of him Stomping on Funtime Freddy's Head, breaking it's Jaw and causing it to dislodge its teeth from his leg
and considering both-
I thought "I think that could scale.... right?"
edit: Nvm, It was some random bear, thought it was Funtime Freddy
im fine with downgrading him.
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He had one originally but it was deleted cuz it wasn't notable or something. Never read the charlie trilogy books so i never really fought it and assumed they were right.
No idea what they were talking about, considering your profile.
Yeah, it sounds like he's more consistently Below Average to Average Human. Probably move the feat of him being bitten to his stamina section and upgrade that to something like peak human or whatever.
I think he just needs a weakness that he has trouble moving most of the time and he'll be fine.
Ruby_R_Dracula
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are there any more problems?
also I do have a question, what was the main reason Springtrap scales to the other Animatronics? other than being Springtrap
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Just at a glance and my complete non-knowledge of the books, it seems fine unless theres just things completely missing lol.
I think it was based off the fact the twisted animatronics being weaker than the main gang. Idk if he ever throws hands with any animatronics as springtrap.
And the fact he was springtrap.
Ruby_R_Dracula
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ah, ic.
well I hope William's statement of "newfound strength when he became springtrap" would be able to keep him there.
also do you know anyone that would be willing to calc things for this verse.
cuz there's a feat that might give good LS for the book trilogy animatronics
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The arcade throw is probably uncalcable, we have pretty much no idea of distance
Ruby_R_Dracula
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im talking about Freddy crushing Balloon Boy's head with one hand.
We gotten LS for the Mimic from him crushing a steel bar so I feel like we can calc that feat from Freddy for LS
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It probably is enough to scale him to the feats of the main gang.
a calc member... wanting to calc for FNAF?!?!?! Never seen before.
Ruby_R_Dracula
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well......
FNaF Secret of the Mimic Calc: Mimic's Wall Busting
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This Calc group member doesn't appear in the supporter nor neutral section of the verse page, and this is a calc about FNAF so uh idk
anyways time to dump that sh*t into the calc request thread
should be easier than the calcs for Sotm
Ruby_R_Dracula
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Ruby_R_Dracula
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Y'all got any good matchups for this mofo?
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Freddy Fazbear (Book Trilogy)
Freddy Fazbear is an animatronic and is one of the many antagonists in the Five Nights at Freddy's novel series. Freddy is a brown animatronic bear with a light shade of brown on both his stomach and muzzle. Unlike his game version, he is much more aggressive, stealthier, and stronger at night...
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Yeah, the events and scaling do not scale to each other, but metaphysical aspects (remnant and Agony) and verse mechanics (for example, ghosts communicating through pictures)
So "functions and properties" of remnant and Agony would cross scale, while any scaling chain or event would not.
Ruby_R_Dracula
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some of the profile links from the verse page, just being links and not linked images bugs me
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Frights and Novels remnant was opted to not be used on the remnant page because it's far more expanded on and acts a bit different than it does in the mainline universe. It's why we don't have tier 7 Games Afton anymore (Thank god)
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Would you be willing to comment on that a bit more?
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Frights and Novels remnant have some differences. Frights has storm creating shit through emotions and Novels specifically i believe has a bit of a different usage.
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I am just wondering where the AP comes from, and the Remnant and Agony stuff should still cross scale (not AP-wise),
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Ruby_R_Dracula
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Also @Comiphorous did the changes you told me to do
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Im making a CRT on it once this calc gets accepted
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which btw @That_moron2 someone had some questions about the calc
Ms.Luzifer/William Afton (Silver Eyes and Fazbear Frights)
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Im making a CRT on it once this calc gets accepted
FNAF Books: Freddy Crushes Enragement Child
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which btw @That_moron2 someone had some questions about the calc
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Why would we pick and choose specific aspects of the other continuities that cross scale? that makes no sense. either it does or doesn't.
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As I said, they are the same canon, just different continuities, so we treat verse rules and mechanics as the same.
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Adjusted it accordingly
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I'm fine with either as long as it's either you fully cross scale them or you DON'T cross scale them at all. You can't just pick and choose specific parts but leave out some because it doesn't make any sense to the other continuity.
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I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. I fully support cross-scaling Remnant and Agony. What I don't cross-scale are the "feats" of those, meaning if a user can, for example, lift something with telekenesis, the ability will be shared, but not the "feat" itself.
Sorry, my English and explanations are hot garbage, but I hope that I explained it better.
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Yeah but if you cross scale an agony user being able to create storms over towns, then your cross scaling the feat. Because thats what happens in fazbear frights. a weak agony user creates a storm around a town. It's not the abilities are small in the different continuities. A CRT was specifically made to seperate frights and novels from the mainline, im not sure why were trying to undo that.
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No, I would cross-scale the ability to "create storms", but I wouldn't scale the range or AP of it.
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So you’re advocating for a composite profile, even though that’s makes no sense??? An entirely different continuity, different characters, are able to do something completely different with remnant and we wanna scale that to the other continuities?
No wonder Mods don’t wanna touch this verse
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OrangeFR
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The properties crosscale because books/other media has been used to solve the lore of the main games for years, including figuring out the properties of agony and remnant by the community, and Scott directly stated all media is canon, just in different continuities and can be used to solve lore. It crosscaling has been accepted for a long time by mods and is the state of the current profile.So you’re advocating for a composite profile, even though that’s makes no sense??? An entirely different continuity, different characters, are able to do something completely different with remnant and we wanna scale that to the other continuities?
No wonder Mods don’t wanna touch this verse
(Also, the storm feat you tried to use to debunk cross scaling is done with grief [not agony, crazy I know], which was accepted to not scale to agony because they are different emotions. IRRC it was also accepted to just be environmental destruction anyway so grief users don’t scale to it in AP, and there is quite literally one major grief user in the whole franchise.)
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Also in order for abilities to be shared between Remnant/Agony users the abilities have to be displayed 2-3 separate times (depending on how important the ability is), and since the only example of the storm creation is Blackbird it wouldn't be given to anyone even if it was agony/remnant based (which it isn't).
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Using it to solve the lore and using it to give every game character abilities that haven't even been showcased in the said continuity it's cross-scaling to at all in the first place is a bit different.
Like how far are we gonna push this "all media is canon, but in different continuities" statement? why is it bent to make profiling a character easier by separating continuities for their character but also bent the other way to make sure some profiles have walls of abilities that they've never been depicted capable of in the said continuity?
As of right now there's several threads that use characters like Games William where supporters will be quick to argue he'd use an ability that not only has he never been depicted capable of using, but said ability coming from a completely different fnaf continuity.
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Shit we can't even prove he canonically uses illusions
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Is Tales still canon in the wiki? Cuz Mimic's profile seemingly still says that despite the profile being updated with sotm(at least judging by a glance).
Also, how hopeless is it for FNAF World staff involvement.
Also, how hopeless is it for FNAF World staff involvement.
Ruby_R_Dracula
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it's not canon anymore
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We can't prove a lot of shit William without the help of other characters from different continuities. If we used just the games and books canon to the games, that mf would largely be haxless beyond his inability to stay dead and a few other stuff he'd get.
It honestly feels like it's using Scott's statement as a way to make William haxier than he actually is in the games.
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We claim he causes phantoms and illusionary duplicates, but he doesn't, the shitty ventilation system that has a several hundred pound decrepit springlock suit with a rotting carcass in it occasionally does, thanks to ol' Phone Dude basically saying he's had such illusionary problems before they even had the rotting rabbit.
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It just feels ridiculous. I get the sentiment on using it for story, but abilities should have never crossed together between continuities.
It's just strange for someone as egotistical, power hungry, and knowledgeable on Remnant as William Afton himself is simply either unaware or chooses not to weaponize all the shit he can do with remnant and agony if all the abilities did cross scale.
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