Fixing the Aeon Physiology page so it is lore-accurate enough for them to be absolutely curb-stomped by Herrschers

[Vietthai96]

No. Layered NEP 1 . The character must be a non-existent that lacks the non-existent. So a non-existent that is not non-existent.

Jeez.. So Nonduality is required..

You don't really need to be nondual, just as long as you nonexistent and is neither existent (1) or nonexistent (0), since some verses didn't treat existent and nonexistent as duality. You can either be encompass both or not at all, as long as you do not be either of these two states then it is fine

 

[Voidnether]

You don't really need to be nondual, just as long as you nonexistent and is neither existent (1) or nonexistent (0), since some verses didn't treat existent and nonexistent as duality. You can either be encompass both or not at all, as long as you do not be either of these two states then it is fine

That's just duality tbh

 

[Furina003]

Unconventional Resistance is the opposite of this, you're required to manipulate the Soul & Information to finally affect them.. And mind you, it's not just the Soul & Information but also the mind / consciousness.

No, HSR characters will not get it, if they only have a soul that contains information

soul minipulation is still soul manipulation, and so is information manipulation. The soul containing information is nothing special, this is normal, because information is more fundamental than the soul.

For the resistance itself, information is contained in the soul, this does not mean that the soul cannot be manipulated, there must be proof that their soul cannot be manipulated. and the same is true for resistance to information, not just because the information is in the soul, it doesn't mean the information can't be manipulated.

 

[Voidnether]

No, HSR characters will not get it, if they only have a soul that contains information

soul minipulation is still soul manipulation, and so is information manipulation. The soul containing information is nothing special, this is normal, because information is more fundamental than the soul.

For the resistance itself, information is contained in the soul, this does not mean that the soul cannot be manipulated, there must be proof that their soul cannot be manipulated. and the same is true for resistance to information, not just because the information is in the soul, it doesn't mean the information can't be manipulated.

Too much assumptions + too much requirements, if this was the actual standard then it's just not hsr but every unconventional resistance that exist would be gone. Plus, OP only wanted to downgrade it to Type 1 Information.

If soul still could be manipulated without manipulating the information that exists inside, what's the use of unconventional resistance in the first place? This is irrelevant anyways with the downgrade, except if you want to make another thread then go on

 

[Furina003]

Too much assumptions + too much requirements, if this was the actual standard then it's just not hsr but every unconventional resistance that exist would be gone. Plus, OP only wanted to downgrade it to Type 1 Information.

If soul still could be manipulated without manipulating the information that exists inside, what's the use of unconventional resistance in the first place? This is irrelevant anyways with the downgrade, except if you want to make another thread then go on

Even the rejection of HSR is just an assumption, not a clear feat if only based on it. Yes, I agree with Garrixian, and only give my view if this section does not get information manipulation and resistance

 

[Voidnether]

Even the rejection of HSR is just an assumption, not a clear feat if only based on it. Yes, I agree with Garrixian, and only give my view if this section does not get information manipulation and resistance

Information manipulation is definitely out, but resistance stays since Garrixian isn't going to remove it and she's just replacing it with Type 1 (I'm still debating that it's Type 2 though the moment Garrixian replies to this thread).

 

[Digital_Franz]

You don't really need to be nondual, just as long as you nonexistent and is neither existent (1) or nonexistent (0), since some verses didn't treat existent and nonexistent as duality.

Fair enough.

You can either be encompass both or not at all, as long as you do not be either of these two states then it is fine

It should be noted that in addition to encompassing both the character must be said to be non-existent otherwise it will be rejected like with Veldanava.

 

[Digital_Franz]

They don't have Soul & Information Manipulation, it's just Unconventional Resistance

They have them. Check out the TENSURA General Concepts page.

Unconventional Resistance is the opposite of this, you're required to manipulate the Soul & Information to finally affect them..

No. As the Informations are inside the soul not outside.

And mind you, it's not just the Soul & Information but also the mind / consciousness.

Just inside.

Ironic how I used HSR's Information Type 2 and GoH as an example of Information Type 2 back in Ben 10 threads..

I don't know about HSR's Information Type 2.

 

[Ar1216789]

Those who have realized the evanescence of time shall heed your word no longer.

 

[Woomica]

bump

 

[GarrixianXD]

This thread honestly feels derailed. I'll like to see scans of those souls being correlated to Silver Wolf's Aether Editing and the Fragmentum, as well as type 1 nonduality being approved.

@Aernasilver @Voidnether

 

[Voidnether]

This thread honestly feels derailed. I'll like to see scans of those souls being correlated to Silver Wolf's Aether Editing and the Fragmentum, as well as type 1 nonduality being approved.

@Aernasilver @Voidnether

Aether Editing tampers with the data of reality, data themselves makes up life even the Trailblazer himself was made out of data stated by Screwllum. The same way how the Trailblazer is created by Silver Wolf's data in the beginning of the game, further it's explained that the same data contains Kafka's DNA and other Stellaron Hunter members. Not only that, data also makes up Fragmentum entities as their inherent information is combined with data. And it's also stated to be Aether Information.

About Type 1 Nonduality, it was approved the moment Enryu makes the profile for HooH

The rest, I'm still waiting for Enryu to reply mostly to Tayzzyronth's case for Aeon's High-Godly Regeneration. The rest feels like derailed, tbh like Unconventional Resistance & NPI even though that'll stay.

 

[Shiroiyo]

Bump

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

My return is briefly but I have time enough to answer this CRT, I will have to agree with nearly everything @GarrixianXD proposed, but Tayzzyronth's return is a major plot that has been slowly building, so we'll probably have more solid proof of High-Godly regen in the future or not, who knows, but I must disagree with the downgrade of Fundamental Information Type 2 to Type 1 due to what @Voidnether said in the comment above

About Nonduality Type 1, well, it was added together with HooH's profile when the page was created, during the time the Aeons were still 3-A up to 2-C

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Bump

 

[GarrixianXD]

Aether Editing tampers with the data of reality, data themselves makes up life even the Trailblazer himself was made out of data stated by Screwllum. The same way how the Trailblazer is created by Silver Wolf's data in the beginning of the game, further it's explained that the same data contains Kafka's DNA and other Stellaron Hunter members. Not only that, data also makes up Fragmentum entities as their inherent information is combined with data. And it's also stated to be Aether Information.

About Type 1 Nonduality, it was approved the moment Enryu makes the profile for HooH

The rest, I'm still waiting for Enryu to reply mostly to Tayzzyronth's case for Aeon's High-Godly Regeneration. The rest feels like derailed, tbh like Unconventional Resistance & NPI even though that'll stay.

So, is Fragmentum the same thing as souls?

 

[Voidnether]

So, is Fragmentum the same thing as souls?

No, Fragmentum in itself is made out of data but Fragmentum is able to affect and corrupt Automatons and Xianzhou Automatons have souls.

 

[Shiroiyo]

Bump

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Bumpo

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

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