FMA 7-C revision.

[ShrekAnakin]

Anyone read these yet? It's WIP, but they're quality calcs https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OmgXFfV8-C3dg1BKga94okhLNYHudig_rIXb63Df76Y/edit

 

[RoyGundam]

Ok. Goku's human level at best, he got killed by a lazer.

Goku getting hurt by the laser was specifically addressed by in verse power mechanics and logic. You're clearly reaching there and I even made it explicitly clear that I agree with Tier 7 offensive alchemic feats because it is consistent with the in-verse explanation

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

I don't mean Goku's laser anti feat is comparable, you're just using low end bullet feats. Ed's got the shit beaten out of him by pretty much every character in the series.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

The Sorbet's laser example was literally just Goku heavily suppressing his defenses because he was distracted. Plus, Sorbet's laser was no ordinary laser; it's at the very least able to severely harm characters with planet level durability.

Although, even Tier 8 or 9-B characters would logically be very bullet resistant and bullets are super common tropes. But that being said, 7-C is still massively outlierish for anyone that doesn't use Philosopher Stones or Father for other reasons. Roy and AKM explained it all in detail.

 

[RoyGundam]

To be fair Sloth was explicitly shown to be resistant to bullets, grenades, rocket launchers and Tank shells, and physical powerhouses like Major Armstrong and Sig Curtis scale to him. I believe that's outright 9-A and higher with Sloth's incredible speed, so 8-C physical durability based on calcs is still fine because it's not that inconsistent with what was directly shown to be the case in the manga

 

[AKM sama]

Anyway, I think this upgrade proposal has been rejected. Should I close the thread?

 

[ShrekAnakin]

Eh, I still think there's stuff to be talked about. Others can jump in and give thoughts.

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Yeah, please don't close this yet.

 

[AKM sama]

What stuff exactly needs to be talked about now?

 

[ShrekAnakin]

I mean, people could offer constructive critiscm to others points on stuff. Which I am thinking about countering later, I just might need to get some others to help out first, and shine their opinions.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I'm not sure what needs to be discussed, but it needs to be pointed out that there's a limit how many times arguments can be circled before it's time to just close the thread.

 

[RoyGundam]

If we care even a little bit about authorial intent, we should treat Tier 7 physical durability calcs (for human characters) as outliers in FMA.

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Well, Ed got the shit beaten out of him out of Pride for instance, and was moderately okay.

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Eh, maybe close this thread I guess? I still stand on my points, but it seems it was mostly rejected, and I don't want to seem like I'm trying to confuse anybody into agreeing.