Fire question

[Theglassman12]

If there's a statement that there's a dimension that's so cold that the concept of fire can't burn there, but someone's able to have fire that burns in said dimension, would that give any conceptual manipulation, or just much hotter flames?

 

[ImmortalDread]

If there's a statement that there's a dimension that's so cold that the concept of fire can't burn there, but someone's able to have fire that burns in said dimension, would that give any conceptual manipulation, or just much hotter flames?

I guess it's range but definitely not conceptual manipulation unless the person created the concept of fire in said dimension which in your case is not.

 

[Theglassman12]

how is it range? He's not burning the entire dimension, he's just able to have fire in his arsenal.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Hmmm... my GoW senses are burning.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Resistance to Power Nullification on a Conceptual Level maybe?

If the dimension is so cold it stops the very concept of fire from existing then it's basically nullifying the ability to create fire on a conceptual level.

 

[NIK_FARIS]

cold fire

 

[Theglassman12]

bump

 

[ImmortalDread]

how is it range? He's not burning the entire dimension, he's just able to have fire in his arsenal.

Then conceptual manipulation but also the context are needed. Since he could create the concept of fire in that dimension. Like, I don't see the context how he did it?
Or resistance to Power Nullification on a conceptual Level

 

[Theglassman12]

he has a personal weapon that can create fire, and it works inside the dimension when a reliable source tells him that no other fire in all the realms they're in can burn there. And there's a character who's the literal source of fire itself to the point his birth created all the stars in the cosmos, and is stated to be a primordial, which is conceptual in the verse, not even that guy's flames can burn, but this other character with his own flame weapons is capable of doing this.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

Could be resistance to Law Manip, if said space-time's laws dictate fire can not exist.

 

[Mr._Undetected]

Greater Fire Manipulation

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

Hmmm... my GoW senses are burning.

it seems you are too well acquainted with the verse

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Enhanced Conceptual Fire, Enhanced High Temperature, Enhanced Law Manip, Enhanced Resistance to Conceptual Power Nullification, Space-Time Manip, Law Manip.

@Aetheric Pariah This sounds better doesn't it?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Enhanced Conceptual Fire, Enhanced High Temperature, Enhanced Law Manip, Enhanced Resistance to Conceptual Power Nullification, Space-Time Manip, Law Manip.

@Aetheric Pariah This sounds better doesn't it?

Why space-time manipulation?

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Pariah knows why..

 

[Andika_CL_atmadja]

I hope there will be more elaboration about Helheim in GoW Ragnarok....

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

Enhanced Conceptual Fire, Enhanced High Temperature, Enhanced Law Manip, Enhanced Resistance to Conceptual Power Nullification, Space-Time Manip, Law Manip.

@Aetheric Pariah This sounds better doesn't it?

Screw you and your enhanced

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Screw you and your enhanced

 

[Galaxi789]

If there's a statement that there's a dimension that's so cold that the concept of fire can't burn there, but someone's able to have fire that burns in said dimension, would that give any conceptual manipulation, or just much hotter flames?

what verse is 1A from

 

[Theglassman12]

It's not a 1-A verse, don't know where you got that idea from.

 

[Theglassman12]

bump

 

[Darksmash]

If it's more of a law that fire cannot burn in said location then I guess it would be resistance to law manipulation.

 

[Ningenron]

Yea, that seems to be some kind of resistance to law manipulation, I'd say.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Yup

 

[ATalentedMaid]

Enhanced Conceptual Fire, Enhanced High Temperature, Enhanced Law Manip, Enhanced Resistance to Conceptual Power Nullification, Space-Time Manip, Law Manip.

@Aetheric Pariah This sounds better doesn't it?

It's about BoC be able to cast a fire in Helheim, isn't?

If so, then I'd incline toward those two above.

 

[ATalentedMaid]

Also giving a full contexts behind it, in case anyone's interested.

Muspelheim is said to be the very source of fire itself, It's where Surtr and the Fire Giants come from. The guy that brought heat to the cosmos and conjuring the sun with his Sword.

Quoting what mimir said :
"Surtr the Brave? Of course! We've spoken so much of Frost Giants, it's about time we instead met the most fiery Giant of all. Back when Ymir first emerged from Ginnungagap, it was Surtr who followed next. He came from Muspelheim, the fire realm, bringing heat to the young cosmos, conquering the Sun his primordial flame"

And Helheim a realm where the cold within is so cold that no fire in the Nine Realms can stay alight. "It is a land of unyielding cold. Fires cannot burn there, and no magic in all the Nine Realms can create a blaze. As for the dead... your frost axe will be useless." - Freya

Yet with all of these things Blade of Chaos can perform such a feat in Helheim.