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More clean-up
Her speed justification regarding the Green Sun should be removed, since the Sun itself don't look anything big, wouldn't be a reason for Immeasurable and its just her resurrection anyway.Homestuck canonicity blog
This blog should be added in case anyone may think that we're putting non-canon stuff on the profiles (saw some people in the fandom who are quite puzzled by how canon is now an in-verse thing and not fully understanding it).Limited Cosmic Awareness and 4th Wall to Hiveswap dudes
So most HS characters have limited Cosmic Awareness and 4th Wall Breaking. I think Hiveswap dudes should too, because of the tons of 4th Wall and similar breaking like in Homestuck.To list some of them:
-Lanque's route first choice, where Ardata warn you about NSFW stuff and Lynera saying age restriction don't apply to her since she's not real
-The famous Marvus discussion
-Joey making a typical 4th Wall breaking
And much more, which tbh can easily be found here and there
Joey upgrades
So besides the fact that dodging Nihkee's punch was removed meaning I can't do speed scaling like I intendedJoey got new stuff:
She learned a bee dance especially made to make them react to her and create their weird saliva ; which would likely be some form of limited Animal Manipulation
Given how easily she's able to get help from the same dudes who make MSPAR have Social Influencing, she should get this ability.
Her intelligence section should include more stuff, like being able to hold her own in a trial, getting help from others pretty easily or trick highbloods into thinking she comitted murder; although it should be nuanced by the fact that she needed help in the trial and that Marvus voluntary accepted the tricks
Xefros upgrades
Joey got stuff, but Xefros surprisingly got better ones. He should get Rage Power. It's pretty obvious from his fight with Azdaja (where he becomes stronger because he's mad about Joey being hurt) and the fact that he is of the Rage aspect.He should scale above MSPAR, being able to tackle Baizli and scaring Tegiri when proposing to fight despite still having broken bones. Since he was already implied to be stronger than the regular dudes of his caste, it wouldn't make any problem.
Also his stamina likely should get upgraded, since he did all of Act 2 with broken bones.
Speeds changes
Hiveswap
In Nihkee's route, MSPAR goes through a lot of training, one of them being going toe-toe with a punching bag which send sonic waves everytime you hit it. Although MSPAR themself aren't said to have succeeded; Nihkee should have a "possibly Subsonic" rating, since she's a well-trained troll who constantly uses the material shown in the room. Others trolls who could qualify are Purpleblood her age like Marvus or Chahut , which shouldn't be too far below her.Another thing is: why MSPAR has Peak Human speed? No feats remotely implied this, and the only numbered speed we have is his top running speed, being 12 miles per hour (which is very average). As such, them and everyone scaling should only get an average speed (unless they're like Nihkee)
Homestuck
So the problem here is mid-tiers FTL+ speed.Here's the justifications for it, being respectively from Sollux's and Jack's profile.
"Threw the troll's meteor to the Green Sun within a very short timeframe, and later, into the Furthest Ring at sufficient speed to reach another session within three years. Should be comparable or superior to his ancestor, the Psiionic, who was able to move The Condesce's flagship thousands of light years within a matter of hours."
"Capable of incredibly quick interplanetary travel"
However, each have their own flaws:
-The Troll meteor's feat is done in the Furthest Ring, where time and space are non-linear and all. Plus Sollux was helped by Aradia and died in the process.
-There's absolutely no reason to consider him above the Psiionic nor comparable. Not all Goldbloods are comparable and no feats were remotely comparable to it .
-Planets/Lands are planet-sized. The medium isn't in any way similar to space or our universe. So there's no reason to assume it needs FTL+ speed.
Now what feats could work?
If anyone think of one of the nearly LS/LS statements, it's a no. Besides being proven as BS for Jade and because of Furthest Ring, Dave himself called out the fact that it was likely BS and not going at this speed anyway.
Now the only thing I see besides scaling to the Kids is this calc based on a WoG saying that Bro threw a batarang before a note "could fall even a single nanometer".
I could understand that this feat may be seen as an outlier or not enough (and there's likely others feats which could be used to contradict it), so I'm more proposing it as a "possibly" rather than a straight FTL+.
Including things such as Aspects in Notable Attacks/Techniques (when it's relevant)
Didn't worked on it yet, but someone suggested that we should have Classpects under Notable Attacks/Techniques.Class merely being "how you use your aspect"; I think it would be more useful to have the Aspect listed, with the description explaining what it is and how it is used by the character. It can work for both Homestuck characters and Hiveswap ones, as long as they have shown some abilities (like if they're just a random Void player, they naturally gain Resistance to Mind Read + Precog/Clairvoyance but it isn't worth putting it in Notable Attacks/Techniques)
I'll likely have some draft or sandbox in the following day(s).
Conclusion
So to resume everything:-Rose's speed justification with the Green Sun should be removed
-Canonicity blog gets added
-Hiveswap characters all gets limited 4th Wall/Cosmic Awareness like HS ones
-Joey and Xefros get new stuff
-Speed get changed for Hiveswap characters, "Average Human Speed" with possibly Subsonic for the strongest ones.
-HS mid-tier speed gets changed to something else. Maybe "Supersonic+, possibly FTL+"
-Aspects should be included in Notable Attacks/Techniques section when relevant, but some draft should be made before
I also intend to do a troll physiology page but it takes some time.
