Fate franchise questions.

[MysticBrawler]

There are 3 things that I'd like to ask:

1)What type of Conceptual Manipulation do mages and servants resist?

2)Are the mages listed resistances 3D or 4D?

3)Are all of a Servant's listed resistances 4D or is it just the Magecraft resistances.

 

[MysticBrawler]

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[MysticBrawler]

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[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

There are 3 things that I'd like to ask:

1)What type of Conceptual Manipulation do mages and servants resist?

Uh, it's weird. I think they're treated as all types, but I could be wrong.

2)Are the mages listed resistances 3D or 4D?

They're 4D.

3)Are all of a Servant's listed resistances 4D or is it just the Magecraft resistances.

They're all 4D.

 

[MysticBrawler]

Uh, it's weird. I think they're treated as all types, but I could be wrong.

They're 4D.

They're all 4D.

So what you're saying is not even Conceptual Manipulation(Type 1) would work against them? I could understand if that was the case for servants(and even then I can't help but think that's already going too far), but isn't that kind of assumption already veering into NLF territory for the mages?

I see, thanks for the clarification.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

So what you're saying is not even Conceptual Manipulation(Type 1) would work against them? I could understand if that was the case for servants(and even then I can't help but think that's already going too far), but isn't that kind of assumption already veering into NLF territory for the mages?

It's kind of weird. From my understanding, concepts and conceptual manipulation in the Nasuverse don't fall under/act like just one type of concept and qualify for all types, which is why they're treated as well types.

Though, I could be wrong there. Some of the more knowledgeable members might know more.

The reason it's not a no limits fallacy is because mages use and resist concept manipulation, which is treated as all types.

Though, it they're opponent has 5D or layered 4D type one concept manipulation, mages can't resist that.

I see, thanks for the clarification.

You're welcome! I'm always happy to help!

 

[MysticBrawler]

Bumping for further clarification regarding Conceptual Manipulation

 

[Violetcyanide]

1)What type of Conceptual Manipulation do mages and servants resist?

Type 1,each consecutive types are merely branches of type 1,so type 1 just so happened to include type 2,3 and whatnot

2)Are the mages listed resistances 3D or 4D?

4d is baseline hax.

3)Are all of a Servant's listed resistances 4D or is it just the Magecraft resistances.

Baseline hax in nasuverse is 4d,however servant and certain characters do possess hax resistance and hax from high tiers,those get the 6d,possible 8d tier.

 

[MysticBrawler]

Type 1,each consecutive types are merely branches of type 1,so type 1 just so happened to include type 2,3 and whatnot

4d is baseline hax.

Baseline hax in nasuverse is 4d,however servant and certain characters do possess hax resistance and hax from high tiers,those get the 6d,possible 8d tier.

I see, thanks for the further clarification.