Everybody Want To Rule The World 24

[Hl3_or_bust]

[>Monarch *gets yell at for using outside help in a duel*

>also Monarch *does the same thing but slightly differently and expects anything to change*]

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

[Blitz+Fall Asleep probably would just work on everyone.]

[I have no mind, so that doesn't work on me.]

 

[Blahblah9755]

[Ok. Also why did you say nothing about Cthulhu Low-Godly?]

[Because I missed it
It can happen to me too]

[We're not mad, we're just disappointed ovo]

 

[Yobo_Blue]

[Why don't you?]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[Hl3 and Overlord: "BoRroW iS oUtSiDe HeLp"]

[**** off, it is not]

 

[Yobo_Blue]

[Why don't you have a mind?]

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

[Hl3 and Overlord: "BoRroW iS oUtSiDe HeLp"]
[**** off, it is not]

[you're getting stuff from someone outside the duel after it's started

it is oustside help]

 

[Overlord775]

[@Monarch Still totally unfair because that power is from someone else that isn't in the fight and thus outside help. I don't care if it come from a skill you have, it's still outside help because you would not have it if Blah wasn't there]

So just deal with the fact that your character sucks in 1v1 battles]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[It's a skill that is used in one on one fights in HLW. It isn't "totally unfair". It's an entirely allowed part of PvP that precedent has set as such, and you're banning it for no good reason]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[Outside help is banned in legal pvp in HLW. Combat gods punish those who attempt it. They do not punish the character HLW when he uses Borrow. Ergo, it's not outside help]

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

[If you got the stuff before hand it probably would've been fine

but you're not]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[Hardcore Leveling Warrior borrowed Sora's power in a legal PVP duel after it had started, and the combat god overseeing it did not say it was outside help, which is not allowed in legal pvp]

[What I did was entirely fine]

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

[you seem to think that combat gods = Overlord/English

besides, this isn't a JRPG dude, the rules aren't even comparable]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[It's entirely comparable. The rules are here no outside help. The rules there are no outside help. Borrow is still allowed in HLW. Therefore, it should still be allowed here. Saying otherwise is ignoring an entire aspect of my power just to nerf me for no good reason]

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

[yes

as if there aren't other, more reasonable ways Overlord could've nerfed you if he wanted

he just got you throught that one skill

definitely

in all seriousness, that doesn't make logical sense

why would getting stuff from another person after a duel ha started not be considered outside help to a normal person?]

 

[Overlord775]

[I don't care what they consider fair or not fair in that comic, I don't consider it fair to use in this tournament, so it's not allowed]

 

[PsychoWarper]

[Hey look Hl3 and Monarch are still arguing about Monarchs powers, what a surprise]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[Because I'm not "getting it from another person"]

[I'm taking it]

[The person themselves is not providing me their stats, I'm taking them]

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

[Because I'm not "getting it from another person"]
[I'm taking it]

[The person themselves is not providing me their stats, I'm taking them]

[as if thats a ******* difference]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[Oh look, people still think I break the game even after my luck was taken out. And what do they think I break the game with? The ability to use the stats of my allies. What a horrible game breaker that is. It's almost as if no one else has every grabbed other powers to cover up their weaknesses. I guess everyone is a game breaker now /s]

[That's a dumb ass reason and you know it]

[Whatever]

[I'm a lot faster than Godzilla, and I just teleported behind him and hit him point blank in the head with spatial slicing attack that also negated 50% of his already limit resistanced to spatial attacks]

[Christian's gone, but he didn't want to fight anyway, can we just say I won]

 

[Yobo_Blue]

[And so we all kill our friends with no remorse]

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

[Oh look, people still think I break the game even after my luck was taken out. And what do they think I break the game with? The ability to use the stats of my allies. What a horrible game breaker that is. It's almost as if no one else has every grabbed other powers to cover up their weaknesses. I guess everyone is a game breaker now /s]

[except you've made allies with the most powerful people here, with the possible exception of Walter]

 

[PsychoWarper]

[Because I'm not "getting it from another person"]
[I'm taking it]

[The person themselves is not providing me their stats, I'm taking them]

[as if thats a ******* difference]

[I mean whats so different between what Monarchs doing and type 8s reliant on gods?]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[as if thats a ******* difference]

[Oh look, you grabbed some worm off the ground and turned it into photon sword. Nope, outside help. I don't care if it was your ability that did it, you used something that's not part of your one on one duel.]

[Oh look, Whyr summoned a bunch of Rahkshi. Nope, outside help. I don't care if it was his power that summoned them, he used something that's not part of a one on one fight]

[Oh look, Kabus made some clones of himself. Nope, outside help. I don't care if it was his power that duplicated himself, he used something that's not part of a one on one fight]

[Your reasoning is dumb and based on bias against my character]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[I mean whats so different between what Monarchs doing and type 8s reliant on gods?]

[I have no idea what you are saying]

[I'm not immortal for one thing]

 

[Overlord775]

[@Monarch

No, that ability is not banned period, only for this tournament

Also Christian has Bowser, so there's no way in hell you're faster than him]

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

[examples 2 and 3 are examples of people getting stuff from themselves/with their own abilities, not from other ******* people

example 1 is fair

i was biased against him when he had luck that made everything else he had OP, and he's still OP]

 

[PsychoWarper]

[I mean whats so different between what Monarchs doing and type 8s reliant on gods?]

[I have no idea what you are saying]
[I'm not immortal for one thing]

[Im saying that if having type 8 immortality is not outside help then neither is what your doing,

I never said that.]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[@Overlord

[> Bowser's calc: 27,613,380,812,510,300 c, or 27 quadrillion c

[> Me: 280 quadrillion C

[Yes I'm faster than him.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[examples 2 and 3 are examples of people getting stuff from themselves/with their own abilities, not from other ******* people
example 1 is fair

i was biased against him when he had luck that made everything else he had OP, and he's still OP]

[i am getting stuff with my own abilities, the ability is called Borrow]

[Yeah, because aborping everyone's attacks on contact, accelerated development, power mimicry crap, etc etc etc isn't also totally OP you hypocrite]

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

[your getting it from other ******* people through Borrow]

 

[Yobo_Blue]

[Guess that you can't copy a abilities since they come from another person now]

 

[Torlikoff]

[Can we calm down a little bit guys? No offense, but it's getting a little too heated.]

 

[PsychoWarper]

[I mean whats so different between what Monarchs doing and type 8s reliant on gods?]

[I have no idea what you are saying]
[I'm not immortal for one thing]

[Im saying that if having type 8 immortality is not outside help then neither is what your doing,
I never said that.]

[@Monarch^^^]

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

[examples 2 and 3 are examples of people getting stuff from themselves/with their own abilities, not from other ******* people
example 1 is fair

i was biased against him when he had luck that made everything else he had OP, and he's still OP]

[i am getting stuff with my own abilities, the ability is called Borrow]
[Yeah, because aborping everyone's attacks on contact, accelerated development, power mimicry crap, etc etc etc isn't also totally broken you hypocrite]

[says the guy who had 100% guarenteed concept-level death hax and thought it was totally fine on top of being ******* unhitable]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[It's still my ability that's taking it]

[I guess that all your absorption also doesn't count because you're getting it from other people then?]

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

[this is a ******* duel

Borrow is fine outside of it, that's not what i'm arguing

what i'm arguing is you somehow not seeing that getting stuff (AKA help) from other people outside of a duel after it starts is outside help]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[says the guy who had 100% guarenteed concept-level death hax and thought it was totally fine on top of being ******* unhitable]

[First, I had no concept hax, second, I barely ever used it even in combat, third, I willingly gave that up because I was aware of it being OP]

 

[PsychoWarper]

[Does this mean none of Jill Prestos powers count since they come from The Basanos]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

[@Psycho if you're trying to say I should be able to use it, thanks, but I don't think comparing it to type 8 immortality is the best way to convince people of that]