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Emrakul, the Aeons Torn vs The God Emperor of Mankind

This is a battle of reality warping and hax, whoever is better at it will win. They both seem to be broken at mental domination and abilites like that so I will consider them equal for the purpose of this arguemnt.

Emrakul: Emrakul is a pain to categorize because we know next to nothing about what happens when the Eldrazi meet entites that are equal in power to them. We do know that the Titans passively reality warp nearby objects, however we do not know if this can be negated and if not then to what degree do the titans warp the enviroment and things around them. The only time that the titans have been defeated is the Chandra + Zendikar event but I am pretty sure everyone considers that PIS and a cheap way out of the way the titans were built up. There is the fight between Emrakul and the Gatewatch on Innistrad, however the entire fight was serving Emrakuls purpose which was to find a new hole to hide in (the moon). This pretty much comes down to: does the turn to dust effect from the titans work on the Emperor and if it does, would it kill him entirely? As in would it negate the perpetual effect that the Emperor most likley has?

Emperor: He has time stops ontop of elemental and energy manipulations. He also has clairvoyance as well as soul manipulations, however I am not sure if Emrakul ,or any of the titans for that matter, have souls to destroy, if they did I am pretty sure Emperor has it but if not then I am unsure. I would say that they do not have souls in the way that we interpret them considering that everything else about them defies human comprehension. So I would say that soul manipulation would fail. The clairvoyance might come in handy but I cannot think of anything the Emperor could do that would kill Emrakul even if he knew in advance. The Time manipulation could be the thing that wins it for the Emperor as it would give him enough time to rip the Titan apart with his powers or just physical attacks. But even then, the Titans apparently have time manipulation so even that might be counteracted.(Btw where does the time manipulation come from for the titans?)

Conclusion: I personally say that this is inconclusive until we either get more feats from Emrakul or the Horus Heresy unveils some new hax from the Emperor. I could be wrong tho, I still need to brush up on the MTG lore for the Eldrazi.
 
This would he an interesting match if The Emperor wasn't infinitely stronger lmao.

High 2-A vs 1-C to Low 1-B is a mismatch.
 
I do not think that would work considering the fact that the Chaos Gods are all capable of that and they have not killed the Emperor with it so I am pretty sure that he has a counter.
 
I think that the abilities of tier one entities should more than match the abilities of tier two entities. Also how would physics manipulation work on the Emperor?
 
CrimsonTurkey said:
I think that the abilities of tier one entities should more than match the abilities of tier two entities.
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We are using their Tier 4 forms here.
 
CrimsonTurkey said:
I think that the abilities of tier one entities should more than match the abilities of tier two entities. Also how would physics manipulation work on the Emperor?
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No, being in the same tier doesn't mean their hax are compareable.
 
No I mean that the chaos gods are tier one so that Emrakul even in her highest form should not be comparable and since the Emperor was not instantly vaporised, I think that he has a way of nullifiying that ability, probably through his own.
 
Additionally the Emperor is stated to have all 4 of the example ways to use physics manipulations so how would Emrakul be able to use her ability to kill the Emperor?
 
CrimsonTurkey said:
No I mean that the chaos gods are tier one so that Emrakul even in her highest form should not be comparable and since the Emperor was not instantly vaporised, I think that he has a way of nullifiying that ability, probably through his own.
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Why are you using tier 1s to justify a tier 4's hax resistance? If Materium Emperor really resistanced hax from tier 1s, that would be considered an outlier or it would scale to only his tier 1 form.
 
CrimsonTurkey said:
Additionally the Emperor is stated to have all 4 of the example ways to use physics manipulations so how would Emrakul be able to use her ability to kill the Emperor?
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Does the Emperor have a counter to the laws of physics/reality being manipulated?
 
BreloomFanboy said:
No, being in the same tier doesn't mean their hax are compareable.
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You literally just said this.
 
The tier 1s are an example for how the Chaos gods can't just kill the Emperor. Also does the ability to just undo what Emrakul does count as a counter, because that is what the Emperor can do.
 
BreloomFanboy said:
Ok? What does that have to do with anything? A tier 4 resisting a tier 1's hax should obviously be considered an outlier.
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I mean if you have a Hax that specifically cancels out other Hax like this guy, it works.
 
To be fair, his power was granted by Khorne - who is Tier 1 - but yes he has negated Hax on the level of Emrakul, maybe even higher.
 
Ok fair enough. But just to put a little something out there:

From what I remember, The Emperor is currently bordering the edge of death. This is due to the Horus Heresy and yada yada. The important thing to know is that the humans are keeping him alive by killing off thousands of psykers because should he actually die, all the Chaos Gods - all of them Tier 1 by the way - will flood into realspace.

Granted, my knowledge on Warhammer 40k is limited due to decades of stuff to catch up on. You should talk to Azathoth for more information about this.
 
Wait I thought we were talking about the Emperor in the pic you gave? That is prime materium Emperor while the one you are talking about is near death.
 
CrimsonTurkey said:
Wait I thought we were talking about the Emperor in the pic you gave? That is prime materium Emperor while the one you are talking about is near death.
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I was under the assumption that he needs to be alive peroid, so that the Chaos Gods don't mess shit up.
 
Wouldn't Prime Emperor and current Emperor both be Tier 4?
 
Ontop of that if you take the Golden Throne version of the Emperor, he is probably extremely strong psychically as a result of his great diet. I would say that if GT Emperor went against Emrakul he would probably win the mind battle as a result of sheer people. 10,000 a day for over 10,000 years means a lot of absorbed minds, also I am assuming the Emperor would be temporarily relived of lighthouse duty.
 
I believe this is inconclusive. Neither one has enough to put the other down in a straight up fight. Each one has similiar capabilties to counter each other. However, E-money could possibly trick Emrakul into going away to another dimension or possibly into the Warp, due to the fact that the Eldrazi don't think in a typical fashion and have been lured into traps before.
 
It depends on which Emperor we are using, prime I agree with C2 but if it is the one the OP is thinking of, I am pretty sure that the Emperor takes this via sheer psychic power.
 
Actually, which one would be more fair, Prime Emperor, or current Emperor?
 
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